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[plagiarize]

Let them claim a Nazi. They aren't that stupid.

Yeah. Trump might be stupid enough to defend this guy, but Fox wouldn't touch it. They might try and come up with something about the left being hypocritical to enjoy seeing a Nazi punched, but that's a very narrow line to walk without crossing over into defending a self identifying Nazi. My bets is they won't touch it.

 

[Nokterian]

Holy hell saving that first one. It's perfect.

Off course it is because you don't want it to happen again.

 

[Nepenthe]

I always have to wonder in these instances why people insist on lecturing the normal people who oppose Nazis, instead of lecturing the actual Nazis. It's almost like people expect the far-right to be a shitty lost cause and thus there's nothing to actually do except let them be shitty, like trying to domesticate zebras.

 

[Zoon]

So, what would happen if they guy who got punched killed someone in self-defense? Say he had a knife or a gun. You all who celebrate violence are crazy.

 

[BitStyle]

So, what would happen if they guy who got punched killed someone in self-defense? Say he had a knife or a gun. You all who celebrate violence are crazy.

Man, these hypotheticals that people are conjuring in this thread sure are something.

Situations are not comparable at all.

 

[Air Zombie Meat]

I see it as provocation on the same level as going up to people on the street and telling them their wife is a whore and their kids are ugly. Not illegal but no one would be shocked or disgusted if that earned you a punch.

 

[Nekofrog]

I think I would feel a whole lot better about this if there was video of this guy screaming at people before hand.

The only video I see is of him being surrounded by other 4 or 5 people and getting punched in the face mid-sentence. All I heard was "they deserve the...(something?)...PUNCHED OUT"

It would go a long way in showing he actually deserved to get beaten right there on the street. Sure, the armband swastika is pretty bad in it's own right, but showing the guy mouthing off and spewing pure hate live in a video would make me personally feel a whole lot better about it.

Hopefully someone on the bus or train got video of this Nazi guy doing more than just sitting in a seat listening to music on his headphones. Because that'll be the narrative the Alt-Right uses in their propaganda. "Innocent man taking advantage of 1st amendment rights ruthlessly attacked by radical Antifa extremists blah blah blah shit". That's how it'll be spun - making him into the victim.

I assume he probably went back and forth with someone based on the armband he was wearing. I'd probably say something too to this clown if he's just walking down the street wearing that shit. But I ain't taking a swing at him unless he takes one at me. Having video evidence of him spewing hatred beforehand would go along way, though, in making me take a good swing at him. Especially if he was doing it right in my face.

Is there a longer version of that video some where? I want to hear more of what the Nazi guy was saying beforehand to people.

EDIT - looks like YouTube is taking them down.

The fact that proudly wearing and displaying a symbol of hatred, genocide, infanticide, horrendous torture and literally every other evil you could think of in this world isn't enough for you to be ok with punching the guy says a lot about you.

Fence sitters, when it comes to Nazis, are complicit with their crimes. My wife was born disabled and this asshole would rather she be exterminated than luve a full life loving and helping people. My wife has her master's degree in social work and helps manage a foster care organization that helps children with no hope and no home find both and have better lives. She raised 3 children that weren't hers when she was 12.

My wife has contributed more to this world as someone born with cerebral palsy than these Nazi shit stains ever will in their entire lives. Fuck every last one of them, punch every last one of them.

 

[CoolOff]

So, what would happen if they guy who got punched killed someone in self-defense? Say he had a knife or a gun. You all who celebrate violence are crazy.

It's hard to claim self defense when you shout at people while wearing a swastika.

Man, these hypotheticals that people are conjuring in this thread sure are something.

They sure are.

 

[Aselith]

I always have to wonder in these instances why people insist on lecturing the normal people who oppose Nazis, instead of lecturing the actual Nazis. It's almost like people expect the far-right to be a shitty lost cause and thus there's nothing to actually do except let them be shitty, like trying to domesticate zebras.

Exactly, a zebra don't change his spots.

 

[smisk]

Do we know that the dude who punched him was antifa? It seems more likely the dude was spouting shit while wearing nazi regalia and some heroic citizen decided to make him stop.

 

[ebullientprism]

Man, the slopes are slippery as fuck in this thread.

"Oh you are ok with punching a Nazi? You must be ok with burning children of Nazi's alive."

 

[-Plasma Reus-]

Feel good story of the week.
Almost like watching a fucking Disney movie.

 

[televator]

Night Night

.

Nazi Steven was tired and cranky and needed a nap.

 

[zeemumu]

From a legal standpoint nah you can't really get away with that because it's assault, but getting punched comes with the territory of supporting mass murder in the same way that it comes with the territory of walking into a funeral, telling everyone that the deceased had it coming, spitting on the floor, and then flipping off everyone in attendance on the way out.

And yes, that is oddly specific, isn't it. *dramatic piano*

 

[Gotdatmoney]

So, what would happen if they guy who got punched killed someone in self-defense? Say he had a knife or a gun. You all who celebrate violence are crazy.

When that happens we'll all read about it and come to a conclusion based on the facts of the case. Until then aint no one give a fuck about hypotheticals.

 

[Gnome Scat]

Not a fan of violence but then again he is a literal fucking Nazi who was harassing people, so he had it coming.

 

[ISOM]

I always have to wonder in these instances why people insist on lecturing the normal people who oppose Nazis, instead of lecturing the actual Nazis. It's almost like people expect the far-right to be a shitty lost cause and thus there's nothing to actually do except let them be shitty, like trying to domesticate zebras.

I've thought the same thing multiple times, which is why the Nazi's were able to walk over the moderates right into power.

 

[Crossing Eden]

So, what would happen if they guy who got punched killed someone in self-defense? Say he had a knife or a gun. You all who celebrate violence are crazy.

So what you're saying is that we shouldn't immediately raise alarm at the idea of a nazi being armed and that minorities defending their own wouldn't be the victims in that pointless hypothetical?

 

[Zoon]

It's hard to claim self defense when you shout at people while wearing a swastika.

It's one thing getting shouted at and a completely different thing getting physically attacked.

 

[Trouble]

Do we know that the dude who punched him was antifa? It seems more likely the dude was spouting shit while wearing nazi regalia and some heroic citizen decided to make him stop.

I'm wondering the same thing. You go to 3rd & Pine wearing a nazi armband and it's only a matter of time before you get punched, no antifa manhunt necessary.

 

[TS-08]

Man, these hypotheticals that people are conjuring in this thread sure are something.

"What happens if someone getting punched fights back with a weapon" isn't that crazy of a hypothetical, to be fair.

 

[Zap Rowsdower]

I always have to wonder in these instances why people insist on lecturing the normal people who oppose Nazis, instead of lecturing the actual Nazis. It's almost like people expect the far-right to be a shitty lost cause and thus there's nothing to actually do except let them be shitty, like trying to domesticate zebras.

At this point I think its more that they're Nazi sympathizers deep down themselves but are too cowardly to admit it.

This past year has shown me that Hanlon's Razor isn't true when it comes to way too many of my fellow Americans. People are fully aware of their hatred and fully embrace it.

 

[Nafai1123]

I always have to wonder in these instances why people insist on lecturing the normal people who oppose Nazis, instead of lecturing the actual Nazis. It's almost like people expect the far-right to be a shitty lost cause and thus there's nothing to actually do except let them be shitty, like trying to domesticate zebras.

I think the reality is there are a lot of racists in this country, so people naturally find ways to justify their own inaction when dealing with the racists in their own lives (friends/family). They personalize the violence against these bigots as violence against the people they care about, thus attempting to justify their own inaction in the face of genocidal fascists.

 

[Kill Your Masters]

So, what would happen if they guy who got punched killed someone in self-defense? Say he had a knife or a gun. You all who celebrate violence are crazy.

Ah yes hypothetical whataboutism something.

What if the Nazi was following a minority person and wanted to rape and kill her?

 

[HiredN00bs]

If our justice system isn't capable of detaining, restricting, prosecuting, and reforming these hateful, violent people, fixing that ought to be the primary focus of our collaborative response. We need to spend more time reading and less time watching superhero movies. This problem will continue to fester and grow as long as we keep looking for quick, cheap thrills. You can use a fist to knock someone down, but you can't use it to beat an idea, or a social movement.

This shit is serious and we need serious solutions.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

So, what would happen if they guy who got punched killed someone in self-defense? Say he had a knife or a gun. You all who celebrate violence are crazy.

People who discuss what's actually happened are far less crazy than those who live in hypothetical situations.

 

[23qwerty]

So, what would happen if they guy who got punched killed someone in self-defense? Say he had a knife or a gun. You all who celebrate violence are crazy.

how's he gonna do anything in self defense? he got knocked the fuck out

 

[GeordieMark]

I remember as a kid everyone talked about "what would you do if you could go back in time and stop Hitler?"

No one made the stupid rationalizations and excuses everyone makes in 2017 about how to treat Nazis.

I guess the big difference is that the Nazis you have to worry about aren't the ones that ride the bus and go around yelling their nonesense at strangers in the street.

This guy getting thumped is fair enough because he was being a huge cunt, but that punch isn't going to have any significant effect on Nazi ideology. It is what it is: an obnoxious ranting twat getting his inevitable comeuppance

 

[xandaca]

That's amazing.

 

[KojiKnight]

So, what would happen if they guy who got punched killed someone in self-defense? Say he had a knife or a gun. You all who celebrate violence are crazy.

Then we'd have even more proof that someone who was going around wearing a nazi armband TRYING TO PICK FIGHTS (please don't forget this part) was planning to justify killing people that don't follow his beliefs... That is not a win for the nazi.

 

[The Elite]

Many of our countries fought an entire war against the Nazis and their ideology. I'm surprised that people think it should be ok for them to walk down the street now wearing Swastikas and spreading their hate. I don't feel sorry for them. They should still be seen as the enemy IMO.

You wouldn't even get away with this shit in Germany.

 

[plagiarize]

So, what would happen if they guy who got punched killed someone in self-defense? Say he had a knife or a gun. You all who celebrate violence are crazy.

You've got to be conscious to kill someone.

 

[Nabs]

Fence Sitting will have you feeling like a sore ass. I guess I see why some cape for Nazis.

 

[BitStyle]

"What happens if someone getting punched fights back with a weapon" isn't that crazy of a hypothetical, to be fair.

Yeah, but pointing a reductive stance of "this thread sure likes violence" without observing why people were okay with this specific case is pretty moot.

 

[Riptor]

An Eye for an Eye Will Make the Whole World Blind

-Gandhi

 

[Anung]

So, what would happen if they guy who got punched killed someone in self-defense? Say he had a knife or a gun. You all who celebrate violence are crazy.

I don't think you thought this hypothetical through there fella.

 

[marrec]

"What happens if someone getting punched fights back with a weapon" isn't that crazy of a hypothetical, to be fair.

Dudes not gunna be fighting back against anything but his next snooze 😂

 

[smisk]

800mg of THC? Goddamn son, that dude must have been in goddamn orbit.

Lol I was thinking the same thing. I took 10mg when I visited Seattle and was off my ass.

 

[Shaanyboi]

I take no issue with this.

 

[Crossing Eden]

It's one thing getting shouted at and a completely different thing getting physically attacked.

Ok i'm gonna stop you right here. Where're you going with this hypothetical that doesn't at all apply to this specific situation? Seriously, get to the point. That violence against open nazis isn't inherently ok? That they should be able to harass people unimpeded?

Ah yes hypothetical whataboutism something.

What if the Nazi was following a minority person and wanted to rape and kill her?

Hey now, we certainly should be discussing the consequences of letting nazis walk around unimpeded in 2017. We MUST focus on the hypotheticals.

 

[Nekofrog]

I've thought the same thing multiple times, which is why the Nazi's were able to walk over the moderates right into power.

You see it in this thread. Moderate fence sitters who tut-tut the actual people fighting to keep freedom alive in this country

They're called pussies. Sitting on the fence isn't noble, it's a cowards way out of having to take a stand for something -- anything -- and saying that what you see and hear isn't okay, that you've seen and heard enough, and that you are going to stand against it.

Fence sitters are the hidden evil in all of this because they act as gateway facilitators in Nazi behavior by quietly both sidesing everyone.

 

[MUnited83]

So, what would happen if they guy who got punched killed someone in self-defense? Say he had a knife or a gun. You all who celebrate violence are crazy.

If you wear a fucking swastika and yell on people's faces, every fucking single person that punches his fucking ass his actually engaging in self-defense. Being a nazi is by its very nature a violent act people should defend themselves off. Let everyone in the fucking street take a shot at the motherfucker.

 

[N7.Angel]

Getting knocked out wasn't enough, they should have drop his ass to a police station and put his ass on court for real justice... Oh wait they probably sue the black dude instead.

joke aside, that was a good punch, he definitely deserves it, fuck this dude, fuck his ideology, fuck white supremacist.

 

[Risible]

Man, the slopes are slippery as fuck in this thread.

"Oh you are ok with punching a Nazi? You must be ok with burning children of Nazi's alive."

Can we stop with the hyperbole please. No one is doing what you say.

Let's look at a real actual possible situation. This dude gets punched, goes down, hits his head on that concrete wall behind him on the way down. Like the poster earlier stated about his friend, guy gets some brain damage and his speech patterns are messed up and is never quite the same again. Again, let me reiterate this is something that actually happened to someone from getting cold-cocked. Are you OK with that happening to this guy? Do you feel the punishment fits the crime?

 

[HiredN00bs]

Many of our countries fought an entire war against the Nazis and their ideology. I'm surprised that people think it should be ok for them to walk down the street now wearing Swastikas and spreading their hate. I don't feel sorry for them. They should still be seen as the enemy IMO.

You wouldn't even get away with this shit in Germany.

It's illegal in Germany, and even if it wasn't, it would be less common because they actually learn about the evils of their history in an open and honest way, innoculating them from the lies and ignorance of hate groups.

 

[jesu]

Nice one!
That gif up there is mesmerising.

 

[bob_arctor]

Shit ton of What If? being thrown around. Take it easy or some of y'all gonna put Uatu out of business.

 

[BlackDoomShadow]

Let's look at a real actual possible situation. This dude gets punched, goes down, hits his head on that concrete wall behind him on the way down. Like the poster earlier stated about his friend, guy gets some brain damage and his speech patterns are messed up and is never quite the same again. Again, let me reiterate this is something that actually happened to someone from getting cod-cocked. Are you OK with that happening to this guy? Do you feel the punishment fits the crime?

Yes.

 

[marrec]

Can we stop with the hyperbole please. No one is doing what you say.

Let's look at a real actual possible situation. This dude gets punched, goes down, hits his head on that concrete wall behind him on the way down. Like the poster earlier stated about his friend, guy gets some brain damage and his speech patterns are messed up and is never quite the same again. Again, let me reiterate this is something that actually happened to someone from getting cod-cocked. Are you OK with that happening to this guy? Do you feel the punishment fits the crime?

Oh no the nazi might have gotten brain damage

Perhaps even killed

O no

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

If you wear a fucking swastika and yell on people's faces, every fucking single person that punches his fucking ass his actually engaging in self-defense. Being a nazi is by its very nature a violent act people should defend themselves off. Let everyone in the fucking street take a shot at the motherfucker.

This is pretty much "speech is violence" territory.