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Paragon Open Beta Thead | PC x PS4

Is there a way to view how much power I have in a match? There's some cards I build often that increase my power every minute, and another one that increases my power based on mana -- but it's really hard to know if I can get rid of them since I have no idea how much power I have.
 
Is there a way to view how much power I have in a match? There's some cards I build often that increase my power every minute, and another one that increases my power based on mana -- but it's really hard to know if I can get rid of them since I have no idea how much power I have.

I THINK you can hover over a card that gives you power and it will show your current power?
 
I'm playing with Countess a lot lately and she's pretty counterable, is just people don't do it and build pure damage, it's a party for me most of the time.

Pick Belica or damage return or reduction cards and it's gg for her.
 

Toni

Member
I'm playing with Countess a lot lately and she's pretty counterable, is just people don't do it and build pure damage, it's a party for me most of the time.

Pick Belica or damage return or reduction cards and it's gg for her.

Thing is with her, once she gets ability boost damage cards / slilence, she can do 2 to 1.

A Countess with Red Zone is unstopable and can easily go 4 to 1 and 1-shot every single ranger on the map with her Ult and Dark Tide.

My Ult does 2,300 damage and Dark Tide does 1,200 damage without Prime or river buff.

No matter how powerful a Belica is, her existence on the map serves to feed Countess kills.

Same goes for ANY ranger, Wukong and Aurora which are the ones I can 1-shot from what I have tested out with this build.

She is ridiculous with the right cards. The ONLY counter that I can tell you right now, as a Countess main, is a late-game Serath with Life Steal, Thorned Yomi and Sacred Alchemy.

A good Serath can wreck Countess with those 3 cards and the right gems. And more if I encounter that Serath with half my health and after having use my Ult on somebody else.

Its a game of opportunity against Countess.
 

Turkoop

Banned
Countess is officially the strongest fighter in Paragon. And comfortably.

As a Countess main, everybody is looking like a nice meal right now. ;)

1-shot for everybody.
How can you be happy about this? Countess has ruined the whole balance and makes everything worse. Many people stopped playing the game since the Countess, Kallari etc.
I'm playing with Countess a lot lately and she's pretty counterable, is just people don't do it and build pure damage, it's a party for me most of the time.

Pick Belica or damage return or reduction cards and it's gg for her.
No, she's still too strong. There's a vid where she kills the whole team within 4 seconds.
The whole team.
4 SECONDS
 

delSai

Member
Even Twinblast can kill a team in a few seconds. As soon as someone stepped up to him they were already dead. It's really no fun.

Stupid Multishot Gem and Attack Speed. And fuck the card that turns you invisible too
 

Toni

Member
How can you be happy about this? Countess has ruined the whole balance and makes everything worse. Many people stopped playing the game since the Countess, Kallari etc.

No, she's still too strong. There's a vid where she kills the whole team within 4 seconds.
The whole team.
4 SECONDS

I stopped using her altogether since she is easy mode. lol

And I do recognise that she is indeed extremely broken and adds no substance to this game late to mid game. Since a Countess player becomes kill-hungry very quick once he/she realises all the power they've attained.

I'm working to see if I can perfect Serath's build so that I can 100% rely on her to counter Countess (heeey that rhymes :p ) when a enemy player picks her and she is ranked 1+.

You guys...pick Serath with Sacred Achemy, Vampiric Blade (ONLY if you see a Countess with Red Zone, other wise use Guard Piercer) and Malenk's Tribute with Life steal gems, Return Damage and Damage reduction and basic attacks have a chance of doing critical damage gems. (Order & Death affinities)

This is a tank build with 1k shiields for Serath that makes SHORT work of Jesus Countess. You will have a tank that hits like a truck AND 1k shields with Life Steal activation if things get trippy.

This is the only build in the game I have seen that can evaporize Countess since she is very squishy and survive her abilities with Life Steal.

You CAN TRY this build if you want on another melee combatant with good tank capabilities and good basic damage output. Most preferably, Yin or Grux. I have not tried this build on another character yet.

Feel free to do so when a Countess is picked and post your results.
 

Toni

Member
Good. Let it be as useless as Zinx was after getting nerfed.

Agree!.

But Zynx is getting a buff tomorrow as well. She will hit harder & recover mana fast. Also, her Kitty Claws will use less mana.

SPAM DAT with Multishot.
 

Eggbok

Member
Thing is with her, once she gets ability boost damage cards / slilence, she can do 2 to 1.

A Countess with Red Zone is unstopable and can easily go 4 to 1 and 1-shot every single ranger on the map with her Ult and Dark Tide.

My Ult does 2,300 damage and Dark Tide does 1,200 damage without Prime or river buff.

No matter how powerful a Belica is, her existence on the map serves to feed Countess kills.

Same goes for ANY ranger, Wukong and Aurora which are the ones I can 1-shot from what I have tested out with this build.

She is ridiculous with the right cards. The ONLY counter that I can tell you right now, as a Countess main, is a late-game Serath with Life Steal, Thorned Yomi and Sacred Alchemy.

A good Serath can wreck Countess with those 3 cards and the right gems. And more if I encounter that Serath with half my health and after having use my Ult on somebody else.

Its a game of opportunity against Countess.

dk who is playing Belica on your team but they must be shit. I've been maining Belica and Countess is easy to counter especially if she;s in front of you. I've got the timing down to a science. She's only a problem for me if she's using Shadow Dance but even if she uses her ult i can basically do this to either kill her or damage her enough for her to back off.

This is from a game I played today, poopy PS4 gif but yeah lol.
Timing is everything! I'll probably make a better gif.

MerryOrderlyBirdofparadise-size_restricted.gif
 
Well, time to learn a new character. Wukong got hit really hard with the nerf stick and I don't know if he's worth playing now. I don't even see how reducing all of his stats is fair for balance. He was already squishy early game and now he loses out on the risk/reward on his gold farm passive. I don't think you'll be seeing many Wukongs any more.

I'm pretty sure Aurora or Narbash will be in my future. That new Dune Winds card looks amazing for Narbash specifically.
 

Eggbok

Member
First pvp game as Drongo, went 14 - 3, he's so good. Revenant has been replaced in my heart lol.

Well, time to learn a new character. Wukong got hit really hard with the nerf stick and I don't know if he's worth playing now. I don't even see how reducing all of his stats is fair for balance. He was already squishy early game and now he loses out on the risk/reward on his gold farm passive. I don't think you'll be seeing many Wukongs any more.

I'm pretty sure Aurora or Narbash will be in my future. That new Dune Winds card looks amazing for Narbash specifically.

They need to buff Aurora a bit, I have no idea why they decided to cut her ice ring time down but it sucks. It was good for defending towers before but it lasts like 2 seconds now. Her ult is also kinda weak imo, Countess' ult can take over half of your health. Aurora's is like a good 1-2/4 of someones health.
 

Ploid 3.0

Member
I should buy boosts, I didn't even think about that. Been multitask grinding lately. Almost rank 10 Muriel. I have 2 tokens ready for whoever. I need to find another easy character to rank up after Muriel 11. I'm still not touching people I had no mastery for before v4.2. Buying 10 masteries, 5 at 500k rep is too much for me.
 

Kalentan

Member
Was really hoping to get the remaining cards I needed after they changed the level requirement but while I did get new cards I got mostly duplicates. So many duplicates even in the 7 Diamond chests I opened.
 

GraveRobberX

Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Damn 400 coins each for 30 day xp and Rep boosts...

LOL

So they were overpriced for so long, now they lower the prices up to what should've been standard

800 for both, have 32,000 coins... So... 40 months of double xp and Rep
Damn 3 and 1/3rd years worth lol, will the game even be around then, would it be a MOBA still with our 6 month transformations
 

molnizzle

Member
Damn 400 coins each for 30 day xp and Rep boosts...

LOL

So they were overpriced for so long, now they lower the prices up to what should've been standard

800 for both, have 32,000 coins... So... 40 months of double xp and Rep
Damn 3 and 1/3rd years worth lol, will the game even be around then, would it be a MOBA still with our 6 month transformations

Can get "Mastery tokens" as rewards now too. Unlock a level of mastery for free.
 

Ploid 3.0

Member
I wish I only spent coins on boosts. I sure as heck didn't get anything with the loot chests and keys I bought.

My first few games with the 100% boost are glorious. 4k+ exp per game. Such a boost to my grind. First master skin incoming.
 

molnizzle

Member
I wish I only spent coins on boosts. I sure as heck didn't get anything with the loot chests and keys I bought.

My first few games with the 100% boost are glorious. 4k+ exp per game. Such a boost to my grind. First master skin incoming.

Boost is all I ever spend coins on. It's easily the best bang for your buck.
 

Ploid 3.0

Member
I just got another tier 3 skin since my pink Steel, and it's a Pink Iggy Mech.


At least this one is like a pink tint on metal. Not as strong as cloth or something like Wraith's Pink Tier 2. The only other options is a chrome, and a rust. The Winter Holiday skin looks a bit cooler I think. Maybe I'll take up Iggy to 10 next now that he's brought down a bit and the nerf wasn't bad.

Yeah, metal skin seems neat, but Iggy just seems to be a part of Scorch. He blends in too well. I'm looking forward to the Chocobo Iggy/Scorch. That will be beautiful.
 
Yup. The fact that they didn't even touch Countess is insane. I can't believe it. And I see people saying, "You can just counter her." True. But countering her is harder than countering Wukong, Kwang, Iggy, etc. But they nerfed them and left her totally alone. It is the dumbest thing ever and proves, once again, that they don't play their own game. She can kill almost anybody with one hit and clear a giant wave of minions with 1 hit as well. IT IS DUMB.
 

charsace

Member
Yup. The fact that they didn't even touch Countess is insane. I can't believe it. And I see people saying, "You can just counter her." True. But countering her is harder than countering Wukong, Kwang, Iggy, etc. But they nerfed them and left her totally alone. It is the dumbest thing ever and proves, once again, that they don't play their own game. She can kill almost anybody with one hit and clear a giant wave of minions with 1 hit as well. IT IS DUMB.
Pretty much. The ratings for characters mean nothing. Two moves and she kills you. Even if you get to the tower she can kill you without stepping on to the platform. Just insane.

Wukong still broken too. Same walk forward build still works for him.
 

Spinluck

Member
I don't think Countess is broken at the moment.

You just can't let her get ahead.

She has no true escape and is easily gankable.
 
Who is a counter. Steele?

She is broke in terms of damage dealing. She can pick up safe kills when you are next to a tower with her wave clear which does stupid damage.

Steel, Narbash, Belica, she doesn't have the sustainablitlity to deal with a tank Shinbi...there are counters out there. She dies so easily they can't nerf her damage. That is why she is an assassin.
 

charsace

Member
Steel, Narbash, Belica, she doesn't have the sustainablitlity to deal with a tank Shinbi...there are counters out there. She dies so easily they can't nerf her damage. That is why she is an assassin.

The problem is that in pub matches people feed her kills by trying to take her 1v1 and then she gets ahead. IMO her wave clear needs the damage lowered. It does way to much damage and gives her a safe way to kill people next to towers.
 

molnizzle

Member
The problem is that in pub matches people feed her kills by trying to take her 1v1 and then she gets ahead. IMO her wave clear needs the damage lowered. It does way to much damage and gives her a safe way to kill people next to towers.

I don't know if Epic is balancing the game around pubs though. Hopefully they're not.

I'm not the greatest player, but tanky Auroras and Belicas give me tons of trouble as Countess.
 

Spinluck

Member
One CC attack she is dead. Just need one counter pick in the draft and she is easily taken care of.

Belica is the anti caster, she fucks up any character or player who is too mana reliant.

There's nothing like baiting a Countesses into her Shadows Slip attack, silencing her with Sleeper Agent, landing Bel's knock up and bomb, and then throwing down her drone and ulting (if Count's Mana is low though). It's just disgusting. Only Caster that I think really gives Belica issues is a Morigesh who watches her mana.
 

Spinluck

Member
Who is a counter. Steele?

She is broke in terms of damage dealing. She can pick up safe kills when you are next to a tower with her wave clear which does stupid damage.

Belica can easily counter a Countess dive.


You just have to always keep her Shadow Slip in mine and punish her whenever she does it. Especially when she uses it to initiate a tower dive. That's an easy kill.
 
I don't think Countess is broken at the moment.

You just can't let her get ahead.

She has no true escape and is easily gankable.

One CC attack she is dead. Just need one counter pick in the draft and she is easily taken care of.

So why nerf the others? I play Iggy a lot and when I'm playing against him the counter is REAL simple... Take his turrets out. But they needed him. Counted requires you to pick a totally different character. Insane.

And it's stupid that she can teleport into a tower, one shot you and teleport back out, taking MAYBE one hit from the tower. I think the worst part about her though is that dumb card that makes you invisible. It's dumb.
 
Has anyone tried Ansel with this game? I've captured a few 4k images but I've found the images to be a little blurry, maybe I need to go to higher res's and see what the IQ is like then.
 
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