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Paragon Open Beta Thead | PC x PS4

GraveRobberX

Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
What is the benefit of account levels now that rewards are gone from it?

Is it just a number?

I though each level from 51-99 gave you Rewards no?

I earned a lot of Retroactive rewards, thought some of that was through Account Levels

Account Level 99 is just max, i still get 1-2 star bot games here and there, which you would think wouldn't be the norm for being at cap

No fucking clue how their matchmaking works at all now PvE or PvP
 

Afro

Member
I'm saving all my chests hoping they'll add skins to them or something in the future. Not even worth opening right now.
 

Spinluck

Member
So why nerf the others? I play Iggy a lot and when I'm playing against him the counter is REAL simple... Take his turrets out. But they needed him. Counted requires you to pick a totally different character. Insane.

And it's stupid that she can teleport into a tower, one shot you and teleport back out, taking MAYBE one hit from the tower. I think the worst part about her though is that dumb card that makes you invisible. It's dumb.

Iggy can melt multiple heroes at once and not even take a scratch. Each hero has their strengths and weaknesses, and some can play from behind better than others. Countesses goal is to get fed, rotate, and take out squishies. She can dive which is easier against characters with no CC. That's her game. If she playing from behind it's an uphill battle that makes fighting against tanks or junglers pretty much equal death for her. When she is ahead it is best to avoid her at all cost if you have limited escapes and aren't a tank. Although, if you have any bit of CC she is done for because she very squishy.

There are literally cards and characters in the game that counter her. This isn't a Wukong situation where you literally had to go above and beyond to counter him or even pick a Wukong yourself to have a chance. Her win rate is at like 50% for a reason. I think she's fine where she's at. She's just a really good assassin. If anything, Belica needs a slight nerf, she is far better imo.


I have the counter attack card in my jungler deck. It's always fun to watch a Countess ult herself to death and not know what the fuck happened.
 

Ploid 3.0

Member
That feeling when you open the vault and it's cards, and they have the nerve to call it a epic reward. Feels bad dood.

I though each level from 51-99 gave you Rewards no?

I earned a lot of Retroactive rewards, thought some of that was through Account Levels

Account Level 99 is just max, i still get 1-2 star bot games here and there, which you would think wouldn't be the norm for being at cap

No fucking clue how their matchmaking works at all now PvE or PvP

Ah, ok. I'm 51 now, maybe I'll get something next level.
 
Is there a recommended site for builds under the new dawn system? Just getting back into the game and I really like Revenant. Belica, Grux, and Riktor were my mains before.
 
What? They ban people fir leaving matches? I didn't know that. What if someone's internet is bad and get him disconnected? What if other players want to kick him for no reason? How long is the penalty? Can your account be compromised forever?
 

Turkoop

Banned
What? They ban people fir leaving matches? I didn't know that. What if someone's internet is bad and get him disconnected? What if other players want to kick him for no reason? How long is the penalty? Can your account be compromised forever?

You can still get back into your game when you've been disconnected.
 

Ploid 3.0

Member
I have been playing a ton since I started the boost stuff, I got Muriel, and Fey to rank 11, working on Narbash now. I don't know if I have it in me to get a 4th to master skin any time soon. I would like to see what the rank items above the ones shown are.

Right now I don't care about going above 11, and if there are more ranks past the ones shown that may give me a reason to try for it. I only unlocked 11 with the tokens (gold key), and I'm only ranking up characters I had masteries for before the v42 update (don't need to blow tons of rep into them each rank).

I hope they don't nerf solo exp any time soon. Actually I'll be done with it before they try I bet. Fastest exp I've ever gotten in this game, if they had a boost event going it would be even better. I'll make sure to save coins for when they do a bonus exp event actually. Even if solo exp is removed, I'll still be able to zombie co op with their fast wins.

Netflix and Paragon
 

molnizzle

Member
What? They ban people fir leaving matches? I didn't know that. What if someone's internet is bad and get him disconnected? What if other players want to kick him for no reason? How long is the penalty? Can your account be compromised forever?

You can rejoin if you DC. Repeated DC and you'll get a short ban with a message telling you to fix your Internet before you come back.

It's a good system, really. If your shit is that unreliable you shouldn't be playing a competitive MOBA.
 
What? They ban people fir leaving matches? I didn't know that. What if someone's internet is bad and get him disconnected? What if other players want to kick him for no reason? How long is the penalty? Can your account be compromised forever?

If you dodge a draft its 4 minutes, 3 times, then a 24hr ban.

If you disconnect, quit or go afk and don't return multiple times its a 24hr ban, the more you quit, the harsher the punishment which eventually leads to an account ban.
 

Ploid 3.0

Member
Aw brah!

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I have so many skins for this dude. I keep getting chest keys. I was almost down to 1 but got 3 (2+1) in a row with silver boxes. I got back to 6 and am at 4 now. The crates are worthless but you get keys in them sometimes, which could make up for the useless cards. Keys are easier to get than the loot crates.

Patch notes for 42.4 are up...

Good news for anyone that wanted a more standard 'once per day' timer for the chests / quests / etc.

Just when I started to take advantage of the -2 hours by trying to claim it when possible thanks to a phone timer. I couldn't keep it up though, but I got it out of the AM times today. Oh well, I may have only gotten one extra daily out of it, but now the dailies don't seem too good. The reps are nice if I would spend them (I'll try not to until a character I must rank up or play lightly exists), other than rep it seems like cards, gems, and chests.

I'm happy that the other stuff is on a fixed timer though. Worth it, not knowing when all of those reset was bad. Sometimes things like the quests would have a timer but it seems to only happen when it was 3 hours until the new one starts. Right now my diamond chest reward is not showing when it will be able to be claimed. Before I hit diamond I could see exactly when time was up. It's the little things.

Edit: When the exp daily bonus reset happens I'll try for the worst AI team (whip girl as your carry), and go for a 50+ minute game. I got a long game on the daily exp bonus one time, and got up to 7k exp, but now I can get it on purpose!
 

GraveRobberX

Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
42.4 info:

https://www.epicgames.com/paragon/en-US/news/v-42-4-release-notes

Big news:

Daily Quests, Star Chests, and First Win of the Day now reset at 4 AM EDT rather than 22 hours after claiming the reward.

So Daily Logins are still 22 hour knock back, but the other 3 shifting to hard locked times of 4AM EST Daily

So star Chest every 3 Days @4am, no more worrying when chest will unlock or get extra chest with 70 hour shenanigans



Unlocked Murdock with my free Mastery Rank Token for hitting 60 Stars through MMV
Goddamn I missed this space cop, last time I played him was way back in Legacy, my first Mastery.
Kit is so weird at not having traps at your disposal.
Hilarious chasing down enemies or Murdock gains the ability notifying you someone is near death and give chase, Haha!
 
42.4 info:

https://www.epicgames.com/paragon/en-US/news/v-42-4-release-notes

Big news:

Daily Quests, Star Chests, and First Win of the Day now reset at 4 AM EDT rather than 22 hours after claiming the reward.

So Daily Logins are still 22 hour knock back, but the other 3 shifting to hard locked times of 4AM EST Daily

So star Chest every 3 Days @4am, no more worrying when chest will unlock or get extra chest with 70 hour shenanigans



Unlocked Murdock with my free Mastery Rank Token for hitting 60 Stars through MMV
Goddamn I missed this space cop, last time I played him was way back in Legacy, my first Mastery.
Kit is so weird at not having traps at your disposal.
Hilarious chasing down enemies or Murdock gains the ability notifying you someone is near death and give chase, Haha!

Biggest change for me is being able to see power gains on your abilities. Such a minor thing but i've wanted it for so long!
 

GraveRobberX

Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
That Alien Invader Drongo is amazing.

Looks like a Green Thrall... Destiny 2 Hype

There goes all my time, miss you Paragon, will login and stuff, but games will be iffy, maybe finish dailies, maybe
 

Ploid 3.0

Member
The new Iggy and Scorch robo skins look much better. Less like a solid metal color, and more defined designs to differentiate Iggy from Scorch better.
 

GraveRobberX

Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Bought the Alien Invader Drongo

Morigesh is the Picture loooooooooool



Also nothing reset, my timers are still the same, guessing from tomorrow on they'll reset

Also Those Tier Packs (Skins related?) have a teaser on the home page, no clue
I click it and sends me to the Store tab
 
Where is the Shinbi love when it comes to skins?

It's always Kallari, Iggy, Feng, or Aurora it seems. Shinbi hasn't had anything added to get skins since...i can't even remember when. Even that $150 Platinum bundle has 10 exclusive hero skins and no Shinbi.

Just ranting is all. Never mind us Shinbi main:(
 

GraveRobberX

Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
What Epic timing on these Tier Packs, fucking disgusting

Yeah let's Onboard new players by giving them the F2P tagline yet push them into the Pay to Win model

Unbelievable

Now Chests are considered monetarily assets in the game
Once free, given away, now you can bypass all the Grind and benefit and itll only cost you what $320 for the freaking game (one of each tier can be bought once, so stack all 4 version, you get $320 total.(

Yeesh, if this is how they think the game should be headed, good fucking idea waking up the whole community to the gouging when a big huge release fall on it the same Day lol


Hey molnizzle I want you to tell me how this OK?

Remember me min/maxing rewards and earning my stuff by playing the game hardcore, now others can "catch up", all you need to do is open up your Wallets big time


Thank fuck D2 dropping, seriously fuming at how Epic treating the playerbase
This slippery slope is getting way to wobbly to stand on
 

TheRed

Member
It said I got 26 veteran chests when I opened the game after not playing in forever. They don't show up anywhere to open. Is it bugged or what?
 

Ploid 3.0

Member
It said I got 26 veteran chests when I opened the game after not playing in forever. They don't show up anywhere to open. Is it bugged or what?

They are opened automatically. It caused problems when patch v42 launched and everyone had a ton of chests to open. Their solution was to auto open them at once. You get no animation, or indicator of what you got, but your stuff should be on your account. Cards (lol), Gems, maybe other stuff.

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Finally got Narbash to rank 10, finally a cool looking skin. I don't know who's idea it was to give him that Rival skin. It's the definition of bland.

Thankfully I don't think I want anything from those chests. I play games to grind, if I were to buy all those lolChests, skins, and loot crates + keys I'd have little reason to play.
 

molnizzle

Member
Hey molnizzle I want you to tell me how this OK?

Remember me min/maxing rewards and earning my stuff by playing the game hardcore, now others can "catch up", all you need to do is open up your Wallets big time


Thank fuck D2 dropping, seriously fuming at how Epic treating the playerbase
This slippery slope is getting way to wobbly to stand on

Well... it's a f2p MOBA. Again, the "rewards" were never the point. It's a multiplayer game. In other MOBA's you have to buy access to each hero, but Epic wanted all heroes to be free for everybody. This is how they're monetizing.

You don't need skins and high level cards to be competitive. They're just window dressing. You've always been able to throw down loads of money for currency and stuff in this game, I don't see how these are anything new.
 

charsace

Member
Can we get a list of players going? I need some people to play with. One thing I realize is that people playing stupidly make this game even harder.
 
Remember me min/maxing rewards and earning my stuff by playing the game hardcore, now others can "catch up", all you need to do is open up your Wallets big time

So your problem is that in a free to play game there is a way for others to pay their way to the top? Is this your first rodeo?

I remember someone on here 'opened up their wallet' and bought multiple copies of the boxed version of Paragon to get loads of coins out of them. And there's me 'playing the game hardcore' and getting a measly amount of coins. SO UNFAIR!
 

Toni

Member
Where is the Shinbi love when it comes to skins?

It's always Kallari, Iggy, Feng, or Aurora it seems. Shinbi hasn't had anything added to get skins since...i can't even remember when. Even that $150 Platinum bundle has 10 exclusive hero skins and no Shinbi.

Just ranting is all. Never mind us Shinbi main:(

Shinbi?!??

Yin hasn't had a skin added to her since she came out lol. Not even a Taunt. At least Shinbi got one with the recent patch.

Epic hasn't even boosted / corrected her for the New Dawn update because she went essentially from bring a powerhouse basic attacker to irrelevant status with the quickness. Nobody picks her now.

And she has gotten no activity from updates or patches.

She is supposed to be the ultimate counter for Iggy, and Iggy just melts her at the moment.

Epic have abondonded her entirely.
 

TheRed

Member
They are opened automatically. It caused problems when patch v42 launched and everyone had a ton of chests to open. Their solution was to auto open them at once. You get no animation, or indicator of what you got, but your stuff should be on your account. Cards (lol), Gems, maybe other stuff.

-----

Finally got Narbash to rank 10, finally a cool looking skin. I don't know who's idea it was to give him that Rival skin. It's the definition of bland.

Thankfully I don't think I want anything from those chests. I play games to grind, if I were to buy all those lolChests, skins, and loot crates + keys I'd have little reason to play.
Ok good thanks :) thought I got ripped off. They should really add something saying you got it all though lol.
 

Ploid 3.0

Member
I just played a Co op game after so many games of solo where I could extend the matches for great exp, and boy does it seem worthless to do co op games. Pitiful exp thanks to the exp system. The match was about 15 minutes long or less, and the reward was around 1,500 exp.

It was much more fun to be able to play and not twiddle my thumbs as I watch the clock tick for more exp. Twin Blast is a beast.
 
At about 1:25 ish into THIS VIDEO we get to see the balance of Countess. Bu-bu-but... SHE'S AN ASSASSIN! What other character does this? NOBODY. But they nerf Wukong and Iggy. Dumbest devs on the planet. But I guess you could just have your ENTIRE team have to counter pick against her, right?
 

molnizzle

Member
I just played a Co op game after so many games of solo where I could extend the matches for great exp, and boy does it seem worthless to do co op games. Pitiful exp thanks to the exp system. The match was about 15 minutes long or less, and the reward was around 1,500 exp.

It was much more fun to be able to play and not twiddle my thumbs as I watch the clock tick for more exp. Twin Blast is a beast.

It's coins that pay off for co-op. PvP even moreso.
 

Eyerox

Member
What Epic timing on these Tier Packs, fucking disgusting

Yeah let's Onboard new players by giving them the F2P tagline yet push them into the Pay to Win model

Unbelievable

Now Chests are considered monetarily assets in the game
Once free, given away, now you can bypass all the Grind and benefit and itll only cost you what $320 for the freaking game (one of each tier can be bought once, so stack all 4 version, you get $320 total.(

Yeesh, if this is how they think the game should be headed, good fucking idea waking up the whole community to the gouging when a big huge release fall on it the same Day lol


Hey molnizzle I want you to tell me how this OK?

Remember me min/maxing rewards and earning my stuff by playing the game hardcore, now others can "catch up", all you need to do is open up your Wallets big time


Thank fuck D2 dropping, seriously fuming at how Epic treating the playerbase
This slippery slope is getting way to wobbly to stand on

FROM EPIC:

"Hey folks,

We hear you and understand why you’re upset. Here’s what’s happening:

1.) A series of mistakes led to packs being sold containing chests with cards. We promised that cards and heroes wouldn’t be sold. We’re sorry for our mistake. The chests will be removed from the packs ASAP. Anyone who has already purchased them will keep them.

2.) We’re already working on a system for purchasing the cards you want with Rep, in addition to the random chests already in the game. We expect the system to ship in v43 on the 19th of September. We’ll share details next week.

​​​​​​​We’re learning as we go, we’re making mistakes, and we’re sorry for causing this turmoil. Thanks for sticking with us, we really appreciate all of you."

They realize they fucked up.
 

Eyerox

Member
This was a frustrating watch. So many non-answers and running around in circles. This game is such a mess right now and the community is shrinking at an alarming rate.

I think it was a wasted opportunity for reddit to get answers. The questions the were upvoted were questions that had been answered before. Just because you (reddit community) don't like the answer, doesn't mean the answer will change if asked again.

That, to me was frustrating. I'm surprised the "Can we bring back legacy?" silliness wasn't asked.
 

Ploid 3.0

Member
Last week or whatever my mega vault was friggin cards, and I just finished my second megavault of this rotation and it..... CARDS. Stinkin, darn, stoopid, wasted time, crap, why so many card traps, crappidy, #)$@#%(!!.
 
Tried my luck asking for a partial refund on coins to no luck, which I was fully expecting. But, with losing out on 800 coins I now have no desire to play a game which the devs wildly alter at their will. Uninstalled. Uninstalled the dead Unreal Tournament. Uninstalled the client. Now playing the fantastic Mad Max with Rocket League as my main MP game again.

Good luck to everyone in the future with the game.
 

ZeroCoin

Member
Everyone can rest easy, Epic had heard the cries for Countess to be addressed. V42.5 patch notes.

I do find it pretty funny that with all the complaints about Countess they choose her to start off a 'character of the week' focus. I really like the idea behind what they are doing but, regardless of feelings on whether she deserves a nerf or not, strikes me as pretty tone-deaf.
 

Ploid 3.0

Member
I thought it was going to be tweaks and looked up the patch to see what you meant. Turns out it's a Countess week, with Countess love and praise, no tweaks haha. This will go down really good. /s
 

ShdwDrake

Banned
Everyone can rest easy, Epic had heard the cries for Countess to be addressed. V42.5 patch notes.

I do find it pretty funny that with all the complaints about Countess they choose her to start off a 'character of the week' focus. I really like the idea behind what they are doing but, regardless of feelings on whether she deserves a nerf or not, strikes me as pretty tone-deaf.

Sounds like Epic.
 
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