did the PSBore comment not show you the fanboy stance the poster is on?
Just move on my friend, its not worth the time.
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Microsoft needs more exclusives throughout the year
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did the PSBore comment not show you the fanboy stance the poster is on?
Just move on my friend, its not worth the time.
catashtrophe
Member
MS need to do something drastic coz the number of exclusive releases they drop in the console space is appaling
I am surprised PBbore "triggered" you, but Xbone didn't. I think we all know your stance. Kettle....
The problem is they did that last gen and part of the reason for where they are at now. Sony supported the ps3 all the way up to the release of the PS4 and that won them a lot of good will.
Nekketsu Kõha;245851582 said:
I was replying to Hedon, i quoted his post in the reply.
Tastes are tastes when it comes to style. Im not wrong and neither are you, its all personal , and mobile games have the highest volume/percentage of trash tier devs, of which very many will work from their bedroom.
Nekketsu Kõha
Banned
This. And are we really getting entire new gens going forward.
Also don't have to exadurate. Are Microsoft not making record profits with the Xbox? Isn't tens of millions of consoles sold? Please correct me if I got it all wrong.
McStickenstein
Member
The Scorpio reveal was almost all hardware focused. I don't know what the long term outlook for MS is, but they are definitely doubling down on hardware now, and maybe thinking about exclusives later.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
I brought this up a few months ago. They just dont care. Their head literally comes out and says he doesnt want to invest in most genres because they dont sell. he wants to pigeonhole himself and focus on games as a service games, and people defended him. And that's the thing, people like what he says and does.
His playerbase doesnt want exclusives. They are happy with BC, playing last gen games. They are happy with new XBL features every month. They are happily looking forward to another expensive $500 console to replace their previous underpowered $500 console that currently goes for $65 trade in value at Gamestop.
The point is he knows what his playerbase wants and they dont want more exclusives. There is nothing wrong with that from a business perspective.
As a gamer who is seeing one of the three console manufacturers and first party publisher just phone it in, it's frustrating and alarming that people are ok with this.
Sooner or later, Sony will see MS's success and say to themselves why bother funding all these japanese and B games when they can just focus on games as a service games and make just as much cash. They already looked at the XBL success and started charging $60 a year.
His playerbase doesnt want exclusives. They are happy with BC, playing last gen games. They are happy with new XBL features every month. They are happily looking forward to another expensive $500 console to replace their previous underpowered $500 console that currently goes for $65 trade in value at Gamestop.
The point is he knows what his playerbase wants and they dont want more exclusives. There is nothing wrong with that from a business perspective.
As a gamer who is seeing one of the three console manufacturers and first party publisher just phone it in, it's frustrating and alarming that people are ok with this.
Sooner or later, Sony will see MS's success and say to themselves why bother funding all these japanese and B games when they can just focus on games as a service games and make just as much cash. They already looked at the XBL success and started charging $60 a year.
I don't think you do
I own everything.....legit, I own everything. Have given back to this community and love everything about it. But when you just constantly show nothing and respond with nothing but bullshit is when I get defensive.
I love my Xbox One S despite it not have many exclusives, you can see me constantly having fun and getting into friendly banter with other users such as Etta who absolutely loves the system in other threads. I love my PS4 Pro of course as well and is my most used machine and I use it enough to have installed an SSD inside of it. I also have a switch of which I think Breath of the Wild is one of the greatest games I have ever played. I also just recently built a new gaming PC and play rocket league and in the future Destiny 2 with my buddies every single day.
My problem is when the only thing you show is a February quote that is absolutely empty with nothing valid to back it up then a million posts of "that's what I was told". You might want to rethink why people respond the way they do to you.
So my stance is.....I want more games from Microsoft.....and we are not getting it with all the statements that we have had of them improving over the last few years.
Papo Swing
Member
Nintendo, who has always had problems with game droughts on their consoles have now 4 exclusives in 6 months of the console being out.
All makes it the more clear how lacking MS has been with their games. It disappointing especially when they kill games/franchises like Fable.
All makes it the more clear how lacking MS has been with their games. It disappointing especially when they kill games/franchises like Fable.
Nekketsu Kõha;245852246 said:
Well we know that MS supported the Xbox 360 throughout the 10 year lifespan (though many here claimed the 360 would only be around 4-5 years). Even better, they are still supporting the Xbox 360 with Xbox One and Xbox One X with compatibility, the full digital store and discs. I remember them still releasing exclusives up until the end with games like Forza Horizon 2 and Tomb Raider.
And I legit own them all as well. Feel free to add me to your friends list if you like so we can jam together. My stance is the same as yours. I want more games from MS (I never said they had enough), and my stance is the same with Sony. As long as it is more quality games, not just more games.
I have used my PS Pro this past January - June more than my Xbox One S. I finished Uncharted 4, played and finished Nier Automata, currently working my way through Horizon Zero Dawn, started and finished Everyone's Gone to the Rapture (though wasn't a big fan but enjoyed the atmosphere. Played and finished Journey, and played an finished The Last Guardian.
So until you know the poster, maybe YOU might want to rethink why people respond the way they do to you.
Unfortunately I have to agree. Hence the reason I'm not bothering with the XboxX, I don't like Microsofts business perspective even if it does make them lots of money.
How about we agree to disagree, because in the end it seems we are looking for similar results and we enjoy gaming with both consoles and their games.
Phil Spencer needs to step down from his position
Jaded Alyx
Member
Is "xbone" considered in the same ballpark as "PSbore" ? Genuine question. I never would have thought so.
Nintendo only has one system to develop for (they are currently only publishing on 3DS, not developing). Pretty sure Nintendo is the most prolific publisher in the industry. The droughts occur when their output is split between two platforms and there are few to no third-party games of note to fill in the gaps.
Nekketsu Kõha
Banned
Lol exaggerate.
joecanada
Member
yeah I said a few years because it varies wildly... it takes however long it takes. that's not really the issue but the issue would be since 2015 how much news has there been?
I'd prefer to look at the track record ... do you suspect there are MS games we don't know about that will be announced "available tomorrow" because I have certainly never seen that. we have seen crackdown for years. PR is gonna PR no matter what. E3 just passed, I don't expect we don't know of a game coming out this year.
Steve McQueen
Member
I hope Gamescom will show some new exclusives. If not, i'm gonna rethink buying that Xbox One X.
Not enough.
Start rethinking already as they won't show any new exclusives till E3 2018 and even then it will be Halo 6, Horizon 4, Gears of War 5 as the exclusives shown.
Spencer won't even be at Gamescom this year.
SneakersSO
Member
Exclusives take funding. They aren't thinking about exclusives later - just the ones they are already vested in.
If the thing you're looking for are exclusives of a caliber higher than they've shown or higher than what they featured at E3, then you may as well start rethinking your use of those $500 now. Just put that money towards a top of the line PC & get an X1 controller for it. You get the best of all worlds that way.
So it's confirmed then that their focus is just on their tentpole franchises and no new exclusives ?
SneakersSO
Member
I mean, they have a few deals here & there, but nothing outside of the size, scale, or budgetary constraints of what we've seen them pursue in the last few years. Only now, budgets have gotten even tighter across the board. Is what it is.
Dash_Riprock
Member
But the MAU! The MAU!
Nekketsu Kõha;245854916 said:
We don't, that was his point. MS has been dead silent about hardware sales for years now.
Nekketsu Kõha
Banned
I stand corrected. If you got any sources on hand I would love to read them.
I see, thanks
Nekketsu Kõha
Banned
Ok that's bad. Maybe that is why the focus is so hard on hardware now.
Nekketsu Kõha
Banned
Lol I really had no idea. Well I did sell mine so not like I don't understand why.
Edit: Ok all I can find are estimates basically ps4 beating them in sales 2 to 1?! Is at least a close race in America?
Green Yoshi
Member
They own so many great IPs like Perfect Dark, Freelancer, Midtown Madness, Banjo&Kazooie, Fable and Project Gotham Racing. But nothing gets announced. :-(
Nekketsu Kõha
Banned
Well perfect dark gameplay is pretty out dated. Cod 2 sold better if memory serves me right at the release of the 360 and I didn't know anyone playing that or do I remember that community having legs. Not sure why they would make another one.
Banjo kazooie didn't do well last time right?
Fable had flop after flop. Wouldn't it be hard to even muster hype for that game?
Project Gotham racing is a racing game and they already got that genre covered probably the one genre everyone is satisfied with on the Xbox.
At least something.
DriftingSpirit
Member
UK is another area where they are on par with Sony. Almost everywhere else is where the discrepancy comes from.Nekketsu Kõha;245856708 said:
Nekketsu Kõha
Banned
So things pretty much on the whole hasn't changed since they got into gaming? Except losing market share now in America and the UK.
Nekketsu Kõha;245856708 said:
I am so tired of people saying "well MS tried and look how bad they sold." Problem is MS did not try hard at all. Perfect Dark Zero and Banjo Nuts and Bolts were quite average games that are not true sequels to their respective franchises, especially Banjo, which seems like a different game altogether. No wonder they didn't sell well. MS with its half assed attempts of these franchises. If a great game was made in the first place, they would have sold.
Fable and flop after flop?? What??
DriftingSpirit
Member
Basically.Nekketsu Kõha;245857714 said:
They improved with 360 but they lost all of it this gen on top of losing share from their strongest markets.
Yeah I'd like to see some receipts on that. The third may not have set the world on fire but most likely decent performers. It was the bad decisions over what to do with the series that was the issue. A genuine Fable reboot/relaunch could garner some interest if it returned to the root idea of the first game. I'd be completely down and if fully exclusive could even tempt me out of my XB frost
Nekketsu Kõha
Banned
It is gonna be an interesting 2018.
Microsoft has a decent amount of great IPs, but it's sad that they don't go back to use any of them except for Halo, Gears, and Forza. I mean, I do like those games in general, but Xbox is so lacking in creativity whereas Sony and Nintendo are just constantly killing it with their first party and having new IPs or new and unique experiences with existing IPs. I'd love for Microsoft to try for new IPs (with the exception of Sea of Thieves) or dip into Rare's catalogue of games of course (Battletoads, Conker, Perfect Dark, Kameo, Banjo) or Shadowrun or MechAssault / MechWarrior or Fable or Crimson Skies. But Phil seems to be playing it safe and it doesn't seem to be in their future so far besides backward compatibility games or remastered games.
iHaunter
Member
Not to mention canceling one that looked almost done...
I'm sure they were trying to utilize the license even though they probably couldn't justify a "full game" budget, but following up Fable 3 with a Kinect game, an XBL beat-em-up, a hilariously mis-timed 360 remake of Fable 1 and...what, a card game? Then trying to put together a class-based online co-op game for XB1? Nah, I'd love a full-throated sequel, but they diluted that franchise in a way that was obvious to anyone seeing it happen.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
I believe the only country Xbox is leading in sales is Mexico.