OrbitalBeard
Member
It's (formerly) EAD Tokyo.
Don't ever compare a game produced by Koizumi to fucking Yooka Laylee of all games.
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New Super Mario Odyssey trailer
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Let the hot takes consume you.
What's a Yooka Laylee? I own a Nintendo Switch.
JB-the-Hunter
Member
A discussion regarding the technical merits of a game's visuals is not subjective at all. It's one of the most objective fact based discussions that can be had about a video game. If you prefer the aesthetic/art style of a game sure, but that's not what was said.
Belgian Dude
Member
Some light spec about
that might be interesting. I'm not super sold on it, though.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKsfBzu4cak
Luigi possibly being present in the game (not necessarily being playable, mind you)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKsfBzu4cak
And I'm still more interested in that goddamn dark purple billboard because no kingdom shown so far seems to fit that, goddammit
FloweryMarston
Member
maybe the portrait is an image of early donk city, so some billboards may not reflect the final build
Yeah i think some of those levels have some parts where you can play with luigi instead? Like that purple or green star in galaxy?
It would shock me if if Luigi isn't playable. Lets look at the previous games by the same team.
Galaxy
Galaxy 2
3d land
3d world
What do they have in common? Luigi is playable.
Dagobert Duck
Member
Just let Mario dress up as Luigi, then real Luigi shows up with ultimate death stare
Or just let Mario possess Luigi.
Altered Juice
Member
The producer already hinted luigi during a reddit AMA during E3
FloweryMarston
Member
how do i access every answer from koizumi on his AMA?
Can you screencap the billboard?
FloweryMarston
Member
it's almost impossible to see to be honest
So there's a chance it's the fabled Waluigi Kingdom
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
Nothing about this post makes any sense. Both Galaxies and 3D World are outside the Mushroom Kingdom and that was fine, the Cap Kingdom isn't uninspired I don't know how you arrived at that conclusion and none of the levels are empty and boring. There's tons of gameplay proving otherwise.
Stiflers Mom
Banned
No, he isn't.
Looks really rough. Washed out textures, few objects, same old gameplay (okay, I give you the "Cap twist" as something mildly new).
I hope the Switch can do better than this.
Dark Cloud
Member
I can't tell.
Huge Succeeded
Banned
edit: I reread that post and I don't even know how to respond to it really
Exterminieren
Banned
I must admit, Im slightly baffled that people are disappointed that a Mario 64-style game has Mario 64-style level design.
A hidden Kingdom -- literally all of Hyrule from BotW, but you can explore it Mario-style, and capture Bokoblins, Moblins, Lizalfos...
Phife Dawg
Member
Who let the crazies out?
Anyways, looks wonderful and imaginative, can't wait to explore the possibilities.
Anyways, looks wonderful and imaginative, can't wait to explore the possibilities.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Well, show examples to the poster (concepts such as inspired and style points are subjective) how the game is not wide open yet empty and that will shut him or her up good
.Edit: my comment was maybe for the post of another critic maybe.
JB-the-Hunter
Member
Seriously.
People are allowed to have opinions, but some of the shit I'm seeing is so mind boggling that I think it might just be trolling.
SinCityAssassin
Member
For some reason, I haven't been compelled to watch any piece of media or read any bit of news regarding this game since its reveal trailer, yet I've got the game preordered - I think I'm going to be in for quite an experience.
I recommend to at least watch the E3 trailer.
Well, show examples to the poster (concepts such as inspired and style points are subjective) how the game is not wide open yet empty and that will shut him or her up good
Edit: my comment was maybe for the post of another critic maybe.
This footage from the recent Direct maybe? To me at least, this seems to hint that there is much more hidden than what's apparent when you first see a level.
https://youtu.be/ztMGTTAjsAQ?t=41m19s
No.. many many of the shots shown so far of Odyssey are, visually speaking, an absolute mess. I've been shocked by how many people think the visuals are good. They're not. At least not what I've seen so far.
In particular whoever okayed the visual and graphic design of New Donk City should be fired. It's not the only problem level, of course, but it's the easiest example.
It could be that your opinion is a minority. I think the visuals look great, and they seem improved since the original reveal. It appears to be a lovely game to me.
Most any game will have a minority who disagree on some aspect, such as visuals. It's okay to disagree about such things as long as we acknowledge that disagreement isn't necessarily a universal truth.
Dark Cloud
Member
Nobody should be fired.
Really ? I was thinking I may as well keep the media blackout going at this point and be surprised when playing the game.
It's just opinions. Visual style is massively subjective. Let him have his view.
Don't watch the E3 trailer. If a media blackout is what you want then definitely don't watch any more trailers. Only a month!
Can't believe how quick times gone ! Can't wait for a full fledged Mario to play on the Switch.
I for one cannot waot until someone claims that it isn't a "true" 3D Mario.
Please no.
I didn't say it's a bad game. It's probably going to be a great game. An ugly great game.
To someone else above's point, I absolutely think 3D World was far better visually. It had a more cohesive style and the individual elements were better realized.
Odyssey is a much larger and more open game and that undoubtedly explains much of why it looks so much worse graphically, but for everyone who thinks my opinion is crazy or spits their coffee out know that I feel exactly the same after reading people who think it's visually gorgeous.
To someone else above's point, I absolutely think 3D World was far better visually. It had a more cohesive style and the individual elements were better realized.
Odyssey is a much larger and more open game and that undoubtedly explains much of why it looks so much worse graphically, but for everyone who thinks my opinion is crazy or spits their coffee out know that I feel exactly the same after reading people who think it's visually gorgeous.
Alter_Fridge
Member
I really don't like that overly bright coloured level
As the guy above me says it lacks cohesion and I have to agree
As the guy above me says it lacks cohesion and I have to agree
You mean the food themed kingdom (I forgot the exact name)?
Why is it lacking cohesion?
The cap kingdom and ice level in those videos do look fairly visually monochrome. That's by design, obviously, but at the same time, that's going to be not very visually exciting to some. Especially spread over wider spaces. I'm sure other levels will be a lot more visually punchy.
As for the space in those levels, yes, it also looks 'loose' and that might appear boring to seasoned players. But I guess those levels are probably fairly early on in the game and designed to encourage movement experimentation for novices.
So I don't think some of the opinions above are outrageous, but I really doubt those two levels are typical of the meat of the game.
As for the space in those levels, yes, it also looks 'loose' and that might appear boring to seasoned players. But I guess those levels are probably fairly early on in the game and designed to encourage movement experimentation for novices.
So I don't think some of the opinions above are outrageous, but I really doubt those two levels are typical of the meat of the game.
Can you post some visual examples of what you refer to in 3D World vs. Odyssey?
moozoom
Member
From the latest videos, I get the feeling just moving Mario and making him perform all the new moves will be fun in itself.
Thats the feeling I had when playing Mario64 - the simple joy of making him seemlessly climb trees and do a summersault at the top, doing a series of jumps, swimming... all of this was exhilarating and fun.
Besides, playing dress up is one of my favorite thing in games (Fashion souls for ever) so I know Ill enjoy the costumes greatly. Couple that with picture mode and I already have hours of playtime before me.
Thats the feeling I had when playing Mario64 - the simple joy of making him seemlessly climb trees and do a summersault at the top, doing a series of jumps, swimming... all of this was exhilarating and fun.
Besides, playing dress up is one of my favorite thing in games (Fashion souls for ever) so I know Ill enjoy the costumes greatly. Couple that with picture mode and I already have hours of playtime before me.
No, but I'll post some examples of Odyssey looking, in my view, terrible. Certain shots do look a bit better, sure, the ice world looked okay. But those are the minority.
Many of these shots don't even feel like something designed or implemented in this decade. They're just so bland. There are so few examples of any kind of real artistic flare or, like, richness to anything. It's just stuff barfed everywhere. Stuff.
Pila
Member
I like the fact that Mario is travelling around and the places look so different. I do think that 3DW is a great looking game but I like innovation in my Mario games. Of course you can think the final result is poorly done, that's your opinion and it's fine.
I'm sorry for the coffee comment, it was snarky. My bad.
Dark Cloud
Member
Man this game looks amazing. Thanks for reminding me. 🙂
Out of all the shots you could have chosen you pick one of my favorite shots, the Sand Kingdom's entrance, pls.
Exterminieren
Banned
The lack of cohesion is a feature, not a bug. The whole point of the game is that its going to a whole host of places that the Mario series hasnt touched and experimenting with a load of new styles and visual cues. No ones saying you have to like it, but dinging the game for a lack of visual cohesion when thats the entire point of the exercise is more than a little daft.
Im also not seeing whats inherently wrong with the two wide shots of Tostarena and New Donk City. To my eyes, they look poppy and fun, with enticing level geometry and clear, interesting sight lines. Yeah, the side view of the RC minigames a little cheap, but the vast majority of players will look at that for a handful of seconds.
Im also not seeing whats inherently wrong with the two wide shots of Tostarena and New Donk City. To my eyes, they look poppy and fun, with enticing level geometry and clear, interesting sight lines. Yeah, the side view of the RC minigames a little cheap, but the vast majority of players will look at that for a handful of seconds.