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Do you think this is mainly a case of using source material without permission? Would the situation change even if they bought the rights to use the picture? Or maybe i'm missing something similar that Naughty Dog did.
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Body of assassinated Russian diplomat used in Telltale's Batman game.
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Rellik
Member
It's a very real image from a very real terrorist incident that had videos all over the internet.
Wouldn't surprise me if this was the case. I certainly thought it was a stock photo the first time I saw it.
GlamFM
Banned
This can happen, it sucks, but it can happen.
I work in an ad production company and we have had stuff make it into the final piece (TV AD/Print/Animation whatever) that should have been replaced earlier.
Someone makes a moodboard and uses unlicensed images from Google (as you do in this phase) and passes it on to the next guy to work on it who thought the asset was final because the producer or someone else forgot to tell him it was not.
Suff like this can slip through the cracks.
I work in an ad production company and we have had stuff make it into the final piece (TV AD/Print/Animation whatever) that should have been replaced earlier.
Someone makes a moodboard and uses unlicensed images from Google (as you do in this phase) and passes it on to the next guy to work on it who thought the asset was final because the producer or someone else forgot to tell him it was not.
Suff like this can slip through the cracks.
StrikeFirst117
Banned
Telltale next time you Google and think an image is ok to use you might want to reverse google search the image first.
Pretty unacceptable for this to happen to be honest.
Pretty unacceptable for this to happen to be honest.
Yeah, but it still doesn't make it all right because you're supposed to pay for the use of stock photos in your product, and obviosuly they didn't make any effort to in this case.
GTR R35_Supra RZ
Banned
Mission accomplished, they know what they're doing..who's getting the press and articles on this @$!# , exactly. Ppl are curious know and want to see this themselves=buy.
..unless lawfirms get involved and this will be taken out of the shelves.
..unless lawfirms get involved and this will be taken out of the shelves.
GlamFM
Banned
Majukun
Member
curious about what?
it's a single image that has already been posted,that's kind of the end of it.
BibiMaghoo
Member
That is...unacceptable. Vastly more so than other asset placeholders that have fallen into games over the years.
SomedayTheFire
Member
Holy shit how?
If that was their goal they probably wouldn't have went with a pic of a person who just got assassinated.
Someone just massively fucked up.
Hentailover
Member
There's just no good way out of this.
Option 1: this is a placeholder they forgot to replace. Still bad, just because it's not done in public, it's still disrepsectful
Option 2: They did it intentionally, hoping people won't notice... Absurdly horrid and luckily, least likely possibility
Option 3: They just googled a picture and didn't source it. Still bad, cuz that means they used an image without getting a license for it. Because if they intended to pay for it, they'd quickly find out that it's not a stock photo for sale at all, and find out what it is in reality.
Option 1: this is a placeholder they forgot to replace. Still bad, just because it's not done in public, it's still disrepsectful
Option 2: They did it intentionally, hoping people won't notice... Absurdly horrid and luckily, least likely possibility
Option 3: They just googled a picture and didn't source it. Still bad, cuz that means they used an image without getting a license for it. Because if they intended to pay for it, they'd quickly find out that it's not a stock photo for sale at all, and find out what it is in reality.
GlamFM
Banned
This is most likely it. Though I dont see whats disrespectful about it.
Prodigal Son
Member
lmao wtf
someone fucked up hard
someone fucked up hard
mikezilla2
Member
Lol how the Hell is this not a Hoax !
Hentailover
Member
I find idea of using pictures of real dead people a bit disrespectful. Feel free to disagree.
Kaiser Swayze
Member
If I hadn't seen it on the news, I'd think that source photo was a movie still.
GlamFM
Banned
I disagree. Ever thought about what moodboards for COD or Fallout games look like?
If you want a dead guy in your game you look at what a dead guy looks like and work from there.
That the placeholder made it into the game is bad, but most likely an honest mistake.
That the image was used as a placeholder/reference is absolutely normal.
Jimmyfenix
Member
Telltale fucked up. Will probably take 8 months to release a statement or remove it knowing them
Unbelievable
Unbelievable
I think that is what happened here- the image looks so surreal (all the white, the free-hanging paintings, no blood) that they likely mistook it for a stock picture. Not an excuse at all, but that is the only logical explanation I can see.
Actually, I think the photo won a World Press Award or so for its unique vibe.
Check the clock, good Sir- it is 4:30am in for Telltale. Once they are awake, you can be sure they will address it.
Don't blame the entire company when it's probably the work of a single idiot
Really? Was pretty huge last year considering the current geo-political climate of Turkey. The photojournalist won multiple awards for the pictures.
Dead body in picture, but this is the picture that won the award.
Jawmuncher
Member
That picture is still the most surreal thing. Like it looks like a still from a movie. No disrespect intended. But I can see why someone wouldnt research it and just assume its good to go. As the thread has pointed out seems a lot of people think the same. Id have never known about its actual history if not for keeping track with news.
HotchieMotchie
Neo Member
Nvm
GlamFM
Banned
This is really not such a big deal as you guys want it to be.
-A placeholder made it into the game
-Telltale will appologize
-Telltale will replace the image
-People will move on with their lives
striferser
Huge Nickleback Fan
For real? I seldom read news, and this photo gone viral since it so fucking unreal as shown by other poster
Dragon1893
Member
Someone obviously forgot to replace a placeholder pic.
Very unfortunate situation.
Very unfortunate situation.
InsaneTiger
Member
WOW, this is not good.
Straight Edge
Member
You're post is too reasonable.
If they paid royalties for it, I see no problem. I doubt they paid royalties though.
To the people saying that they probably thought it was a stock photo... that's one hell of a picture to mistake for a stock photo, it won the most important photography award in the world.
Or BioWare.
To the people saying that they probably thought it was a stock photo... that's one hell of a picture to mistake for a stock photo, it won the most important photography award in the world.
Or BioWare.
Agent Gibbs
Member
So I take it some idiot who doesn't keep up with (old) news was tasked with finding an image of someone dead, google searches and then without checking the source of the image presumably assumed that death in the art gallery was a stock photo
If you assume they are incompetent its not nearly as bad as being unfeeling assholes right?
/sarcasm
If you assume they are incompetent its not nearly as bad as being unfeeling assholes right?
/sarcasm
I've seen the news at the time, photos and all. But i forgot all of it pretty quickly sadly.
Without this thread, i would have been incapable of recognizing the photo as a real life murder photo.
So yeah, honest dev mistake is all that is i'd say.
I mean, looking at the game screenshot, it looks a lot like a basic concept art. And concept artists rarely bothers with copyright or anything, they are creating a concept to show ambiant, athmosphere and stuff like that and if they can kit-bash stuff grabbed from google image to save time, they always will. And it's not a problem since it's not meant to end-up in the game but just to inspire the 3D artists and level designers.
The fuck up here is that the concept ended up in the game. It's more than likely that they wanted to do an actual render for the scene but lacked time and thus, just put the concept without thinking about it twice.
Yeah, I don't think this was done with ill intent. Some artist probably Google'd for an image, that one showed up and they mistook it for a stock image (which anyone not familiar with the incident might, it just looks surreal).
The real revelation here is: whoever does the art for Telltale is using sites like Google Images to source images, which is unprofessional as heck since by doing this they completely disregard copyright licenses, that's what stock photo services exist for. Picking this photo just busted them.
The real revelation here is: whoever does the art for Telltale is using sites like Google Images to source images, which is unprofessional as heck since by doing this they completely disregard copyright licenses, that's what stock photo services exist for. Picking this photo just busted them.
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