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Metroid: Samus Returns (Mercury Steam, Metroid 2 reimagining, 9/15) announced for 3DS

RagnarokX

Member
Yeah but the Metroids have been 'wiped out' three times now. And there keep being more and more planets full of Chozo and their bros.

There could easily be what turns out to be another Space Pirate holdout somewhere.
Chozo stuff being spread across many planets isn't likely something the main games will acknowledge. Besides that, metroids were made specifically to exterminate the X parasites on SR388 and the Chozo quickly realized they made a mistake, so having metroids in other colonies would be dumb.

Without Ridley they might as well just make it a new threat altogether, though.

That doesn't really seem like conclusive evidence, since Ridley came back in that very game.
Ridley was cloned accidentally by the conspiracy group, who also cloned Zebesians and planned to use them as bioweapons. The issue isn't that they can't come back. It's that they would need to be brought back first.

We also need to remember this as well :

Samus is literally the last Metroid.

Well, in the way that Metroid means "Ultimate Warrior" in Chozo language, but if you're talking about her having Metroid DNA that ceases to be the case when she absorbs SA-X.
 

RPS37

Member
So...tell me about how this plays on the New 3DS compared to the OG.
Does it use the second nub? How does it control on the OG then?
 

D.Lo

Member
Chozo stuff being spread across many planets isn't likely something the main games will acknowledge. Besides that, metroids were made specifically to exterminate the X parasites on SR388 and the Chozo quickly realized they made a mistake, so having metroids in other colonies would be dumb.

Well, in the way that Metroid means "Ultimate Warrior" in Chozo language, but if you're talking about her having Metroid DNA that ceases to be the case when she absorbs SA-X.
Sakamoto ran out of Alien movies to half rip-off essentially lol.

What we should have got in the 90s was Metroid vs Red Falcon (Contra) lol.

It's one of those series that has an unfortunate if in others ways great and solid, name. The series is really 'adventures of Samus' (one game aside), and so the devs have kept working out more excuses to get Metroids in them despite it making little sense.

Reality: There will probably be Metroids and Space Pirates again.
 

Kindekuma

Banned
So...tell me about how this plays on the New 3DS compared to the OG.
Does it use the second nub? How does it control on the OG then?

I don't think there is any changes between the two in terms of performance or controls.

I know L is free-aim, maybe there is a way to set that as the C stick in n3DS.
 

Boss Doggie

all my loli wolf companions are so moe
That doesn't really seem like conclusive evidence, since Ridley came back in that very game.

Ridley in Fusion wasn't the real Ridley though. His carcass was infected and you fought an X-Parasite mimicking Ridley.

The whole Fusion was about conclusion of most of Metroid stuff, even the Metroid was more of a surprise at the end than anything.
 

Toxi

Banned
Started replaying Federation Force, since I've replayed everything else outside Hunters.

The music is decent, and I like the gyroscope controls. While the graphics are ugly as sin, I like the variety between the three main planets.

Man does the game suck early on when you have barely any mods or item space. I haven't even tried to do any missions online since I doubt anyone is still there, and anyone who is will probably be doing the later missions.

We also need to remember this as well :

Samus is literally the last Metroid.
The Galactic Federation still has Metroid DNA and is cloning them, so I doubt it.

I'm not sure why people act like destroying the BSL means they can't make any more Metroids.
 

RagnarokX

Member
Ridley in Fusion wasn't the real Ridley though. His carcass was infected and you fought an X-Parasite mimicking Ridley.

The whole Fusion was about conclusion of most of Metroid stuff, even the Metroid was more of a surprise at the end than anything.

Fusion was a pretty finite end for Ridley, at least. He came back from annihilation in Super because he accidentally got brought back by the scientists in Other M from DNA collected off Samus' suit, but after getting sucked dry by a Metroid Queen, getting absorbed by an X-Parasite, and then having the BSL and SR388 blown to oblivion I think that's the end for him. Unless the Federation has samples of his DNA and clone him again even though they didn't mean to the first time. But hell, they thought they could control Zebesians, Metroids, and an AI based on Mother Brain so I guess they'd be full enough of themselves to try making a subservient Ridley. I'm pretty sure Ridley has genetic memory, though, so his clones retain his personality. He certainly remembered Samus in Other M.
 

Boss Doggie

all my loli wolf companions are so moe
Fusion was a pretty finite end for Ridley, at least. He came back from annihilation in Super because he accidentally got brought back by the scientists in Other M from DNA collected off Samus' suit, but after getting sucked dry by a Metroid Queen, getting absorbed by an X-Parasite, and then having the BSL and SR388 blown to oblivion I think that's the end for him. Unless the Federation has samples of his DNA and clone him again even though they didn't mean to the first time. But hell, they thought they could control Zebesians, Metroids, and an AI based on Mother Brain so I guess they'd be full enough of themselves to try making a subservient Ridley. I'm pretty sure Ridley has genetic memory, though, so his clones retain his personality. He certainly remembered Samus in Other M.

At least this means he's deader than dead and we all know the dead can't join Smash.
 

RagnarokX

Member
At least this means he's deader than dead and we all know the dead can't join Smash.

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A little thing like total molecular annihilation isn't going to keep our ol' pal Ridley down. Metroid needs a dragon to fight, just like Zelda needs his big green guy and Mario needs the angry turtle man.

The only way Ridley could actually die is if Samus Returns and Prime 4 bomb and Nintendo shelves the franchise for good :p
 

KingBroly

Banned
Fusion was a pretty finite end for Ridley, at least. He came back from annihilation in Super because he accidentally got brought back by the scientists in Other M from DNA collected off Samus' suit, but after getting sucked dry by a Metroid Queen, getting absorbed by an X-Parasite, and then having the BSL and SR388 blown to oblivion I think that's the end for him. Unless the Federation has samples of his DNA and clone him again even though they didn't mean to the first time. But hell, they thought they could control Zebesians, Metroids, and an AI based on Mother Brain so I guess they'd be full enough of themselves to try making a subservient Ridley. I'm pretty sure Ridley has genetic memory, though, so his clones retain his personality. He certainly remembered Samus in Other M.

If you think Sakamoto won't come up with some contrived bullshit to bring Ridley or more Metroids back, you're wrong.
 
Even If Sakamoto wasn't involved in any form in future Metroid games.

I'm pretty sure they'll still try to find ways to bring Ridley and Metroids back. Because it's Ridley and Metroids.
 

Mr Swine

Banned
Even If Sakamoto wasn't involved in any form in future Metroid games.

I'm pretty sure they'll still try to find ways to bring Ridley and Metroids back. Because it's Ridley and Metroids.

Blergh, let Ridley be dead and have the true Zebesian leader be resurrected!

Ya know who she is! Mother Brain!

god I would love it if there was a precursor to Mother Brain in SR
 

Cpt Lmao

Member
Man it's been so long, and this to me will essentially be a brand new Metroid game.

Reviews are gonna be great, reckon we're looking at a clean 90/100, hope the sales reflect the effort, and then we'll get a brand new 2D Metroid in HD on Switch!

Remember when everyone complained about this game when it was announced? Jokers.
 

Egida

Neo Member
Remember when everyone complained about this game when it was announced? Jokers.
Yeah, the initial reveal, it not being a Switch game and MercurySteam as the developer receive a lukewarm response. Then, as gameplay and impressions started to roll people realized we were getting something really good. I went for Yay, Metroid to hype overdrive.
 

KingBroly

Banned
I feel like the amiibo unlocks will be a lynchpin for reviewers, depending on what kind of content is behind the Art Gallery (I'm guessing there's no special endings behind this; if there is, that's a BAD MOVE for Nintendo to do) and Sound Test. The reserve tanks really don't mean much, and Fusion Mode just seems kinda...there.

Concerns? 30fps is always a big one. Considering the 3D effect, it could be too intense for me to handle (like in Pilotwings and DKCR by Monster; I forget how Lords of Shadow 3D's was) as well as potential ghosting effects 3D does bring up at that low poly screen. I'm also concerned that you use the slide pad instead of the D-pad in a 2D game.
 

TheMoon

Member
Aren't they supposed to drop on Wednesday? I could've sworn I read something about the embargo lifting on the 13th.

Tuesday 10am pacific.

So...tell me about how this plays on the New 3DS compared to the OG.
Does it use the second nub? How does it control on the OG then?

What would it use the nub for in a 2D game. There's no camera to control.

Ridley can come back any time because SCIENCE!

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loool why do the space pirates look like fuzzies from Mario :D

I love them!
 

T.O.P

Banned
Thinking of picking up a 2DS just to play this...gonna wait for reviews tomorrow just in case, but i'm really really close
 

TheMoon

Member
Thinking of picking up a 2DS just to play this...gonna wait for reviews tomorrow just in case, but i'm really really close

I don't recall a single bad thing in all the impressions from E3/GC/PAX and proper previews. There's no scenario in which reviews tomorrow will somehow expose this as a turd.
 

Boss Doggie

all my loli wolf companions are so moe
A little thing like total molecular annihilation isn't going to keep our ol' pal Ridley down. Metroid needs a dragon to fight, just like Zelda needs his big green guy and Mario needs the angry turtle man.

The only way Ridley could actually die is if Samus Returns and Prime 4 bomb and Nintendo shelves the franchise for good :p

technically it's more than that

it's more like Ridley's carcass is eaten
 
If you think Sakamoto won't come up with some contrived bullshit to bring Ridley or more Metroids back, you're wrong.
If
Other M and
Fusion's anything to go by, the Galactic Federation already has DNA copies of Ridley to use whenever they want

And they'd want Samus for whatever little Metroid DNA is left in her for more Metroid cloning
 

Phatcorns

Member
I've got a copy of the limited us edition at Best Buy and was gonna cancel it but figured I'd ask if anyone wanted it at cost before I do. If you do just pm me!
 

6:10:50

Neo Member
Got my shipping notice from Best Buy this morning -- anticipated to arrive Wednesday afternoon. Hoping some other folks are lucky enough to catch early copies!
 
Got my shipping notice from Best Buy this morning -- anticipated to arrive Wednesday afternoon. Hoping some other folks are lucky enough to catch early copies!

Wow that is awesome. With shipping issues and Game stop I decided to just order in store and pick it up. Post impressions when you get it.
 
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