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Tenerife is dropping its fecal waters unfiltered & untreated near beaches.

shiyrley

Banned
And nobody in the government seems to care.

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Change.org regarding this

Disgusting video of fecal waters on their way to the sea (I think anyone with a facebook account can watch this?)

I live in Tenerife and this is making me sick. All water in beaches is visibly dirty and full of literal shit. Of course, since the ones complaining are the locals, and we locals don't matter, they won't do anything unless tourists start complaining, international media picks on, and tourism actually takes a hit.

In fact the goverment is so full of shit (heh) that they are calling this "microalgae". No sir, this is microshit.

I don't even know what the purpose of this thread is. Don't come here until it's fixed I guess. Warn people.

Living near the sea & being able to go to the beach anytime is one of the few good things about living in this isolated place and now I can't even do that in peace. Ugh.

More pics:

There is a new article about this. If you can read Spanish here is the article.

If you can't here is the article in a nutshell:

96% of fecal and industrial waters in Tenerife are thrown to the sea without any filtering or treatment. There are 170 sewage points in Tenerife (data from 2008, it's probable a shiton more now), and of those 170,120 do NOT have authorisation to do any sewage. Only 2.3 million litres of water are treated, while the 96% remaining is not. This mean just in Tenerife 57 millions litres of water are dropped untreated to the sea. And, again, this is 2008 data. It's probably even worse now. And this is only speaking of Tenerife, this happens on all the Canary Islands, but apparently the damage is only easily visible in Tenerife. There are 500 located sewage points across all the Canary Islands, and of those 500 only 102 are authorised, meaning the 74% of sewage across all the islands are unauthorised. To help imagine the scale of this, in Santa Cruz, Tenerife's capital city, there are 34 (located, probably more) sewage points, of which only 9 are authorised.

Again, the Canary Islands government WON'T recognise this. This is breaking the European Union law. If relevant UE authorities notice this they will be in BIG trouble (as they deserve). They even go as far as threatening people calling us liars and accusing us of spreading false rumours on twitter/facebook and creating "unnecessary social alarm".

Please spread this to anyone who has ever considered coming to the Canary Islands. In an ideal world there would be zero tourists until this is resolved.

I forgot to mention that there has been a huge spike recently in hepatitis A cases in the Canary Islands. I wonder why. :^)
 

Damaniel

Banned
Why aren't tourists also up in arms about this? You'd think they'd want nice beaches and clear oceans just as much as the native residents do.
 
I vacationed in Alaska last month. Specifically, we were in Sitka. A lot of the houses (including the one we stayed at) are on the bay, and are up in pretty remote areas. I wondered how the sewage worked, until I walked from the house down to the bay and saw large pipes which ran right into the water. I figured it might have been sewage, but it was confirmed when I saw the neighbor's pipe had cracked near the water and some of the remains were smattered around the ground.

I figured this was just normal for remote areas and the water still looked really beautiful, so I just assumed the amount of refuse was negligible compared to the size of the bay, so it wouldn't affect the water.

I'm curious what's different about these two areas that makes it work in one place but not in another.

Canary Islands don't really seem like that big of a place, so I can't imagine people are outputting enough refuse that it would affect the color of the water. The ocean is pretty big. Is it possible that it actually *is* microalgae?
 

wipeout364

Member
What is the usual method of disposing of waste on the island. They may not have the population density to support other methods or the tax base. They may have been doing this for years has there been a significant population increase? How does your house deal with sewage? Just wondering I have never heard of this place.
 
I vacationed in Alaska last month. Specifically, we were in Sitka. A lot of the houses (including the one we stayed at) are on the bay, and are up in pretty remote areas. I wondered how the sewage worked, until I walked from the house down to the bay and saw large pipes which ran right into the water. I figured it might have been sewage, but it was confirmed when I saw the neighbor's pipe had cracked near the water and some of the remains were smattered around the ground.

I figured this was just normal for remote areas and the water still looked really beautiful, so I just assumed the amount of refuse was negligible compared to the size of the bay, so it wouldn't affect the water.

I'm curious what's different about these two areas that makes it work in one place but not in another.

Canary Islands don't really seem like that big of a place, so I can't imagine people are outputting enough refuse that it would affect the color of the water. The ocean is pretty big. Is it possible that it actually *is* microalgae?
Sure there weren't septic tanks between? That's how it normally works in rural areas.
 
Sure there weren't septic tanks between? That's how it normally works in rural areas.

I definitely didn't see any. There was literally a large PVC pipe running from the house straight to the bay, and it had broken off about 2 feet from the water and there was shit all over the ground.
 

shiyrley

Banned
I'm gonna go out on a limb and say they aren't drinking ocean water.
We drink bottled water, in the capital city & most heavily populated/urban areas the water is pretty bad. There are some areas where the water is better.
That's fucking awful, how long has this been going on for?
I assume it has been going on since forever but for some reason it's getting more noticeable now. Or maybe some of these water was supposed to get filtered but for some reason they don't anymore. I don't know and they won't explain or recognise it.
So what changed that this is happening now?
Are you actually sick?
Is your drinking water affected?
I'm not sure.
No.
The drinking water is shitty either way, we drink bottled water.
People should be outrage about this.
We (the locals) are. We are also being ignored.

Guys, here you can see another video of this happening. The video in the OP was in the north of the city (the capital), this one is in the south (around the touristic area)
https://www.facebook.com/7.Canarias/videos/10154893639102473/
 

shiyrley

Banned
Seems pretty stupid of the government when I imagine that a lot of the economy revolves around beach tourism
It's fucking stupid yeah, like, I get they don't care about actual canarian people, but this affects tourists too.

Guys, when I say government I'm not referring to Spain's actual goverment but the Tenerife/Canary Islands one. How's that called exactly? Is "government" the proper word or is it something like "town hall"? English can be confusing sometimes :(
 

shiyrley

Banned
Canary Islands don't really seem like that big of a place, so I can't imagine people are outputting enough refuse that it would affect the color of the water.
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Población = Population, of course.
That's foul. Whoever is in charge of this can kiss their job goodbye.
The whole PP political party is completely corrupted and they are still on charge lul

I wish Spain functioned properly as a country
 

shiyrley

Banned
More pictures:

Meanwhile everyone keeps denying this and making stuff up (microalgae lul) because they want to save face in front of the tourists. This is insane.
At least I can go to the pool I guess...
 

NewGame

Banned
This is literally eco vandalism.

If someone did this to the beach near me I'd find them and discuss my indignation in person.
 

shiyrley

Banned
This is literally eco vandalism.

If someone did this to the beach near me I'd find them and discuss my indignation in person.
We are ALL complaining and being loud as fuck. Every time I get out to the street I overhear at least one person mention this issue. Literally.

But since they claim we are lying, spreading false rumours, etc, and absolutely nobody seems to care even the slightess, I don't really know how to proceed.

I just want one UK newspaper to report this. Actually The Sun did but they didn't do it right since they didn't mention the actual issue (fecal waters).
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/4195976/canary-islands-tourist-warning-toxic-sea-sawdust-algae/
 

shiyrley

Banned
Anyone who can read Spanish please read this.

If you can't here is the article in a nutshell:

96% of fecal and industrial waters in Tenerife are thrown to the sea without any filtering or treatment. There are 170 sewage points in Tenerife (data from 2008, it's probable a shiton more now), and of those 170,120 do NOT have authorisation to do any sewage. Only 2.3 million litres of water are treated, while the 96% remaining is not. This mean just in Tenerife 57 millions litres of water are dropped untreated to the sea. And, again, this is 2008 data. It's probably even worse now. And this is only speaking of Tenerife, this happens on all the Canary Islands, but apparently the damage is only easily visible in Tenerife. There are 500 located sewage points across all the Canary Islands, and of those 500 only 102 are authorised, meaning the 74% of sewage across all the islands are unauthorised. To help imagine the scale of this, in Santa Cruz, Tenerife's capital city, there are 34 (located, probably more) sewage points, of which only 9 are authorised.

Again, the Canary Islands government WON'T recognise this. This is breaking the European Union law. If relevant UE authorities notice this they will be in BIG trouble (as they deserve).

Please spread this to anyone who has ever considered coming to the Canary Islands. In an ideal world there would be zero tourists until this is resolved.
 

Liljagare

Member
So glad I use the pool when I visit in Puerto de La Cruz, the water seemed iffy, and I had flashbacks to Puerto de Santa Maria/Cadiz/Jerez area, they were also late to the water treatment age.

Recently been to Galicia, and there too it is prevalent with unfiltered sewage. Street waste water definitively still is untreated all over.

It seems to be something with the communal/principality mentality atleast in south/NE of Spain, and I guess also the Canaries.. horrible and icky. :\
 

Patrick S.

Banned
This has always been the case on Tenerife, and I always had it on my mind when I went to the beach. Why not also talk about the tap water supply, where the water sits in open reservoirs in the sun, without any kind of cover, and everything from rubbish to goats falls into them? It's maddening how backwards things can be on the Canaries, and how the people are so used to it that they don't even bother to complain. In fact, it's a huge part of the reason why I left the place, I got sick of it after more than twenty years of living there.
 

Doesn't it smell? I'd never sit on such a nasty beach.


I don't get it at all. They are literally putting their core industry, tourism, at risk because they want to save a few bucks by not having proper filtration.
How stupid is that?


This is breaking the European Union law.
Pesky EU and and their damn overregulation, amirite?!
 

nampad

Member
I wasn't interested to go to the Canary Islands anyway but now I surely won't go there until they have fixed it.

Can't believe there are still tourists going to the beach, the islands will be dead when this is getting more public. But at least they didn't have to filter their sewage...
 
I was in Tenerife last year, took a walk from the beach to the top of the mountain (10hours!) and got this picture!

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Can't really recall if the beaches were that dirty though.
 

shiyrley

Banned
I'd probably try to contact the EU greens like Ska Keller. They are usually pretty fast to respond from what I've been told and I'm sure they'd take some interest in the situation



damn.....
yeah... just send her the pics... ugh that's nasty
I'm going to contact this person via email. Thanks.
 
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