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Marvel Vs. Capcom: Infinite Characters and Stages Roster |DT2| oh dear...
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I can't blame you for thinking that but honestly, between today's trailer and the clips at the SDCC panel, I'm getting pretty excited for it. Sure, it'll be corny and probably too short, but it seems like every character and location is getting a fair bit of use and some of the dialogue is actually non-ironically funny (Frank and Haggar's exchange that Max tweeted about definitely put a grin on my face). Interactions like Hulk and Ryu's fastball special and Rocket using Ebony & Ivory are pretty entertaining to me too. And Jedah being one of the primary antagonists of a 2017 console game? It's not going to change anyone's life (and if you don't already care about any of the characters, you're definitely not going to get anything out of it) but it's looking like they're putting a lot more thought into it than the downloadable demo might have indicated.
I gotta say that 99% of the character renders still look absolutely awful. The only two who look decent are X and Zero. Maybe I'll throw Iron Man a bone.
But every other render is easily the worst official rendition of those characters that's ever existed. All Capcom did was have artist(s) work on a couple faces and then they called it a day. In my opinion, its unfortunate to see people throwing praise at Capcom on Twitter when they *barely* did anything to improve those characters. That positive feedback just says "We're okay with this bare minimum you've delivered".
Its still appalling to me that Chun-Li's proportions and those of other characters - like Captain America - weren't worked on. Chun-Li is one of their most iconic characters and she still looks like a freak.
But every other render is easily the worst official rendition of those characters that's ever existed. All Capcom did was have artist(s) work on a couple faces and then they called it a day. In my opinion, its unfortunate to see people throwing praise at Capcom on Twitter when they *barely* did anything to improve those characters. That positive feedback just says "We're okay with this bare minimum you've delivered".
Its still appalling to me that Chun-Li's proportions and those of other characters - like Captain America - weren't worked on. Chun-Li is one of their most iconic characters and she still looks like a freak.
Been playing Breath of Fire IV recently for the first time, and I sure hope we eventually get Fou-Lu as a DLC character. If only for these sick tracks:
Men of War - (Fou-lu's) - Battle Theme
A Warring God
I bet they could have some fun with the God Emperor in story mode too.
Hell, there are so many Breath of Fire characters that would make for sick fighting game characters. I definitely wouldn't mind another magic/spell themed character.
Men of War - (Fou-lu's) - Battle Theme
A Warring God
I bet they could have some fun with the God Emperor in story mode too.
Hell, there are so many Breath of Fire characters that would make for sick fighting game characters. I definitely wouldn't mind another magic/spell themed character.
This is the face I imagine I make when I'm horribly constipated.
are you horribly constipated often?
yeah I agree about Chun. She looks better but the model is still off. I think all the other ladies and most of the marvel side look pretty good though.
Luckily not, my diet is high in fiber!
The novelty of it already wore off the first time I saw those horrible cutscenes in the story demo. If the voice acting, writing and animation at least matched that of a second-rate animated kids movie I might be interested. But it doesn't even reach that level of quality. Its on the level of old junk like Mad World which had super basic writing and cinematography. And then consider the competition; NRS has done some fantastic story work in the very same genre on multiple occasions. There's no excuse Capcom can give to us, the consumers, for how meager their output is with MvCI. (And hey, as the customer budgets and dollars are not my problem.) There's no way I can be content with what they're delivering and I honestly am surprised that anyone can feel otherwise. But oh well, to each his own.
Captain Marvel doesn't look as bad but her face looks ugly in some shots due to bad lighting. Gamora's face is flat and garrish due to the simple texture work they went with for her skin colors. And Morrigan still looks like a drug addict with make-up on.
direct_quote
Member
I think Captain Marvel's face looks good, you seem off the mark there.
Unattractive would be the better word to use. She's okay until you see her from certain angles. I've seen it in a gameplay footage.
I also find her hair/head/face ratio off-putting. (Chun-Li's ratio looks even worse to me.)
christiankid7
Member
I'd be okay with that as long as Janet was an alt. Though I'd rather the opposite.
I'd say we're getting 3 seasons minimum, but I guess that's only if it succeeds. I don't see Captain Commando or Jin as too crazy considering their popularity on the polls.
DantesLink
Member
Alright, the trailer totally hit the right spots for me (Been looking forward to a cinematic Dante V. Jedah due to Capcom Fighting Evolution in MVC:I, even if its depicted as a stomping to highlight the big bad). The "event" style matches in story mode sound neat. Multi-Match Lobbies are cool, wish they could have squeezed in 4-player mode.
how can that be when you're so full of shit?
Retromelon
Member
Dantes right arm is the uncanny valley
looks like complaining nonstop worked after all
now to complain about dantes really shitty looking effects
he really does, that fire pillar shit is atrocious
by the way, this is the second game in a row where people were SURE Ms.Marvel (as in, Kamala) was a shoe-in, and she is nowhere to be seen.
The other being Marvel Heroes when the 2016 season pass was announced (back when the game wastn dying yet).
What happened? It seemed Marvel wanted to push her hard at one point, at least in the comics which everyone assumed would bleed into other products, but apparently...not so much.
The other being Marvel Heroes when the 2016 season pass was announced (back when the game wastn dying yet).
What happened? It seemed Marvel wanted to push her hard at one point, at least in the comics which everyone assumed would bleed into other products, but apparently...not so much.
Undead Fantasy
Member
Wait at least until BF. Should have a good discount then.
katsubento
Member
I'm actually excited to play this story mode now.
NO NO NO YOU TAKE THAT BACK RIGHT NOW DO NOT CURSE US. Lol.
I honestly still foolishly hold out hope for the return of Jin. He's done fairly well in MVC popularity polls and if Capcom wants to spark some goodwill and do damage control, I would hope they would release an MVC classics character pack. Of course since this would be a wise decision, it isn't likely to happen :/.
But at this point, who honestly has better odds of getting into the game: Jin/CapCom or X-Men?
As in zero newcomers or any veterans not in 3? Regardless of who, I'd imagine that we'd at least get some newcomers mixed in with the veterans. Obviously we'll get the Fox characters & some other popular veterans back, but all future DLC characters past S1 being veterans would be basically fueling the hate flames (Fox characters aside).
I didn't get involved in the avatar bet because I wanted to take the wait-&-see stance (and something didn't sit right in my gut about the whole situation). But suggesting that none of Season 2 will have anyone not in 3 flying too close to the sun.
Vaughngief
Member
If someone wants avatars I think these basically fit
I took a gander at the main character page and didn't see nothing. Too lazy to check individual pages for a mistake.
Guess I'll take Frank.
lucebuce12
Member
christiankid7
Member
Well I did this for 5 UMVC3 DLC polls
This took way more time than I anticipated
I had to take out all the Xmen characters in each top 5 plus the characters in the game already (Captain Marvel (made top 3 in all polls), Black Panther (top 10 in at least one poll), Thanos (top 10 in at least one poll) and Sigma (top 10 in at least one poll) Oh I forgot to mention X (top 5 in nearly every poll) and Jedah (top 10 in at least one poll) had to be taken out as well.
Gambit(top 5 in every poll), Psylocke(top 5 in every poll), Cyclops, Armor, Emma Frost made top 5 in at least one poll, Juggernaut and Rogue made at least top 10 in at least one poll
using some of the other top 10 characters to fill their slots (otherwise its Venom only) we get
1. Venom
2. Green Goblin
3. Doctor Octopus
4. Moon Knight
5. Songbird
1. Gene
2. Megaman.EXE
3. Breath of Fire Ryu
4. Captain Commando
5. Jin Saotome
Looking at the current 4-6 speculated DLC roster (Panther/Sigma/Venom/Monster Hunter/Winter Soldier?/Meio?)
Not mine
-Venom was the first or at least top 5 in all 5 DLC polls
-Monster Hunter is a bit harder to place since Capcom officially said the dev team for MH did not want characters from their series in 3. But thanks to Pixiv the female Monster Hunter did make top 15 ONCE, just barely missing top 10..
-Black Panther was pretty highly requested
-Sigma did pretty well as well.
Winter Soldier and Meio weren't requested.
Daredevil never made a top 10, but did make top 20, Loki made one top 10. Just throwing them out there.
Disneys killing its games by treating them like advertisements
by Joe Parlock
Last year, Disney cancelled its toys-to-life game Disney Infinity, and, along with it, its entire console publishing division. Other than licensing to other developers and mobile games, Disney is out of the games business.
And yet, somehow, it still manages to screw up how it does games.
People are not happy with what weve seen so far of Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite. As a long-awaited follow-up to the much-loved MvC series, Capcom and Disney had a lot of work to do to win over fans, but even then most conversations of the game have been dominated by criticisms: the art-style is ugly, the simplified gameplay doesnt gel with the rest of the series, the story is nonsense, and, most importantly, the roster just isnt up to scratch.
The Marvel side of Infinite is entirely comprised characters found in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Not a single member of the X-men is anywhere to be seen, and theres no Shuma-Gorath, Taskmaster, or She-Hulk from Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3, either. Instead we get Ant-man, Rocket Racoon and Groot, every member of the Avengers (except Black Widow, funnily enough), and even baddies like Ultron and Thanos. Even Captain Marvel, whose film isnt even out yet, gets a slot.
And this is where Disneys major failing with games lies; it sees them entirely as vessels to promote their newest IPs instead of a celebration of what makes it so great. When it comes to games, Disney very rarely looks back more than a few years, and just picks whatever its trying to sell tickets and Blu-ray copies of at the time of launch.
This is more than likely what killed Disney Infinity, beside the exorbitant cost of producing a toys-to-life game. The very first edition of the game launched with a tie-in for its hot new film, The Lone Ranger. That Lone Ranger film that was godawful, commercially tanked, and is never spoken about these days, but had a decent amount of funding dedicated to cramming it into Infinity.
The future expansions did this even more, with Disney Infinity 2.0 dedicated to showing the world hey gang, we own Marvel now!, and 3.0 being all things Star Wars to coincide with the release of The Force Awakens. While each update did come with a few classic characters, they were generally centered on whatever Disney was doing at the time. In 2.0 if it wasnt Marvel, it was Maleficent (another film nobody cares about anymore) and Big Hero 6. 3.0 was accompanied by a literal landslide of Inside Out, Zootopia, and even more Marvel to tie in with Captain America: Civil War.
While this decision to sell the new, unproven characters instead of long-established and well-loved ones was probably a major factor in Disney Infinitys death, Disneys been doing this for years before the Infinity series even came along. Kingdom Hearts, a wildly successful set of games, still has themed worlds that coincided with new releases at the time of their launch Kingdom Hearts 2 had a Pirates of the Caribbean world, Dream Drop Distance had a Tron: Legacy world. While there is a larger gap between the films release and its Kingdom Hearts outing than there was for Disney Infinity, it still felt incredibly advertorial when a game generally focused on revisiting the classics would suddenly drop us in that big film of last summer that nobody really liked.
As a smaller example, Capcom releasing the Disney Afternoon Collection, which includes a release of the DuckTales NES games, the same year we get a reboot of the DuckTales cartoon, probably isnt a coincidence.
And so here we are at why Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite will probably fail. The rest of the games felt incredibly reverent of its source materials, both on the Capcom and Marvel sides. But now, with its full character roster potentially leaked, it feels like an empty shell fit to be crammed full of characters you can then go and see on the big screen.
It turns the game into a cynical cash-grab, a tie-in game as opposed to the celebration of Capcom and Marvel it should be. Every character on Disneys site of the screen comes with the unwritten note of from Marvels Cinematic Universe, in cinemas now!, and I really hate that. Cinematic tie-in characters are fine, but when theyre at the expense of series regulars like Storm or She-Hulk, it very much isnt fine. Id love to see Capcom stick Wolverine back in, in his yellow superhero suit, calling everyone bub.
Except they cant, because Disney cant sell that.
source-
http://letsplayvideogames.com/2017/...s-games-by-treating-them-like-advertisements/
by Joe Parlock
Last year, Disney cancelled its toys-to-life game Disney Infinity, and, along with it, its entire console publishing division. Other than licensing to other developers and mobile games, Disney is out of the games business.
And yet, somehow, it still manages to screw up how it does games.
People are not happy with what weve seen so far of Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite. As a long-awaited follow-up to the much-loved MvC series, Capcom and Disney had a lot of work to do to win over fans, but even then most conversations of the game have been dominated by criticisms: the art-style is ugly, the simplified gameplay doesnt gel with the rest of the series, the story is nonsense, and, most importantly, the roster just isnt up to scratch.
The Marvel side of Infinite is entirely comprised characters found in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Not a single member of the X-men is anywhere to be seen, and theres no Shuma-Gorath, Taskmaster, or She-Hulk from Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3, either. Instead we get Ant-man, Rocket Racoon and Groot, every member of the Avengers (except Black Widow, funnily enough), and even baddies like Ultron and Thanos. Even Captain Marvel, whose film isnt even out yet, gets a slot.
And this is where Disneys major failing with games lies; it sees them entirely as vessels to promote their newest IPs instead of a celebration of what makes it so great. When it comes to games, Disney very rarely looks back more than a few years, and just picks whatever its trying to sell tickets and Blu-ray copies of at the time of launch.
This is more than likely what killed Disney Infinity, beside the exorbitant cost of producing a toys-to-life game. The very first edition of the game launched with a tie-in for its hot new film, The Lone Ranger. That Lone Ranger film that was godawful, commercially tanked, and is never spoken about these days, but had a decent amount of funding dedicated to cramming it into Infinity.
The future expansions did this even more, with Disney Infinity 2.0 dedicated to showing the world hey gang, we own Marvel now!, and 3.0 being all things Star Wars to coincide with the release of The Force Awakens. While each update did come with a few classic characters, they were generally centered on whatever Disney was doing at the time. In 2.0 if it wasnt Marvel, it was Maleficent (another film nobody cares about anymore) and Big Hero 6. 3.0 was accompanied by a literal landslide of Inside Out, Zootopia, and even more Marvel to tie in with Captain America: Civil War.
While this decision to sell the new, unproven characters instead of long-established and well-loved ones was probably a major factor in Disney Infinitys death, Disneys been doing this for years before the Infinity series even came along. Kingdom Hearts, a wildly successful set of games, still has themed worlds that coincided with new releases at the time of their launch Kingdom Hearts 2 had a Pirates of the Caribbean world, Dream Drop Distance had a Tron: Legacy world. While there is a larger gap between the films release and its Kingdom Hearts outing than there was for Disney Infinity, it still felt incredibly advertorial when a game generally focused on revisiting the classics would suddenly drop us in that big film of last summer that nobody really liked.
As a smaller example, Capcom releasing the Disney Afternoon Collection, which includes a release of the DuckTales NES games, the same year we get a reboot of the DuckTales cartoon, probably isnt a coincidence.
And so here we are at why Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite will probably fail. The rest of the games felt incredibly reverent of its source materials, both on the Capcom and Marvel sides. But now, with its full character roster potentially leaked, it feels like an empty shell fit to be crammed full of characters you can then go and see on the big screen.
It turns the game into a cynical cash-grab, a tie-in game as opposed to the celebration of Capcom and Marvel it should be. Every character on Disneys site of the screen comes with the unwritten note of from Marvels Cinematic Universe, in cinemas now!, and I really hate that. Cinematic tie-in characters are fine, but when theyre at the expense of series regulars like Storm or She-Hulk, it very much isnt fine. Id love to see Capcom stick Wolverine back in, in his yellow superhero suit, calling everyone bub.
Except they cant, because Disney cant sell that.
source-
http://letsplayvideogames.com/2017/...s-games-by-treating-them-like-advertisements/
TRUE ORDER
Member
Did Dante's face changed or is the same from the reveal trailer? It looks a little better in that render, maybe because of his position though...
Glad to see Chun Li been fixed a bit, but she still looks weird IMO.
I wonder how the game will do once it comes out, negavity is still in the air for the most part.
Glad to see Chun Li been fixed a bit, but she still looks weird IMO.
I wonder how the game will do once it comes out, negavity is still in the air for the most part.
As one of the few people in this topic who's a big enough fan of the franchise and the character to have hoped vehemently for Spencer's return I do agree that they could've changed his outfit to his Rad Spencer design and no one would've cared. Hell I think more people would've been happy about it. Every time I replay BC09 I do so with the alternate costume which alone makes it feel much more authentic, and I don't even really mind the dreads design - the alternative is just better.
I still think the best design he's had though is Shinkiro's unused retro design that was originally supposed to be the basis of the alternate costume in BC09, before they just settled for just reusing the Rearmed design. It felt much more accurate to the original NES design where Rad had an almost Captain Commando-styled hair.
Nonetheless I'm glad they're incorporating a few more moves from his games like the frag grenade and making his level 3 a direct homage to 09's final boss (despite awkward animation). Even though I felt he was a good and unique character of his own it felt a little bit disappointing that they didn't actually incorporate a lot of signature things from his games such as his firearms, so at least adding something to him is a welcome addition.
I still think the best design he's had though is Shinkiro's unused retro design that was originally supposed to be the basis of the alternate costume in BC09, before they just settled for just reusing the Rearmed design. It felt much more accurate to the original NES design where Rad had an almost Captain Commando-styled hair.
Nonetheless I'm glad they're incorporating a few more moves from his games like the frag grenade and making his level 3 a direct homage to 09's final boss (despite awkward animation). Even though I felt he was a good and unique character of his own it felt a little bit disappointing that they didn't actually incorporate a lot of signature things from his games such as his firearms, so at least adding something to him is a welcome addition.
RagingAvatar
Member
They really need to sort out Captain America's ridiculous ears.
chocolate disco
Neo Member
Lego Marvel Super Heroes 2?
sixteen-bit
Member
could be, but it could be a lighting and shader fix too possibly
Cap is the one character that needs a ground-up redesign. Model has always been worse than Chun (if Chun had eye brows from the jump it would have been a non-issue TBH).
bangbang i'm a timpani
Banned
thats the entire launch cast? then they're gauging us with 6 probably on disc dlcs?
this game is such a disaster
this game is such a disaster
Days of Futures Past not learnt, Cacpcom to repeat them.
Mix Master
Member
Frank looks like Homer Simpson.
Cap looks like he overdosed on steroids
Cap looks like he overdosed on steroids
The Broken Ska Record
Member
Disneys killing its games by treating them like advertisements
by Joe Parlock
Last year, Disney cancelled its toys-to-life game Disney Infinity, and, along with it, its entire console publishing division. Other than licensing to other developers and mobile games, Disney is out of the games business.
And yet, somehow, it still manages to screw up how it does games.
People are not happy with what weve seen so far of Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite. As a long-awaited follow-up to the much-loved MvC series, Capcom and Disney had a lot of work to do to win over fans, but even then most conversations of the game have been dominated by criticisms: the art-style is ugly, the simplified gameplay doesnt gel with the rest of the series, the story is nonsense, and, most importantly, the roster just isnt up to scratch.
The Marvel side of Infinite is entirely comprised characters found in the Marvel Cinematic Universe. Not a single member of the X-men is anywhere to be seen, and theres no Shuma-Gorath, Taskmaster, or She-Hulk from Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3, either. Instead we get Ant-man, Rocket Racoon and Groot, every member of the Avengers (except Black Widow, funnily enough), and even baddies like Ultron and Thanos. Even Captain Marvel, whose film isnt even out yet, gets a slot.
And this is where Disneys major failing with games lies; it sees them entirely as vessels to promote their newest IPs instead of a celebration of what makes it so great. When it comes to games, Disney very rarely looks back more than a few years, and just picks whatever its trying to sell tickets and Blu-ray copies of at the time of launch.
This is more than likely what killed Disney Infinity, beside the exorbitant cost of producing a toys-to-life game. The very first edition of the game launched with a tie-in for its hot new film, The Lone Ranger. That Lone Ranger film that was godawful, commercially tanked, and is never spoken about these days, but had a decent amount of funding dedicated to cramming it into Infinity.
The future expansions did this even more, with Disney Infinity 2.0 dedicated to showing the world hey gang, we own Marvel now!, and 3.0 being all things Star Wars to coincide with the release of The Force Awakens. While each update did come with a few classic characters, they were generally centered on whatever Disney was doing at the time. In 2.0 if it wasnt Marvel, it was Maleficent (another film nobody cares about anymore) and Big Hero 6. 3.0 was accompanied by a literal landslide of Inside Out, Zootopia, and even more Marvel to tie in with Captain America: Civil War.
While this decision to sell the new, unproven characters instead of long-established and well-loved ones was probably a major factor in Disney Infinitys death, Disneys been doing this for years before the Infinity series even came along. Kingdom Hearts, a wildly successful set of games, still has themed worlds that coincided with new releases at the time of their launch Kingdom Hearts 2 had a Pirates of the Caribbean world, Dream Drop Distance had a Tron: Legacy world. While there is a larger gap between the films release and its Kingdom Hearts outing than there was for Disney Infinity, it still felt incredibly advertorial when a game generally focused on revisiting the classics would suddenly drop us in that big film of last summer that nobody really liked.
As a smaller example, Capcom releasing the Disney Afternoon Collection, which includes a release of the DuckTales NES games, the same year we get a reboot of the DuckTales cartoon, probably isnt a coincidence.
And so here we are at why Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite will probably fail. The rest of the games felt incredibly reverent of its source materials, both on the Capcom and Marvel sides. But now, with its full character roster potentially leaked, it feels like an empty shell fit to be crammed full of characters you can then go and see on the big screen.
It turns the game into a cynical cash-grab, a tie-in game as opposed to the celebration of Capcom and Marvel it should be. Every character on Disneys site of the screen comes with the unwritten note of from Marvels Cinematic Universe, in cinemas now!, and I really hate that. Cinematic tie-in characters are fine, but when theyre at the expense of series regulars like Storm or She-Hulk, it very much isnt fine. Id love to see Capcom stick Wolverine back in, in his yellow superhero suit, calling everyone bub.
Except they cant, because Disney cant sell that.
source-
http://letsplayvideogames.com/2017/...s-games-by-treating-them-like-advertisements/
That article is terrible.
TheSpoiler
Member
Simplified gameplay 🤔🤔🤔🤔
As one of the few people in this topic who's a big enough fan of the franchise and the character to have hoped vehemently for Spencer's return I do agree that they could've changed his outfit to his Rad Spencer design and no one would've cared. Hell I think more people would've been happy about it. Every time I replay BC09 I do so with the alternate costume which alone makes it feel much more authentic, and I don't even really mind the dreads design - the alternative is just better.
I still think the best design he's had though is Shinkiro's unused retro design that was originally supposed to be the basis of the alternate costume in BC09, before they just settled for just reusing the Rearmed design. It felt much more accurate to the original NES design where Rad had an almost Captain Commando-styled hair.
Nonetheless I'm glad they're incorporating a few more moves from his games like the frag grenade and making his level 3 a direct homage to 09's final boss (despite awkward animation). Even though I felt he was a good and unique character of his own it felt a little bit disappointing that they didn't actually incorporate a lot of signature things from his games such as his firearms, so at least adding something to him is a welcome addition.
That looks like a great design wish Commando looked like this. Why did Capcom mess up Bionic Commando looks so bad it baffles me
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Well, now we just found out that we have a hidden newcomer that we don't deserve!
His name is
Source: http://www.capcom.co.jp/mvci/character/frank-west.html
His name is
Source: http://www.capcom.co.jp/mvci/character/frank-west.html
lucebuce12
Member
Capcpom strikes again.
Turbanator
Member
Bone-claw is getting competition for best clone character.Well, now we just found out that we have a hidden newcomer that we don't deserve!
His name is
Source: http://www.capcom.co.jp/mvci/character/frank-west.html
PadWarrior
Member
At least sentinel and shuma gorath aren't back.
Mix Master
Member
I take that back, Frank looks like hank azaria!
Turbanator
Member
I can't wait for Wolveline.
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