Muffin1611
Banned
She meant that if Darryl has an argument or something, she'd be fine answering it coming from nin, I think.
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She meant that if Darryl has an argument or something, she'd be fine answering it coming from nin, I think.
Should probably say "He can discuss with Nin"
A Muffin/Samurai and Darryl/Nin scum team would be kinda mindblowing lol
Muffin1611
Banned
I was fully serious.
But I guess it doesn't matter anyway.
I'll do this: UNVOTE and discuss something real quick. Have fun.
I don't know.
In a previous game I shared a scum team with Darryl and even I wanted to kill him.
Well, I don't know much about Flush. I think Ouro is a very plausible candidate to lynch today.
I said in the last day phase that I didn't think, with how the votes positioned, that one of those players could be scum and not the other one (Ouro vs. FEP). I'll have to go back and look at how they were positioned at the time to see what was making me think that but that will be later on, ~maybe tonight I can try to figure out where I was coming from
I think this one will work either way, but votes (and unvotes) should be placed on their own line.
Laaaaaaame
Royal_Flush
Member
Of course. I'm 95% sure Ourokitty is Scum.
I have no other strong Scum reads. There are several people I could imagine being Scum (aka Nulls and slight scumlean):
- Darryl's hunt for Smuffin actually left me a bit insecure about them.
- Sawrian still haven't really redeemed themselves.
- Darryl/Nin are playing like always, which unfortunately means they have almost no connections at all (Nin) or very strong connections but only to very few players (Darryl). So solid Null
- CzarSketch are basically absent.
- Trigger and Ty4on are an interesting case. Trigger is basically a non-entity and Ty4on is capable and non-committal enough that I don't trust any interactions of him with kits/FEP. including the vote. However, monkey thinks rather high of them. I will probably follow her lead here for now, but it doesn't mean I personally particullary Town read them
Heck, let's make it a full list:
- Crimsonphia still are a solid townread.
- I don't see that a pressured newbie scum (kits) wants to make or gets talked into making an in-depth read about somebody and the picks or gets told to pick a scummate for it. That's at the moment my main argument in favor of fran. His play doesn't strike me as odd either, so probably town
- XKark had a solid D2 despite the D1 nothingness. Lean slightly Town.
- Natiko Sparks seem okay so far
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Royal_Flush
Member
I think the intention was more like
Muffin <-gamethread-> Nin <-private chat-> Darryl
and the "discuss" therefore really meant to mean Nin, but the private chat for Nin to speak for Darryl. That's how I read it at least. Doesn't matter either way, because I agree that there is no way Muffin and Darryl are in the same Scum team.
Heh, I probably should have specified "Other than Ouro" but you covered it anyhow. >_>;
Star I could definitely see being scum at this point, but I'd much rather see Ouro lynched first and see where that leaves us. The TLDR from my analysis in my lover chat as far as my scum leans was:
Ouro/kk
Royal/monkey
Star/Czar
Kark/Xbro (Put up in Ouro's tier if Ouro flips scum)
Sophia/Crim
Based on today so far I would bump samurai and muffin up to that bottom tier of scum lean.
Ouro/kk
Royal/monkey
Star/Czar
Kark/Xbro (Put up in Ouro's tier if Ouro flips scum)
Sophia/Crim
Based on today so far I would bump samurai and muffin up to that bottom tier of scum lean.
hey_monkey
Banned
I doubt it because considering both nights it appears nothing happened and we were only silenced last night
A couple of things here. You said that the Silencer was likely Scum, and the 'Roleblocker' was likely scum as well. What are your thoughts on each of them now with this in mind?
Well she wouldn't know that we targeted them, only that she was targeted
And sure, I can see it being a possibility that there is a roleblocker on both sides but it seems swingy. More likely to assume solely a scum RB
The Silencer could be neutral (or Town, but I think that's the least likely option). Willing to bet money that the RB is scum though, especially since Town had a virgin
CrimsonFist
Member
This speculation seems a bit farfetched, and this is the second time you've gotten hung up on role blockers.
Read what I said when Sorian got pissy at me for this
Duh
CrimsonFist
Member
He hasn't actually claimed yet.
Starting to wonder if they're neutral, with the playing in a way to avoid a night kill, item handing out related role, targeting players who are unlikely to be night killed and being cagey around actually claiming.
YesNOnoNOYes
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DAY 3 CURRENT VOTE TALLY:
Ourobolus & kingkitty (6)
Sorian 2588
franconp 2589
Royal_Flush 2592
nin1000 2595
Natiko 2599
Dr. Worm 2600
Sawneeks & Sorian (1)
Ourobolus 2597
Muffin1611 & Samuraischnecke (0):Muffin1611 2743 2753
No active vote for Day 3: CrimsonFist, CzarTim, Darryl, hey_monkey, Karkador, kingkitty, Muffin1611 (has previously voted), Nomadic Sparks, Samuraischnecke, Sawneeks, Sophia, StarSketch, Trigger, Ty4on, Xbro
Day 3 Postcount: CrimsonFist 12, CzarTim 0, Darryl 4, Dr. Worm 18, franconp 17, hey_monkey 11, Karkador 0, kingkitty 0, Muffin1611 8, Natiko 14, nin1000 4, Nomadic Sparks 0, Ourobolus 51, Royal_Flush 4, Samuraischnecke 2, Sawneeks 0, Sophia 7, Sorian 15, StarSketch 0, Trigger 0, Ty4on 21, Xbro 4
Day 3 ends:
Automated vote tally here
12 votes for majority
Ourobolus & kingkitty (6)
Sorian 2588
franconp 2589
Royal_Flush 2592
nin1000 2595
Natiko 2599
Dr. Worm 2600
Sawneeks & Sorian (1)
Ourobolus 2597
Muffin1611 & Samuraischnecke (0):
No active vote for Day 3: CrimsonFist, CzarTim, Darryl, hey_monkey, Karkador, kingkitty, Muffin1611 (has previously voted), Nomadic Sparks, Samuraischnecke, Sawneeks, Sophia, StarSketch, Trigger, Ty4on, Xbro
Day 3 Postcount: CrimsonFist 12, CzarTim 0, Darryl 4, Dr. Worm 18, franconp 17, hey_monkey 11, Karkador 0, kingkitty 0, Muffin1611 8, Natiko 14, nin1000 4, Nomadic Sparks 0, Ourobolus 51, Royal_Flush 4, Samuraischnecke 2, Sawneeks 0, Sophia 7, Sorian 15, StarSketch 0, Trigger 0, Ty4on 21, Xbro 4
Day 3 ends:
Automated vote tally here
12 votes for majority
Nope. Town.
As wonderful as my neutral claim was in GAFIA 2, I was scum that game and needed to have a fake claim. This time I don't need to, but I also don't need scum to know the extent of how useful it is.
hey_monkey
Banned
That could be. Could explain too conflicts with people who probably aren't on teams.
He claimed a PR. He just didn't said what it is.
I didn't understand the bolded. Can you explain what you wanted to say?
CrimsonFist
Member
The role read in the OP says we need to kill everyone who is against our faction. Whether that includes neutrals or not is up to semantics really, but my immediate lean is towards no neutrals
hey_monkey
Banned
I'm not super versed in all the possible roles, so it could well be that I'm missing something obvious, but these different answers don't seem to make sense together to me. Didn't strike before as you were saying it's super useful. Now it is?
Meaning if they are neutral, it could explain how kitty and Ouro do seem to have some conflicts/callouts on teams one would assume to be different sides. But now I'm considering and thinking that there's really no reason Schmuffin and Sawrian couldn't both be scum if Ourokitty isn't. And I'm looking back at votes and I think Ourokitty is pretty consistent with what I'd call scummy voting patterns at this point, if two days can produce a pattern. fep's weird like two second vote on Ouro stands out to me, for one, and voting kitty and then saying kitty was a bright spot is another. I dunno. I guess there are other people who seem more split across possible "sides" than Ourokitty. I'm sorry, I should be hanging back since I'm not full attention right now (but it's so hard to stay away!)
hey_monkey
Banned
That is a good catch.
I am intentionally being vague. I've outright stated I'm not a cop or a doc, but our role can be useful, though maybe not as much as those roles. Basically if we get roleblocked in lieu of scum hitting something like that, I'll consider it a win.
FEP was actually the first one to make any sort of argument against me, you sheeped him because you had a hard on for defending kitsune and him and obviously weren't going to vote yourself.
Right, because I think they're both scum and wanted to force the two of them to be competing wagons.
I see this shit. Don't think doubling down makes it better.
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I quoted Sam to intending to bash down that claim that we were only voting Ouro for him being silenced or whatever but the multiquote didn't put it in here and everyone else already said what I wanted to so not important.
Ouro is claiming that he was roleblocked and silenced. That means that 2 roles targeted him?
I mean either I was roleblocked last night or you are lying about not getting a notification. Or I guess if there is a switcher involved somewhere, but if that was the case I'd still expect the end target to say something.
Yes, if he wasn't silenced day 1 and Star/Tim didn't claim anything then that is clearly the case.
It's like a daisy chain. Now everyone can think I am scum next when you flip scum.
The roleblocker is most likely scum so either Ouro is scum lying about the role or the silencer has to be either neutral or town as it makes no sense to scum to double down on a target.
Eh, I can see it.
1) I can't explain my night actions since they seemingly never went anywhere
2) I can't coordinate with my partner in private to find a way to navigate the oncoming lynch train
There's nothing forcing the roleblocker or the silencer to be scum imo. That's also not even starting conversation on if the roleblocker is a real thing or not or if the silencer is scum and just didn't target anyone last night.
We have Virgins. Likelihood of a scum hooker is high.
How did scum knew that you have a role and that it would inform your targets of your action?
That doesn't make sense.
Reread Vere & WAMD flip. There is a hooker in the game.
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