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DAY 2 CURRENT VOTE TALLY:

Xbro & Karkador (2)
Verelios 1752 1761
Sawneeks 1861
flatearthpandas 1940

Trigger & Ty4on (2)
Nomadic Sparks 1707
Natiko 1933

Darryl & nin1000 (1)
CrimsonFist 1676
Ourobolus 1727 1876
Sorian 1831 1937

kitsunelaine & flatearthpandas (1)
Ty4on 1893

Muffin1611 & Samuraischnecke (1)
Ourobolus 1876

franconp & Dr. Worm (1)
Sorian 1821 1831
Xbro 1897

StarSketch & CzarTim (1)
Sorian 1937

Verelios & WhereAreMahDragonz (1)
Sophia 1871

Ourobolus & kingkitty (0): flatearthpandas 1877 1940

CrimsonFist & Sophia (0): Natiko 1697 1723

No active vote for Day 2: CzarTim, Darryl, Dr. Worm, franconp, Karkador, kingkitty, kitsunelaine, Muffin1611, nin1000, Royal_Flush, Samuraischnecke, StarSketch, Trigger, TsuXna, Verelios (has previously voted), WhereAreMahDragonz

Day 2 Postcount: CrimsonFist 13, CzarTim 6, Darryl 8, Dr. Worm 17, flatearthpandas 8, franconp 21, Karkador 14, kingkitty 10, kitsunelaine 2, Muffin1611 37, Natiko 18, nin1000 11, Nomadic Sparks 9, Ourobolus 29, Royal_Flush 17, Samuraischnecke 3, Sawneeks 15, Sophia 24, Sorian 31, StarSketch 1, Trigger 3, TsuXna 1, Ty4on 54, Verelios 18, WhereAreMahDragonz 8, Xbro 15


Day 2 ends:

Automated vote tally here

14 votes for majority

 

[Sorian]

He means the site that hosts the Mafia Championship. Gafia Universe or something...?

BRB while I look some shit up, my gut's being suspicious.

It would be helpful if your gut talked to us at all since I still couldn't extract much from Tim either.

Honest question, is your chat any more active than thread presence?

 

[StarSketch]

It would be helpful if your gut talked to us at all since I still couldn't extract much from Tim either.

Honest question, is your chat any more active than thread presence?

Nope. I think both of us are at a loss right now TBH.

I can say what I'm doing though:

I RNG'D a team to look over their posts and got Dr. Franconp.

I'm gonna look at over and see what I find...and if it's nothing maybe I'll try a more controverisal team instead of leaving it to the luck of the draw >>

 

[Darryl]

Shit, rather vote Kark than Orb.

VOTE: Xbro

This is just vote placement politics. Your behavior really fits the pattern of someone who is trying to keep themselves shielded from scrutiny by acting in a way that's incredibly justifiable.

Like it's really easy for you to justify having placed the vote on #1619 because you already did so on vote #1504 It's easy for you to open the day with this deeply nuanced read because you already tried to have me lynched the night before.

I dunno, I just don't really buy your reasoning here. I don't buy that Kark really deserved to be lynched because of that line of argument. I don't buy that what he did was so horrible that you had to change your vote with a minute left on the clock, especially when your line of arguing against me that caused you to change that vote was so flimsy, yet you still decide to loop back around with a really weak argument that imo, feels like you never really tried to understand the material itself to begin with.

It's like you've latched onto the narrative and decided to hammer on us because it feels like you can get away with it. You're making all of these really specious arguments because you know no one will call you on it.

 

[Darryl]

I like Ty4on and Natiko's exchange. It feels genuine from both sides. I lean town on both of them. Sawneeks is coming in hot.

 

[Sorian]

Nope. I think both of us are at a loss right now TBH.

I can say what I'm doing though:

I RNG'D a team to look over their posts and got Dr. Franconp.

I'm gonna look at over and see what I find...and if it's nothing maybe I'll try a more controverisal team instead of leaving it to the luck of the draw >>

So wait, is your gut suspicious if something unrelated to your RNG of fran and Worm?

 

[Natiko]

So wait, is your gut suspicious if something unrelated to your RNG of fran and Worm?

Glad I read ahead, was just about to question this as well.

 

[StarSketch]

So wait, is your gut suspicious if something unrelated to your RNG of fran and Worm?

It was of Kark but I looked him over and came up with pretty much nothing because I misunderstood the situation on D1 with him being absent.

 

[Sorian]

I'm trying to find the thread here for the logic. What was the initial suspicion? Even if the memory was wrong, what made you say something?

This isn't odd play for you but I want something to follow.

 

[StarSketch]

I'm trying to find the thread here for the logic. What was the initial suspicion? Even if the memory was wrong, what made you say something?

This isn't odd play for you but I want something to follow.

"Why the hell is he latching onto something that was public information? Either Kark doesn't pay attention to the goings on in the Gafia community or he's trying to make random shit stick bc scum or something"

 

[Sorian]

Star, what are your thoughts on KK/Ouro? I don't need a deep dive, just maybe thoughts from the last page or two.

 

[StarSketch]

Star, what are your thoughts on KK/Ouro? I don't need a deep dive, just maybe thoughts from the last page or two.

Based on pretty much only the last page:

Barely contributing, wondering about muffin complaining about Ouro getting carried.

 

[Sorian]

Based on pretty much only the last page:

Barely contributing, wondering about muffin complaining about Ouro getting carried.

Did I miss Muffin saying the same thing as me? I told Ouro that he was getting carried.

 

[StarSketch]

Did I miss Muffin saying the same thing as me? I told Ouro that he was getting carried.

-backreads-

Purple anime avatars. I'm clearly blind.

 

[Royal_Flush]

hey R_F

you described the vote yesterday as a "shitshow," yeah



and this was your vote on D1, right

do you or did you think Kark is scum, why or why not

D1 are always pretty weak because unless there is a major fuck-up by Scum there just isn't much to go on. Based on there performance I thought there was a decent chance that Kark and Xbro were Scum. I'd say slight Scum lean. However, even if I was wrong there wouldn't have been much lost because, again, their contributions yesterday amount to approximately Null. I'd say it was at least as much a policy vote as a scumread vote.

There also haven't been any better alternatives. I had a slight town read on Orb, I liked FEP's contributions (plus I don't think I even identified that there could form a train on them in the moment) and I don't think Darryl is a good D1 lynch; he can be very useful to Town in his better moments. I don't think there were any other trains.

Today they played better to the point where I'm reading them more like Null again.

 

[kitsunelaine]

Okie dokie! This is my read on franconp. and their bedbuddy Dr. Worm. I said there would be a read today, and dangit, I'm going to deliver!

Dr Worm's first post is voting for their partner. Cute, but easy, and strange. Maybe they've got a hate pairing? Or maybe they planned it in advance? Side-eying here.

Dr. Worm says "Shitposts are scumtells" right after shitpost voting for their partner. Maybe this is a SEKRET ADMISHUN.

Dr. Worm gets voted against. Immediately calls person who is voting against them town, as a joke. Could be some kind of attempt at garnering adoration? Side-eye.

Franconp enters the stage! Classic big Francorp read, trying to get on top of the game. Love it. Joke-responds to Dr. Worm for their vote against him. Makes me wonder what the point of it was in the first place. Spectacle? Playfulness? Little side-eye. Says his partner is "tasked with shitposting while I do the scum-hunting". So one side is concerned with PR and the other is concerned with data? Hmm. Sounds coordinated. A little side-eye here. Why can't both sides(tm) scum hunt? Isn't that the overall objective? Why is Dr. Worm trying to make a nice face for the pairing? Side-eye indeed.

Mentions it's rational for lovers to be super in contact. So was Dr. Worm's vote against their own partner planned, then, by that logic? If so, to what end?

Loverboy Dr. Worm posting a gif in response to people talking about shitposting. Lots of flash, no substance. Y'all really want your dudefriend to do all the work for you so you can just coast along? Hmmm.

Fran makes another anti-shitposting statement while their own lover has done nothing but shitpost all D1 so far. You think by this point, if fran were in as much contact with their partner that they expect everyone else to be, that they'd have gone over how bad it is to shitpost by now?

Fran mentions people who haven't checked in and mocks people who have posted barely nothing, while neglecting to include their partner in that assesment. So what has your partner done up til this point that voids them from not having posted anything of substance? Hrm. There's so much cognitive dissonance this early on, and Fran is triyng to control discussion. Massive side-eye.

It was at this point where I had to just double check and confirm that yes, Fran AND Dr. Worm are partners and supposed to be collaborating with one another. And they are. Because people had begun reading Dr. Worm as suspicious, but hadn't even noticed the complete and total disparity between the way both sides of this pairing were acting.

At this point I'm going to avoid beating on the same dead horse as I expect it to repeat throughout D1, and instead looking for other things of substance here. Suffice it to say at this point I'm soft-leaning scum.

Fran gets lowkey defensive about being called out for being suspicious.

Dr. Worm contributing nothing once again, and not a peep from Franconp despite fran constantly berrating others for posting nothing of substance.

Worm FINALLY contributes something of value. Why now of all times? They seemed perfectly fine to shitpost until something about this vote and conversation grinded their gears.

Dr. Worm going in on Ty4on for whatever reason.

Franconp going to town on some unsuspecting soul. Definitely trying to be a driving force.

Dr. Worm saying "scum would want validation more than town". Is that why you were trying to lay low and cultivate an image? What I find curious here is that Dr. Worm talks about "driving that home" during my "spat" with WAMD, but Dr. Worm literally contributed nothing in that entire thing. So why does he think that he contributed? Was he coaching franconp? Were they C O L L U D I N G?

"There isn't much to analize" - Francorp 2017. Naughty. But it's funny how he's accusing others of trying too hard when he's been doing that for the entirety of what I've been reading so far.

It's at this point where I noticed Dr. Worm hasn't been shitposting nearly as much as they were, and are actively commenting on the day's affairs. Good! Gold stars. Seems like a weird behavioural shift though.

Okay my eyes are glazing over, and this is only like halfway through D1. And it's already this long! I'm going to save you a wall of text and stop it here... for now.

So yeah. Scumread on Franconp. I don't like the way he carries himself one bit. Seems way to aggressive for town.

Vote: Franconp

 

[Sorian]

That was a long post to finally just scum read fran for playing the way he usually does. I followed some of those links and I don't really see much wrong with his side of the boat. I do have issue with Worm for nit picks here and there (the role fishing, the shit posting when I seem to remember him in.....Dangan ronpa? Zelda? Some game I played with him where he was more motivated).

I'm more poking at this read because that very much seemed like a busy work post.

 

[kitsunelaine]

That was a long post to finally just scum read fran for playing the way he usually does. I followed some of those links and I don't really see much wrong with his side of the boat. I do have issue with Worm for nit picks here and there (the role fishing, the shit posting when I seem to remember him in.....Dangan ronpa? Zelda? Some game I played with him where he was more motivated).

I'm more poking at this read because that very much seemed like a busy work post.

That's because it is! I said I'd read today, and i read. I was trying to read, so I read, and people berated me for my prior read not being assertive. More reads tomorrow! Probably. Either way, seems very scummy to me, for reasons I explained in the read post.

 

[Sorian]

It's scummy that you are reading for the sake of keeping a promise and not to actually scum hunt.

Was there a reason this read happened on fran and Worm? I don't remember if you chose that or if someone asked you thoughts on them?

 

[kitsunelaine]

It's scummy that you are reading for the sake of keeping a promise and not to actually scum hunt.

Was there a reason this read happened on fran and Worm? I don't remember if you chose that or if someone asked you thoughts on them?

I'm keeping a promise to be active in a game that I'm struggling to follow. It's a meta promise, not an ingame promise.

 

[kitsunelaine]

Also I just picked it entirely at random, if you must know.

 

[Sorian]

So two people chose the fran team entirely at random for a deep dive read?

 

[kitsunelaine]

So two people chose the fran team entirely at random for a deep dive read?

What? Someone else did a deep dive read of Fran...?

 

[kitsunelaine]

i guess i really should have read the last few pages before picking, huh

 

[Verelios]

Also I just picked it entirely at random, if you must know.

Wait...do you do this usually? Just pick a random person and deep dive for anything scummy? Because that seems like you're going in with a preconceived notion.

 

[Sorian]

What? Someone else did a deep dive read of Fran...?

Apparently though I'm skeptical anything will come of it:

Nope. I think both of us are at a loss right now TBH.

I can say what I'm doing though:

I RNG'D a team to look over their posts and got Dr. Franconp.

I'm gonna look at over and see what I find...and if it's nothing maybe I'll try a more controverisal team instead of leaving it to the luck of the draw >>

Also, +1 to the post above me.

 

[Verelios]

One of the few things that Saw and I agreed on completely after her read since she isn't up for the easy town pass I gave Crimson and Sophia too.

Even quoting back to that, I don't see scum making those posts especially two newbies.

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I disagree, that kind of overcompensation is exactly what I'd expect from new scum trying to contribute. It's not so much whether they're being helpful but what vector their help is directed to, whether general or focused.

Going to poke that use of the word "pure" again since KK is now trying to link the two of us together (I think KK, my phone didn't grab the quote) and is saying if one is scum the other probably is too. Sounds like someone who knows the answer and is trying to link a scum flip to a mislynch.

The word pure is kind of an innocuous connection to make, yeah. I only vaguely remember Pokemon Mafia having coded words but that seems kind of detrimental when it's something that stands out like that.

 

[Sorian]

New people tend to blow every little thing they say out of proportion. Translate that to scum and you have them rereading every little thing they say and seeing all the faults and tells in it. A large majority of the time, that mind set doesn't call out a reads list that went ignored with a "notice me senpai!" especially such an average post at that.

 

[CrimsonFist]

I'm leaning town on team Muffin, but I don't see much in those comments specifically, seems like an easy enough thing for scum to post.

Wait...do you do this usually? Just pick a random person and deep dive for anything scummy? Because that seems like you're going in with a preconceived notion.

Preconceived notion would be how I'd read a lot of those points against Dr. Fran as coming about, especially with it only being based on early day 1 too.

 

[Ty4on]

One of the few things that Saw and I agreed on completely after her read since she isn't up for the easy town pass I gave Crimson and Sophia too.

Even quoting back to that, I don't see scum making those posts especially two newbies.

What is the town pass you gave Crimson and Sophia? I can't remember that popping up.

Going to poke that use of the word "pure" again since KK is now trying to link the two of us together (I think KK, my phone didn't grab the quote) and is saying if one is scum the other probably is too. Sounds like someone who knows the answer and is trying to link a scum flip to a mislynch.

So you are scum 🤔

 

[franconp]

Nope. I think both of us are at a loss right now TBH.

I can say what I'm doing though:

I RNG'D a team to look over their posts and got Dr. Franconp.

I'm gonna look at over and see what I find...and if it's nothing maybe I'll try a more controverisal team instead of leaving it to the luck of the draw >>

I find it funny that you try to say it's RNG when the first post of your partner is saying that I'm scum because of some faulty meta read, even when we only played 2 games together (Danganronpa 1 and Zelda) and in both I was NK the first night so nothing much to work there.

Okie dokie! This is my read on franconp. and their bedbuddy Dr. Worm. I said there would be a read today, and dangit, I'm going to deliver!

Dr Worm's first post is voting for their partner. Cute, but easy, and strange. Maybe they've got a hate pairing? Or maybe they planned it in advance? Side-eying here.

Dr. Worm says "Shitposts are scumtells" right after shitpost voting for their partner. Maybe this is a SEKRET ADMISHUN.

Dr. Worm gets voted against. Immediately calls person who is voting against them town, as a joke. Could be some kind of attempt at garnering adoration? Side-eye.

Franconp enters the stage! Classic big Francorp read, trying to get on top of the game. Love it. Joke-responds to Dr. Worm for their vote against him. Makes me wonder what the point of it was in the first place. Spectacle? Playfulness? Little side-eye. Says his partner is "tasked with shitposting while I do the scum-hunting". So one side is concerned with PR and the other is concerned with data? Hmm. Sounds coordinated. A little side-eye here. Why can't both sides(tm) scum hunt? Isn't that the overall objective? Why is Dr. Worm trying to make a nice face for the pairing? Side-eye indeed.

Mentions it's rational for lovers to be super in contact. So was Dr. Worm's vote against their own partner planned, then, by that logic? If so, to what end?

Loverboy Dr. Worm posting a gif in response to people talking about shitposting. Lots of flash, no substance. Y'all really want your dudefriend to do all the work for you so you can just coast along? Hmmm.

Fran makes another anti-shitposting statement while their own lover has done nothing but shitpost all D1 so far. You think by this point, if fran were in as much contact with their partner that they expect everyone else to be, that they'd have gone over how bad it is to shitpost by now?

Fran mentions people who haven't checked in and mocks people who have posted barely nothing, while neglecting to include their partner in that assesment. So what has your partner done up til this point that voids them from not having posted anything of substance? Hrm. There's so much cognitive dissonance this early on, and Fran is triyng to control discussion. Massive side-eye.

It was at this point where I had to just double check and confirm that yes, Fran AND Dr. Worm are partners and supposed to be collaborating with one another. And they are. Because people had begun reading Dr. Worm as suspicious, but hadn't even noticed the complete and total disparity between the way both sides of this pairing were acting.

At this point I'm going to avoid beating on the same dead horse as I expect it to repeat throughout D1, and instead looking for other things of substance here. Suffice it to say at this point I'm soft-leaning scum.

Fran gets lowkey defensive about being called out for being suspicious.

Dr. Worm contributing nothing once again, and not a peep from Franconp despite fran constantly berrating others for posting nothing of substance.

Worm FINALLY contributes something of value. Why now of all times? They seemed perfectly fine to shitpost until something about this vote and conversation grinded their gears.

Dr. Worm going in on Ty4on for whatever reason.

Franconp going to town on some unsuspecting soul. Definitely trying to be a driving force.

Dr. Worm saying "scum would want validation more than town". Is that why you were trying to lay low and cultivate an image? What I find curious here is that Dr. Worm talks about "driving that home" during my "spat" with WAMD, but Dr. Worm literally contributed nothing in that entire thing. So why does he think that he contributed? Was he coaching franconp? Were they C O L L U D I N G?

"There isn't much to analize" - Francorp 2017. Naughty. But it's funny how he's accusing others of trying too hard when he's been doing that for the entirety of what I've been reading so far.

It's at this point where I noticed Dr. Worm hasn't been shitposting nearly as much as they were, and are actively commenting on the day's affairs. Good! Gold stars. Seems like a weird behavioural shift though.

Okay my eyes are glazing over, and this is only like halfway through D1. And it's already this long! I'm going to save you a wall of text and stop it here... for now.

So yeah. Scumread on Franconp. I don't like the way he carries himself one bit. Seems way to aggressive for town.

Vote: Franconp

So you just analized a couple of post at random and decided that we are scum? Because I'm too aggressive? Didn't we just played Just Mafia together?

Also, if you want to know, we talked with Worm before the game started but I wasn't around for the first 4 hours of the game so the vote was only Worm's idea and I asked him to stop shitposting in our chat as the game was past that stage.

I also love it that you said that Worm stopped shitposting and contributing and you suddenly decided to stop the deep read at that point, like you couldn't find anything else.

 

[CrimsonFist]

What is the town pass you gave Crimson and Sophia? I can't remember that popping up.


So you are scum 🤔

I thought Sorian just light town read us early day 1.

That other quote is interesting, do you think Ty is scum then Sorian?

 

[Sorian]

What is the town pass you gave Crimson and Sophia? I can't remember that popping up.


So you are scum 🤔

Crimson took that "obvious town" role early day 1. While he didn't keep up with it, I passed on him and Sophia then and they haven't really done anything scummy to me since then so I still have them on the back burner.

And no, while I still don't have much solid with you, I wouldn't be surprised to find out that you're scum which would be a huge tell on Kitty there.

 

[Sorian]

Could have quoted you too Crimson but just grabbed the first one, same answers and such

 

[franconp]

Kitsune maybe you should check with your partner:

My reads so far. Realizing they're pretty sad. No particular order

Leaning town:
5. [m] TsuXna & [m] Royal_Flush - royal pulling all the weight but good contributions imo. Of course I've only played against scum total once and it was a Christmas miracle we caught him
1. [m] Muffin1611 & [f] Samuraischnecke - i did notice Sam's readlist and found it a decent effort, while muffin has been putting in solid work today. Feel good about you two overall
8. [m] Trigger & [m] Ty4on - ty pulling the weight here but haven't been triggered by his partner
6. [m] franconp & [m] Dr. Worm - i Thought Fran has doing pretty well yesterday while i like worm today. Adds up to a good team for me

Null:
15. [-] Darryl & [m] nin1000 - liking Darryl but not much there
3. [m] Fat4all & [m] Sorian - i feel like i can't even remember anything fat has said but sorian has been decent
14. [f] StarSketch & [m] SexyFish - nothing much. 65% null
13. [m] Orb & [m] TheWorthyEdge - need to look reread both
11. [m] Verelios & [f] WhereAreMahDragonz - i like vere okay and don't particularly like it dislike dragonz. Will look into the orb angle next. Actually, i like that dragonz is bringing up new shit. This may be my towniest null
2. [m] TheExodu5 & [m] Fireblend - fire i liked more early on but don't dislike now. Nothing on exo.
4. [m] CrimsonFist & [f] Sophia - this is the team i worry about the most, but not necessarily that i find scummy. I wish i had better reads on Sophia, but crimson has been okay
7. [m] Xbro & [m] Karkador - not much. Want more from kark still


Leaning scum:
12. [m] Ourobolus & [m] kingkitty - ouro is purposefully vague and unhelpful. Kitty is perpetually promising opinions that never seen to materialize. I wish either one could manufacture some solid opinions
10. [m] Natiko & [m] Nomadic Sparks - natiko is solid. Nomad is all over. I feel like natiko is reigning his partner in a bit. I was criticized for not going to bar for kits but whatever opinions she earned from her exchange, she earned. I know she's town and don't mind her proving it without me swooping in. I'd like to see nomad fend for himself a bit.

Unvote

Note that this was way after the poor deep read that you made.

Also, FEP did this read list changed in any way during D2 so far?

 

[Sorian]

Kitsune maybe you should check with your partner:



Note that this was way after the poor deep read that you made.

Also, FEP did this read list changed in any way during D2 so far?

While I think Kitsune's read was junk, what does checking with FEP have to do with anything? It's not like oartner's have to agree.

 

[franconp]

While I think Kitsune's read was junk, what does checking with FEP have to do with anything? It's not like oartner's have to agree.

This will get kinda meta but if there is one player here that should know that I usually play aggressive is FEP (another would be NIN) as I went really hard on him during Persona.

He knows that I play aggressively and now his partner is accusing me of being scum for that. I would expect a newbie or semi newbie as Kitsune to check with their partner in their chat but this did seems as they didn't checked at all.

 

[CrimsonFist]

This will get kinda meta but if there is one player here that should know that I usually play aggressive is FEP (another would be NIN) as I went really hard on him during Persona.

He knows that I play aggressively and now his partner is accusing me of being scum for that. I would expect a newbie or semi newbie as Kitsune to check with their partner in their chat but this did seems as they didn't checked at all.

Different players will use private chats to different degrees, I don't expect everyone to bounce every idea off their partners before posting it in the thread.

Looking back through FEP's thoughts on them though, I get the impression that they are using it, or at least FEP talked about the benefits of bouncing idea off your partner, and went after TWE for not using theirs for certain thoughts.

 

[CrimsonFist]

FEP hasn't posted in this thread recently, so probably wasn't around anyway.

 

[nin1000]

I like Ty4on and Natiko's exchange. It feels genuine from both sides. I lean town on both of them. Sawneeks is coming in hot.

Put down fireblend as a lean aswell.

 

[CrimsonFist]

Put down fireblend as a lean aswell.

:/

 

[Ty4on]

Oh Nin

I like Ty4on and Natiko's exchange. It feels genuine from both sides. I lean town on both of them. Sawneeks is coming in hot.

Anything specific you liked from Natiko?

Looking back through FEP's thoughts on them though, I get the impression that they are using it, or at least FEP talked about the benefits of bouncing idea off your partner, and went after TWE for not using theirs for certain thoughts.

Do you know of any examples where they seemed to use their chat?

 

[CrimsonFist]

Oh Nin

Anything specific you liked from Natiko?

Do you know of any examples where they seemed to use their chat?

I can't think of anything that makes me think for certain that they're using it, although I mostly just looked back at the meta discussion of the use of chats. If they're town I would assume that their thoughts on the topic would line up with chat usage.

 

[Ty4on]

I can't think of anything that makes me think for certain that they're using it, although I mostly just looked back at the meta discussion of the use of chats. If they're town I would assume that their thoughts on the topic would line up with chat usage.

That angle might be worth pursuing.

One thing bothering me is they seem disconnected. Nothing wrong with disagreeing with your partner, but they seem to accidentally disagree like they've never really discussed any reads in the chat.

 

[Sorian]

I have Fire as a scum lean.

Spoiler

Not sorry for being late to that joke.

 

[nin1000]

That angle might be worth pursuing.

One thing bothering me is they seem disconnected. Nothing wrong with disagreeing with your partner, but they seem to accidentally disagree like they've never really discussed any reads in the chat.

Well we are different timezones and we don't really use the chat that much, that's why I will come in say something or agree with Daryll. Nothing wrong with that in my eyes.

 

[nin1000]

This will get kinda meta but if there is one player here that should know that I usually play aggressive is FEP (another would be NIN) as I went really hard on him during Persona.

He knows that I play aggressively and now his partner is accusing me of being scum for that. I would expect a newbie or semi newbie as Kitsune to check with their partner in their chat but this did seems as they didn't checked at all.

The way you play is just the way I am used to it being. Hell you even said it yourself that you like to shout and throw shit at the well and see what sticks. Those who are not used to it will think that it's aggressive.
Being aggressive does not mean that you are scum thought.
There lies the problem thought.
Not a fan of meta but if you play agressive for most of the time and then for example stop, would imply that you are either having a pr or are scum it whatever you want to think.
A good player just stays the same in order not to grow any attention to himself because of his changing behaviour throughout games.

Tldr.
Null

 

[franconp]

The way you play is just the way I am used to it being. Hell you even said it yourself that you like to shout and throw shit at the well and see what sticks. Those who are not used to it will think that it's aggressive.
Being aggressive does not mean that you are scum thought.
There lies the problem thought.
Not a fan of meta but if you play agressive for most of the time and then for example stop, would imply that you are either having a pr or are scum it whatever you want to think.
A good player just stays the same in order not to grow any attention to himself because of his changing behaviour throughout games.

Tldr.
Null

That is my problem with the read. Fep knows that I usually play that way and find it hard to believe that a newbie wouldn't ask for opinions of his partner in their scum chat.

 

[franconp]

*Own chat.

 

[Natiko]

I can't be the only one that thought it was odd that kit spent the first half of that read expecting Fran to openly criticize their partner who's alignment Fran would obviously know, right?