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Amy Schumer insisted Netflix pay her the same as Chris Rock or Dave Chappelle

entremet

entremet

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Aeana said:
Women get paid less than men -> "well maybe they should learn to negotiate like men do!"

Woman negotiates for higher pay, is successful -> "fuck that she doesn't deserve it!"
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Yeah. This is not about the quality of her work but her business and negotiation savvy.
 
Grizzlyjin

Grizzlyjin

Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Somebody needs to hide Netflix's checkbook. They're paying over $20 million for standup comedy specials? Are those really that valuable? Even with big names, I find it really hard to believe that enough people watch standup comedy to make the economics of that gel. I say that as someone who watched a lot of standup comedy lol
 
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excelsiorlef

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Aeana said:
Women get paid less than men -> "well maybe they should learn to negotiate like men do!"

Woman negotiates for higher pay, is successful -> "fuck that she doesn't deserve it!"
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Yep.

And literally she saw what they were getting asked for more and... got it.

But fuck her and all that jazz I guess...
 
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NYCmetsfan

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ForkNetwork said:
Im all about that equal pay, but does Schumer have the critical and public acclaim that someone like Chappelle has?
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Her show lasted longer, She stared in a far more successful movie, wrote a number 1 best seller, been nominated for Emmys and an Oscar (Chappelle has had neither).

Glad she got the pay day she deserved
 
entremet

entremet

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Grizzlyjin said:
Somebody needs to hide Netflix's checkbook. They're paying over $20 million for standup comedy specials? Are those really that valuable? Even with big names, I find it really hard to believe that enough people watch standup comedy to make the economics of that gel. I say that as someone who watched a lot of standup comedy lol
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They own them forever in their catalog, on demand. It’s an investment.
 
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DizzyCaffeine

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Grizzlyjin said:
Somebody needs to hide Netflix's checkbook. They're paying over $20 million for standup comedy specials? Are those really that valuable? Even with big names, I find it really hard to believe that enough people watch standup comedy to make the economics of that gel. I say that as someone who watched a lot of standup comedy lol
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They're trying to own the entire stand up comedy space. Like seriously, all of it. It's a big F U to HBO.
 
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double jump

you haven't lived until a random little kid ask you "how do you make love".
Good on her but Netflix is dumb if they did it.

Shit, can I have a deal Netflix ?
 
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shintoki

sparkle this bitch
Man, the sexism in this thread.

She wanted to get paid as much as men do. She negotiation and did it. Good for her.
 
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TyrantII

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You charge what the market will bear.

Good for her.

They better be her best work, or it'll backfire. But thats anyone.
 
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iammeiam

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The Variety article this is pulled from is a really good read, and talks about the widespread compensation inequality where women and minorities are concerned.

Some stuff:
Brown refuses to identify the show on which she was paid the same as a white male guest star, but she's clear it wasn't her new series, ABC's ”The Mayor," or her first as a regular cast member, NBC's ”Community."

She recalls sitting in a hair-and-makeup trailer, joking with her fellow actors about pay, when a guest star ”just blurted out" what he was making for the episode.

”I was like, ‘That's five dollars less than me,'" Brown tells Variety. ”It's not like this was Tom Cruise. If Tom Cruise comes, back up the Brinks truck. This was a journeyman actor. He wasn't performing a series-regular role." Brown soon realized she was making far less than the other series regulars on the show, ”because no one else in the room was shocked" by what the guest star earned. ”I've been a series regular now for eight years on network television, and I'm making what a guy coming for a week is making," Brown says. ”And it's because I'm a black woman."
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”I've passed on jobs because I was going to get paid the same as somebody who had fewer lines than me and was male," says Eliza Coupe, who stars in ”Future Man," an upcoming Hulu sci-fi series. ”Actually two projects."

Coupe turned down those offers, which preceded ”Future Man," with gusto. In each case, her representatives made clear to producers exactly why she was rejecting them.
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The imbalance isn't isolated to broadcast — the massive amounts of money being spent by streaming services on original programming don't translate to equal pay. Speaking at the Rockefeller Foundation last year, ”House of Cards" star Robin Wright told an audience that she had secured a raise that would put her on an even plane with Kevin Spacey, her co-star in the Sony-produced Netflix drama. Months later, she told United Airlines' inflight magazine Rhapsody that she had not, in fact, achieved parity with Spacey, saying, ”I really don't like being duped."
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And the Schumer bit:
Amy Schumer couldn't have been hotter as a personality when she set a deal last year to star in a comedy special for Netflix, ”The Leather Special," which premiered in March. But when Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle made headlines for commanding eye-popping deals for $20 million per special, Schumer's team went back to Netflix and flatly asked for more money. According to a source, Schumer was initially paid about $11 million for her special. She received significantly more compensation after she raised the question of fairness relative to the Rock and Chappelle deals.
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Good on her and every other woman pushing back tbh.
 
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New002

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Not gonna lie I personally don't put her on the same level as those guys, but whatever. If she brings in the viewers/numbers that's what matters. And if she does then she deserves to get paid just as much.
 
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Cynar

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Aeana said:
Women get paid less than men -> "well maybe they should learn to negotiate like men do!"

Woman negotiates for higher pay, is successful -> "fuck that she doesn't deserve it!"
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Not even, she's not as humourous as the others mentioned. I'm glad she has strong negotiating skills but she's a b rank comedian.
 
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Hazmat

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If she got paid, good for her. My opinion is that Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle went years and years without standup specials, so their big paydays likely reflect that. Of course, I'm 33 and think Rock and Chappelle are two of the best standups ever and Amy Schumer isn't, and I'm likely not representative of a big chunk of the Netflix audience.
 
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EternalDarko

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Good on her for getting more money. But this is not about gender equality and purely about negotiation tactics.
If Amy's able to do that after the fact of a contract being signed, then Dave should go back to Netflix and demand considerably more money.
Cos as ok of a comedian as Amy is, Dave is fucking god tier.
 
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Ninja Scooter

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Cynar said:
Not even, she's not as humourous as the others mentioned. I'm glad she has strong negotiating skills but she's a b rank comedian.
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Whether or not she is humorous is entirely subjective and not at all the point of the article or relevant to the discussion honestly. The comparison to Rock/Chappelle in this context is to their ability to draw viewers, not in comedic skill, which seems to be something people are too dense to figure out.

I think Adam Sandler is about as funny as a nail through the dick but if the numbers he pulls in for NEtflix are true, he's worth every bit of the tens of millions of dollars they pay him. That's how it works. You can be funny as fuck but if don't draw an audience you ain't worth shit.
 
Sapiens

Sapiens

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When this gender pay inequity discussion gets to the the levels of 11 and 20 million dollars for people who work five days a year, I really lose interest.
 
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Aeana

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Cynar said:
Not even, she's not as humourous as the others mentioned. I'm glad she has strong negotiating skills but she's a b rank comedian.
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Netflix isn't concerned with whether she's as funny as them, only with whether she can pull in a similarly sized audience. It sounds like she did.
 
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