Nekketsu Kõha
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Kinect aye.
But I think we will notice the change in leadership and priorities in 2018 starting with the release of the new Xbox this year as it all comes to fruition. Things takes time.
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Microsoft needs more exclusives throughout the year
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But I think we will notice the change in leadership and priorities in 2018 starting with the release of the new Xbox this year as it all comes to fruition. Things takes time.
I've come to realize Xbox just isn't for me anymore so this is the first gen I'm skipping on Xbox. I was pretty hyped for their future back in 2014 with Phil Spencer leading and they announced quite a few titles I was interested with Scalebound, Crackdown 3, and the Phantom Dust reboot. It's only been disappointment for me since then. Scalebound was cancelled, Phantom Dust was put on hold?, Crackdown 3 just isn't looking too good imo, and I'm far from impressed with how their lineup looks right now. From their currently announced games, I'm only looking forward to Cuphead and the sequel to Ori.
I think what's really setting the PS4 lineup apart from the XB1's lineup for me are the Japanese games I can't get on Xbox. I remember the OG Xbox and 360 having some decent Japanese support. I miss games like Ninja Gaiden Black on Xbox.
I think what's really setting the PS4 lineup apart from the XB1's lineup for me are the Japanese games I can't get on Xbox. I remember the OG Xbox and 360 having some decent Japanese support. I miss games like Ninja Gaiden Black on Xbox.
LordBaztion
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To be fair, During the launch of the X1, Mattrick greenlighted more unique games than Phill since he took the lead.
That's another point entirely. If we're talking about combos that include PC then the Xbone basically becomes redundant.
Haha, I don't say "we" for one. You're certainly not aiming for quality neither
OrbitalBeard
Member
And a valid point.
Of course it's valid, but not what we're talking about.
Are we still talking about combos that include PC or do you want to move goal posts? It's your choice.
Triggerhappytel
Member
Mattrick didn't wreck their first-party devs. They had a healthy line-up of developers as recently as about 4-5 years ago. If you want to run with blaming Mattrick then Spencer now holds the same position that he used to, so should he share the blame too?
You pick. I am just following your lead.
That1BlackGuy
Member
Doesn't matter when they release their exclusives, as this generation has proven for most of their efforts, particularly their new IP and second party games, they are going to sell below expectations anyway. Doesn't make sense to throw good money after bad and Microsoft has seemingly caught on to that.
Don't forget that that's what's Spencer's job was before he took over for mattrick. He was in charge of first party.
Nekketsu Kõha
Banned
Now I'm confused. Am I allowed to bring up PC again or not?
It is so difficult to keep track of all these arbitrary rules they come up with.
So they are behind both PS4 and Switch
https://www.finder.com.au/2017-exclusives-comparison-ps4-xbox-one-switch
https://www.finder.com.au/2017-exclusives-comparison-ps4-xbox-one-switch
Hahah Oh you! Well if you're going to follow my lead then answer the question straight.
Which combo that includes PC gives you the higher amount of games to pick from? The combos are the following in case you try to deviate yet again.
PC/Switch/Xbone or PC/Switch/PS4
Nekketsu Kõha;245840448 said:
Well, I concur. He changed the goal posts by bringing in finances and "realistic" to the subject. Not sure how finances are an issue if one can buy a PS Pro a gaming PC and a Nintendo Switch.
I need a calendar for all these changes.
In sheer numbers, PC/Switch/PSbore
Ahh good boy! For a moment there I thought you worked for congress.
Jaded Alyx
Member
Uh... That list is.... Bizarre. No More Heroes 3? Pikmin 4? 2017??
But that isn't what is best for everyone.
I don't get why posters on here talk about almost how they're shafting MS by not buying an Xbox and playing the Xbox exclusives on PC, like they're almost getting one up on them.
Yeah, you enjoy playing your Xbox exclusives on a Microsoft operating system purchased through a Microsoft ecosystem.
That's the whole point of the initiative.
Yeah, you enjoy playing your Xbox exclusives on a Microsoft operating system purchased through a Microsoft ecosystem.
That's the whole point of the initiative.
10/10.
11/10
They sell below expectations because majority of their exclusives have been half assed efforts
Recore
Quantum Break
Ryse
Dead Rising 3 and 4
even Halo 5
The one that did sell well was Ori, rightfully so as it was their best game released this gen
The one good one that did not sell well was Sunset Overdrive and low and behold it was stuffed into a packed 4th quarter with known and popular 3rd party games releasing back to back
The takeaway is MS needs to make great games and then spread them out into the first three quarters of the year, away from the holiday rush
It would be best for those who are choosing between Xbone and PS4 and already own a gaming PC. I'm getting dizzy with all this going in circles.
If you want to remove PC out of the equation just say so.
Indeed. Which of course is a small footprint, but I agree nonetheless. Break time?
Flawed list that would cut half of those Switch games out as neither Metroid, Pikmin, Yoshi, Kirby etc are releasing on 2017. They are all 2018 and beyond
Plus games like Detroit, Days Gone are 2018 as well
Biased list against Xbox
Nekketsu Kõha
Banned
Dead rising 3 was great. Never understood the hate that game gets. Fun sandbox. Way better than anything by naughty dog.
in my opinion.
If you already own a gaming PC then better go with a Switch and skip out on the rest. Take that money and invest into games instead or upgrades and accessories.It would be best for those who are choosing between Xbone and PS4 and already own a gaming PC. I'm getting dizzy with all this going in circles.
If you want to remove PC out of the equation just say so.
OrbitalBeard
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It's a weird list, but I wouldn't call it biased. State of Decay 2, Sea of Thieves, and Ori and the Will of the Wisps, all 2018 titles, are featured in the Xbox exclusives section.
It was under Don Matrricks leadership that investments shifted to Project Natal/Kinect and studios like Ensemble were shut down for explicitly no reason. If there is a reason why the Xbox Brand is struggling, it's because of Don Mattrick,
And his boss was *Drum Roll* ...
Don Mattrick.
Mass Effect
Member
Yes they do, but honestly it's not a big deal for me anymore. It makes it easier to keep up with their games since I have less and less time for games.
As it stands now I can easily pick up 1 or 2 MS exclusives a year on PC in between all the other games on Steam and other systems.
As it stands now I can easily pick up 1 or 2 MS exclusives a year on PC in between all the other games on Steam and other systems.
Huge Succeeded
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RichiRamjag
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Nekketsu Kõha;245825278 said:
I always keep a gaming pc handy, but I mainly use it as my home theater PC. I used to game on PC a lot, but I just don't much anymore even though I should. I'm fairly certain I'll jump back in soon though.
True, those should be removed as well
OrbitalBeard
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I think it's more of a "Games announced as of 2017" rather than a "Full list of exclusives in 2017" list. It's not worded very well in the article.
pixellated_man
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Why do people keep on saying this? Of course games on multiple platforms will generally sell more than ones that are exclusive to just one console. We should be comparing single skus of multis with exclusives on the same console. With this much fairer comparison we can say PS4 exclusives have done very well this generation when compared to the multi platform releases on PS4. Horizon zero dawn, crash n sane trilogy and Uncharted 4 have sold more than most of the third party multis on PS4. Likewise Nintendo exclusive games sell comparable to some of the best selling multis on any single platform.
staticneuron
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It's a gaming forum. The both statements are correct but only because you left out a qualifier in the second one. "Gaming" PC's, are not as numerous as PC's in general. PC's obviously vastly outnumber consoles. And the games that are the most successful on PC have Very low requirements so people can play without spending money on gaming rig.
EDIT: Nice edit. Maybe you caught what was wrong with the original idea you were putting forward. Since you edit it I will also answer the edit as well. It is because the permutations cannot all be true. It is either one or the other. PC's are used for various things not just gaming, so the sheer amount of PC's in use doesn't automatically dictate how dominant they are, but, consoles are dedicated gaming devices. Of course some will not use consoles in that fashion but most will. If PC's were more successful we would see more ports from PC instead of the other way around.
NintendosBooger
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Nekketsu Kõha;245839706 said:
It's not enough they just release new games.
They need to understand that their IPs, much like Sony's, are perishable gen-to-gen, with exceptions like Minecraft and Gran Turismo which are industry mainstays. Practically everything else is subject to commercial fatigue, and just because they'll produce a breakthrough hit like Ori or Horizon doesn't permit them to become dependent upon their sequels come the next generation. It's a never-ending grind where they must continuously churn out original IPs regardless of the present-day success of the established franchises.
Nekketsu Kõha
Banned
Point is reducing things to lists isn't really serving a point beyond list wars.
We have to look at entire package, costs and services as well. If someone has an Xbox I don't think they care if PUBG is also released on PC. If someone has an Xbox they might not see a point of a PlayStation and If they were going to combo anything they would rather go with a Switch first for instance.
Maybe someone just prefers Xbox live and that is the most important feature. Or playing 4k bluray as well as game.
In the end with PC where it is at it needs to be included in the discussion between the Xbox and PlayStation for couch gaming as well. Most 3rd party release on PC now.
Banjo-Kazooie
Member
Whatever that is the first thing I saw was Ace Combat 7 listed as PS4 exclusive. Closed out of it after that lol
Nekketsu Kõha
Banned
Absolutely, no argument there.
Nekketsu Kõha
Banned
For sure and of course many may feel that way, no idea how many.
Jeff Freecss
Member
This is just ridiculous. Are we serious comparing Switch with Xbox One here? Cobsidering Xbox One has currently at least 10 times more games than Switch, it's meaningless to judge these two platforms on exclusives alone.
LegendofDragoonLives
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Sony is still pumping out a shit ton of games, more than its competition every single generation in terms of exclusives. And I don't hear anyone "blaming x person for lack of games" for Sony/Nintendo unlike the garbage it's all Mattrick's fault spiel we constantly see when his replacement has been garbage on this particular end as well.
Do we know that Phil was against strong focus on games which other than BC, he's done fuck all to ensure anyone that it's being given much thought of. Xbox One has had probably the most pitiful library after the Wii U from a console that I can remember, and 3rd party is the only thing keeping it at the bottom of the barrel. Been around 4 years since he took over and the new E3 conference is closed out by a 3rd party game that isn't even an exclusive.
Are you guys even living in the real world lol? You're complaining about one boss fucking up when it comes to games while praising the guy that's been there for years that has done nothing to prove that he's great at this aspect. He's literally done the opposite with closing studios and shutting down games while replacing them with .. timed exclusive indies.
You can't be discounted for having an opinion, we can leave it a that.
LegendofDragoonLives
Member
Passive aggressive statements that say absolutely nothing because you don't have an actual argument are nice to read like this one.
Nekketsu Kõha
Banned
I didn't read his post as passive aggressive. You on the other hand with lots of "garbage" this "fuck that" lol
By the way does Sony release more exclusives than Nintendo? PC? Mobile?