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Marvel's The Defenders |OT| Featuring The Worst Iron Fist - August 18th on Netflix
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Kadayi
Banned
Yeah, it's definitely a choice by the writers, it just seems like a completely bizarre one. Honestly, I don't get what the intent is. If he's not training, he generally meditating, so why they paint him out to be an odious easily provoked me me me!! asshole just seems outlandish. Sure he might now yet be a fully realised Iron Fist, but he should have some sense of self-control and awareness beyond his emotions at this juncture after years of training.
HOTDOG_GMF
Member
Haters gonna hate hate hate.
I loved The Defenders and all the other Marvel shows, can't wait for the next one! (The Punisher)
I loved The Defenders and all the other Marvel shows, can't wait for the next one! (The Punisher)
People that don't like things I do are haters
Shin K Dash
Member
I find that field of thought incredibly childish
LumpOfCole
Member
The difference in writing and the art of establishing a threatening villain between DD S1 and Defenders is really jarring. Fisk was more threatening offscreen and sitting in restaurants than Alexandria was during any moment in Defenders.
ColdLasagna
Member
It is a good show.
Great?
Nah...
But it fills that need to watch some shit.
Great?
Nah...
But it fills that need to watch some shit.
GravityInsanity
Member
Just finished episode 1 and Iron Fist is already the worst thing about this show. His acting is not believable at all. The other three are fine.
Shin K Dash
Member
This. Bad writing but character interaction can be great sometimes
Basically.
lucebuce12
Member
Getting close to the end of the season and while its got its fair share of issues, I'm enjoying it a lot more than the last couple of Marvel Netflix shows. The shorter episode count leads to much less dead air and a quicker pace to things and the ensemble cast allows everyone to bounce off each other which makes things generally a lot more interesting to watch or at least a bit more varied. The Hand also make for a better threat this time around and Sigourney Weaver makes for a good villain though
Not great but its watchable.
of course they've got to kill her off.
jack_package_200
Banned
DD S1 > Jessica Jones > DD S2 > Luke Cage = The Defenders >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Iron Fist
Kadayi
Banned
Yeah, I know what you mean.
By any measure, he should be brushing off regulation bad guys with ease, especially after the fight between himself and Danny, where Danny had to deploy the Iron Fist to even impact him.
I don't get the impression the writers have a clear handle on each characters respective powers in relation to either themselves, each other or the world as a whole, or perhaps they're afraid to commit in the event they write themselves into a corner
I don't get the impression the writers have a clear handle on each characters respective powers in relation to either themselves, each other or the world as a whole, or perhaps they're afraid to commit in the event they write themselves into a corner
Two episodes in right now and honestly, I'm loving it.
Particularly loved the end of the first episode -
It's not great, and I really doubt it's going to hit the highs of DD or JJ, but it's just a lot of fun seeing the characters bounce around. It's like... I dunno, a sample platter. Just a quick bite of everyone from the past few shows.
Some of the dialogue has been truly awful, though. Like, that whole conversation that Danny and Colleen had in the helicopter was like... generically awful, and delivered in a super stilted way. A lot of it just feels generic, churned out. Cox brings tons of heart to Matt in any context, and Ritter makes bitchiness an artform, so they do a good job carrying on even when the material's week. But Colter and Jones fall pretty flat whenever their dialogue falters.
But the novelty of "HEY IT'S THOSE GUYS FROM THOSE SHOWS!" still hasn't worn off for me, so like I said, I'm loving it.
Particularly loved the end of the first episode -
the whole "earthquake happens, cuts to show what everyone's doing" is the most comic book scene ever. Seems JUST like the ending you'd see in Marvel Event Issue #1.
It's not great, and I really doubt it's going to hit the highs of DD or JJ, but it's just a lot of fun seeing the characters bounce around. It's like... I dunno, a sample platter. Just a quick bite of everyone from the past few shows.
Some of the dialogue has been truly awful, though. Like, that whole conversation that Danny and Colleen had in the helicopter was like... generically awful, and delivered in a super stilted way. A lot of it just feels generic, churned out. Cox brings tons of heart to Matt in any context, and Ritter makes bitchiness an artform, so they do a good job carrying on even when the material's week. But Colter and Jones fall pretty flat whenever their dialogue falters.
But the novelty of "HEY IT'S THOSE GUYS FROM THOSE SHOWS!" still hasn't worn off for me, so like I said, I'm loving it.
-Pyromaniac-
Member
I actually liked this season a lot more than I thought I would. Blesssss.
giant_frying_pan
Member
Ep 1
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I did the (suggested by someone on here...) watch only Ep 01 and E13 of Iron Fist and I don't think I missed out on too much! It was actually way less confusing than I had hoped for and....the finale of IF was the best use of Claire thus far, imo (in a non-Daredevil series).
The Luke hoodie up cut into Jessica hoodie down was very nice!
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I did the (suggested by someone on here...) watch only Ep 01 and E13 of Iron Fist and I don't think I missed out on too much! It was actually way less confusing than I had hoped for and....the finale of IF was the best use of Claire thus far, imo (in a non-Daredevil series).
What? No way...
You kinda proved his point. That was in his own show. In Defenders he gets kicked around and knocked down a bunch. I thought they somewhat nerfed his power here too.
End show spoilers.
Elektra knocked him out by kicking him. lol
I wish they had explained what made the Black Sky so special 'cus she kinda got her ass kicked by DD at the end and before that beat everyone in ways that didn't seem all that special.
I wish they had explained what made the Black Sky so special 'cus she kinda got her ass kicked by DD at the end and before that beat everyone in ways that didn't seem all that special.
I thought it was obvious that I agreed with him using that GIF lol
why my boy Luke always have hip-hop playing in every single scene he's in
My bad sarcasm didn't come through in text lol
Yeah that was laughable
Shin K Dash
Member
Martial Arts > Super Powers
didn't you get the memo?
didn't you get the memo?
Alpha Centauri
Member
Like every single time. Yes we get it Marvel, LC is a big black guy from Harlem.
I agree with ya'll He was way too nerfed.
Vyse The Legend
Member
JJ's fluctuating strength remains the most baffling thing in the Marvel Netflix universe. She should be the strongest in the group, bar none, especially since she has no combat skills. Luke's primary contribution to the group should be his indestructible nature, not being the muscle.
Last episode spoiler:
All the characters are getting another standalone season. It stands to reason that there would be one more Defenders after them.
Last episode spoiler:
JJ holding the elevator was the only time she appears stronger than Luke.
All the characters are getting another standalone season. It stands to reason that there would be one more Defenders after them.
cj_iwakura
Member
Given that the ongoing comic has a better story(not that it's any major achievement), hopefully pretty high.
WickedLaharl
Member
All that build up for the hole and wall only to have what was behind it end up looking like a movie set ripped from mortal kombat.
Damn the hand ended up being lame af.
Damn the hand ended up being lame af.
dancingphlower
Member
I think I enjoyed it for the novelty of seeing everyone come together and calling out Danny for being a punk. But the editing was pretty atrocious in some of the later fights and the villains were all pretty undercooked. Definitely doesn't reach the heights of Daredevil Season 1.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
Luke can take fucking bullets. Why Dodge people swinging swords at you? Let them just break that shit on you.
Or at least make them magic swords or something.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
You guys should label your spoilers like the OP says. Most people aren't going to blindly click on random spoilers. Is the spoiler from the first episode, or the last? Who knows!?
Vyse The Legend
Member
Thanks for the heads-up. Amended my post.
Thanks, I edited my post.