Most likely. He's a good person that speaks out against discrimination anytime.
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Most likely. He's a good person that speaks out against discrimination anytime.
We're the cesspool for condemning fuckers using the N word? Or course.
Probably a good reason to not make lists like this.
What's your point, that people should ignore what he said cause of his audience?
Shouldn't Twitch and PUBG speak out as well?
Like a temporary suspension at least. Racism has to be against the ToS.
Interfectum
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We are snowflakes and a part of a 'cult' because we think racist shitbags shouldn't have a platform.
Serious question, did you guys at least read ALL of his tweet about this bullshit or just hottake that tweet chain so you can put certain hat on TB?
DeadOnions
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Angry Joe atleast condemned PDP so there's one who hasn't joined in defending him.
It's pretty pathetic how these Youtubers are courting the alt-right audience. They won't condemn PDP and claim they are in the "middle" but wait for a diversity in games issue to crop and they all come out to call it bullshit.
I can think of few things that are less interesting. People's obsession with "graveyard" threads is corny as hell.
ClosingADoor
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Amazing. Dude is just straight up playing the victim here. How dare people ask him to speak up about the issues in the community he makes a living from.
Boogie's response to this baffles me to such a degree, it's insane. I'm gonna do what he says he always wants to do and assume the best of him, but the best I can come up with is dangerous stupidity.
Calling this "personal politics" and coming out of this incident worried that content creators can legally have some form of control over what their brand is used to do, while millions of children get exposed to this.
Come on.
Yeah... Youtube at the very least needs content warnings and better parental controls options.
Calling this "personal politics" and coming out of this incident worried that content creators can legally have some form of control over what their brand is used to do, while millions of children get exposed to this.
Come on.
Yeah... Youtube at the very least needs content warnings and better parental controls options.
Nope, just stating that this wont affect his superstar status and that his youtube page will probably continue to have millions of fans, its not the first time he had done shit like this and his popularity just grew up, thats why i talked about the fanbase age.
Glad to see these YouTubers are showing themselves for what they really are more and more. Makes it easier to not accidentally support them if you're not very up to date in regards to their usual behavior. I never watched PDP's videos anyways until the Disney-Nazi thing came up, but I did watch some of Boogie's videos in the past and now I can make sure that doesn't happen again.
StrikeFirst117
Banned
At least read every tweet in the chain before saying this, he clearly has condemned it assuming that was related to the drama watchers on youtube plus the channels that thrive off it.
I know he didn't condemn JonTron and he is shitty for doing that but this time he did condemn the person responsive.
The impact of this happening could be massive to advertisers and could result in many more channels/videos etc being declared ad unfriendly or more advertisers jumping ship from YouTube.
That is the implication of the biggest youtuber doing this publicly.
Guys, there can be multiple reasons for people getting banned, even in this thread.
If you wonder why a specific person got banned, ask mods.
As long as it isn't dicks or boobs, YouTube/Alphabet pretty much tolerates everything.
If you wonder why a specific person got banned, ask mods.
As long as it isn't dicks or boobs, YouTube/Alphabet pretty much tolerates everything.
:Motorbass
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Just wait, we will get alternative "entertainment" channels where this stuff is allowed.
astroturfing
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isnt he like pushing 30 or something?
dude needs to fucking grow up and go back to school or something. embarrassing display of juvenile behavior from an adult. a teenager can be forgiven for racial slurs in heated moments, but he should DEFINITELY know better by now.. oh well, cant take that back. enjoy the backlash.
dude needs to fucking grow up and go back to school or something. embarrassing display of juvenile behavior from an adult. a teenager can be forgiven for racial slurs in heated moments, but he should DEFINITELY know better by now.. oh well, cant take that back. enjoy the backlash.
The Technomancer
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Gee TB I wonder why people wouldn't give you the benefit of the doubt about condemning shitty YouTubers?
RichiRamjag
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Same. Outside of gaf and a couple specific reddits, I want nothing to do with you tubers or let's play people on YouTube anymore. There are some good streamers, but I don't even let my little one watch YouTube any longer because I don't want him mixed up in gaming culture of today at all.
TB and Boogie share the same fence. How anyone still takes TB seriously is beyond me.
This is why you need people speaking out about this.
Look at that rant by TB. He'd happily keep quiet about it under the guise of. "You guys know racism is bad. Why do I need to say anything?" You guys just want a witch hunt, purity bs."
Look at how he responded. Look at what he DIDN'T say about PDP.
Look at that rant by TB. He'd happily keep quiet about it under the guise of. "You guys know racism is bad. Why do I need to say anything?" You guys just want a witch hunt, purity bs."
Look at how he responded. Look at what he DIDN'T say about PDP.
I'm not too sure on how/if he reacted to the JonTron incident. He might've pulled a H3H3 and gone radio silent on the matter. I've never understood the mentality of certain YouTubers circling the wagons when another outs themselves as being despicable; having the JonTrons and the PewDiePies kicked off the platform can only be a good thing for the other heavy hitters.
RichiRamjag
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Guy is a joke with a toxic fan base and he plays up to them. I've been saying this for years.
Death Penalty
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Hm, could you explain this? I'm not a fan of Philip de Franco, but my girlfriend watches him most days and I wasn't aware of any sort of scandal surrounding him and going easy on hate speech.
Nah Boogie has done this time and again. So he decided to jump in without even fully knowing what happened? Using the excuse that PDP and others don't know the weight that word carries?
Boogie could have easily came out and said. "you don't say that shit. Ever. PDP you fucked up" and left it at that.
ClosingADoor
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Seriously, scrolling through his timeline, it's basically whining that people are asking him to speak up, complaining that this will drive more advertisers away and a lot of stuff about copyright claims. Shows his priorities right there.
It's not "Youtubers", it's particular Youtubers who stick to their side/group. Boogie doesn't have a problem about PDP using the n-word. He's upset that it's a big deal that could potentially threaten his income.
You forget what side of GG Bain was on. He doesn't want to lose that base, so he won't say anything.
Weltall Zero
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To be fair, unfortunately a lot of Americans seem to think that people are overreacting too. Lowest common denominator.
As for a right wing politician gaining power and emboldening racists to speak out, that too is a far too common occurrence. I think the latest example is recent enough on everone's minds...
I'm Spanish and I'm pretty sure the average Spaniard reaction is even shittier than Swedes' or Americans'.
PhantomThief
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It IS against the TOS of both Twitch and PUBG. Sadly I doubt they will say something.
It's more of what he "doesn't say" and his thoughts on the Charlottesville events, Trump, etc. That come to mind for me.
He typically thinks condemning people's actions is going overboard and downplays when people mess up. Normalizing/rationalizing racism.
I used to be a fan of his as well, but I can only take his "neutral" position so much.
Interfectum
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Yup, this.
Both Boogie and TB are trying to play the both sides angle bullshit. "bu bu What PDP said was wrong but what's worse are the liberal cult bloodseekers who want to take us all down. wont someone please think of our ad revenue??"
You'd be surprised...
Only place I've seen this discussed is the Feber.se disqus comments for the mini-articel they put up. And the disqus comments seem to overall be a pretty shit place, so nothing really to go by imo. Didn't see a thread about this on either Minhembio (granted much smaller community) or Sweclockers. So I reiterate, nothing much to go by, and of the swedes posting on Neogaf and in this thread, I'm seeing most come out against any notion that this was a simple mistake.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Guys like TB have no guts and little moral fiber if they find it so hard to speak out against racism and hatred. Or maybe he is too damn stupid to understand the value of people speaking out against it. I don't understand the issue he has. Is he afraid of scaring away audience? Does he just naively believe it's not an problem at all? Seems like he lives in a bubble, or he is gutless.
HazySaiyan
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Yeah remember when all that shit went down with JonTron and TB's first instinct was to moan about journalists?
Think of the children: a girl's channel can get axed if she has too much clevage but a racist can keep on saying racist shit.
Yeah i think Calm Mind as well. At least I don't see anything regarding this thread from him that would warrant that.
Agreed.
pewdiepie doesn't stream on twitch as far as i know
Franco takes this ridiculous 'both sides are bad, I'm the intelligent guy in the middle' to extremes. He doesn't dare offend anyone.
As usuall, these people talking about the middle are actually just covering for the fact they don't actually know anything at all, and so adopt this smug, fake intelligent appearance because it's all they can do. Instead of learning about something, they boil everything down to 'both sides bad'. It's critically bankrupt and extremely misleading.
Norwegian_Imposter
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FYI PDP streams on Youtube not twitch. Just thought I would put that out there
nycgamer4ever
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If that is the concern then it's a bit too late for that. Rap exist. Need to ban rap first or ban the use of the word.
Every single social media platform is terrified of making a stand. The only place where the do such a thing is, for example, France and Germany, where Nazism is banned and they have to make a stand by law.
They blatantly have everything they need to do such a thing, they are unwilling to open up the can of worms that such a step would do.
I didn't even think about that. How gross and good point.
You didn't miss anything I read all his tweets and TB's tweets and was deeply offended as expected. These guys are despicable.
SENPAIatLARGE
Banned
Pubg guy has a hands on approach with bans.
StrikeFirst117
Banned
To be fair I don't know much about GG and it is staying that way. I'd rather not get involved/research into that shite.
Maybe is this more related to him being biased to PDP, dunno much other that.
This situation sucks all around because everyone who is monetising on YouTube is going to be penalised more.
I guess it'll just result in more paid promotions, Patreon and other potential revenue streams.
The Technomancer
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He clearly a.) doesn't think its a big deal and b.) thinks he needs to "defend" YouTubers
Death Penalty
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I'm not terribly surprised that he might adopt some of that "The truth is in the middle" nonsense after listening in on some of his stuff with my gal. It may be a bit harsh, but the guy always struck me as a bit of a gutless pseudo-intellectual, which is why I myself never became a fan. It's disappointing to hear that he's quick to excuse racism, but a bit of a relief to hear that my girlfriend isn't listening to someone spewing outright hate speech. I was worried there was going to be something pretty blatant.
We'll probably have a talk about this guy as a fence-sitter, though.
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Ah, I was too slow to reply, didn't see this. Basically sums up my general impression of the guy as written earlier in this post. Appreciate the clarification.
Great! So if they have a backbone we can expect them to do something.
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