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Raise the flame shield: Your "controversial" gaming opinion.
- Thread starter Laughing Banana
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You can say that about most games held in high regards when they came out but you would attempt to play long after that. You need to enjoy them as historical experience and not judge them with the same metrics you would judge things released today. Let's face it, if a game isn't fun, it's not because it evolved past fun; it's because you changed man...
Yeah, Archie is still around. Though I don't know how many NEW stories they produce per year. I went and bought a volume since I was reading up on old comics I used to enjoy, and found they were quite boring.
Sseklebeast
Member
UT2K4 > UT99
Blizzard has sucked hard since WoW was released.
I cannot stand sandbox games.
Open world RPGs bore me pretty easily.
I had a ton of fun playing Phantasy Star 3 multiple times!
Final Fantasy 9 is crap.
Blighttown is perfectly playable.
Lost Izalith, Tomb of the Giants and Crystal Caverns are fine the way they are!
Japanese developers still make the best games.
Monster Hunter is fine without lock-on targetting.
I love SMT franchise but Devil Survivor is boring with shitty characters. ( You suck Yoohoo! )
Persona 2 > Persona 4 > Persona 3 + Fes ( still haven't finished P1 so can't comment yet )
Blizzard has sucked hard since WoW was released.
I cannot stand sandbox games.
Open world RPGs bore me pretty easily.
I had a ton of fun playing Phantasy Star 3 multiple times!
Final Fantasy 9 is crap.
Blighttown is perfectly playable.
Lost Izalith, Tomb of the Giants and Crystal Caverns are fine the way they are!
Japanese developers still make the best games.
Monster Hunter is fine without lock-on targetting.
I love SMT franchise but Devil Survivor is boring with shitty characters. ( You suck Yoohoo! )
Persona 2 > Persona 4 > Persona 3 + Fes ( still haven't finished P1 so can't comment yet )
cartman414
Member
Funny how you'd preface a Nintendo = overrated comment by praising one of their most overhyped. DKC was overhyped flash over substance. Sonic just can't hold a candle to Mario because of the screen's inability to keep up with Sonic (a malady shared with DKC, incidentally enough).
LightofRohan
Member
Agreed. But there is not that much horror... and people are too smart to be able to outrun, so you might as well fight back/shoot back and then it turns into a shooter. Unless you play as a young kid surviving post apocalypse from groups of marauders.
that might be kind of cool...
Night_Trekker
Member
I'm pretty sure you know what I mean, smartass. I planned to buy FPSs since I like the genre, and unfortunately, so many of them released after Halo had to have vehicles that controlled the same way, regenerating health/shields, a restriction on the number of weapons that could be carried at once, etc.
And before someone points out the games that each did one of these things before Halo, spare me. It's no coincidence that these design choices became popular after the mega-success of Halo, and it sucks for fans of... well, anything but those design choices in FPSs.
Fixed.
I haven't played it yet because I'm just a pussy but does Amnesia: Dark Descent have an actual monster?
TaroYamada
Member
I agree with this, and some have gotten better this gen than the previous. Chiefly SegaSammy is definitely better this gen than SegaSammy last gen (as in not counting Sega Corp.).
Also Gears of War is terrible.
I agree with everything in this post, I also think a lot of people play games for silly reasons.
Yes, but there is no way to defeat them so you are forced to hide/run away from them which is 1000x more effective than shooting them or having no enemies at all.
And they aren't dumb either. If they see you run into a room and close the door they will bash the door down. It's the worst
OmnipotentO
Member
I find World of Warcraft (and all MMORPGs I've tried thus far) incredibly boring.
Night_Trekker
Member
Oh, I forgot another: Shadow of the Collosus has a shitty ending that ruins the game's narrative for the sake of tying it to Ico. The ending makes no sense at all and is an embarrassing mis-step in an otherwise great game.
TUROK
Member
I see what you're saying, but for me it's balanced out by the movement of the character. Left joystick just gives you a greater degree of movement when compared to WASD.
cartman414
Member
4 and 6 are better than 7, which I find overrated.
Whitebison
Member
Skyrim is boring.
perfectnight
Banned
To add to this: Amnesia is better than pretty much every resident evil, fatal frame, etc games combined.
Wow. First actual Crystal Bearers fan I've ever seen.
Riposte
Member
Here is my take:
Survival Horror is relatively boring, shallow.
Third Person Shooters are fun, more so with a shitload of enemies you have to constantly dodge.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
DKC was great (and certainly leagues better than Super Mario World IMO), besides that horrible minekart level. Never played the sequels much, sadly. And the only time the screen doesn't keep up with Sonic is in Chemical Plant Zone AFAIK.
This guy gets it.
Dark Stalkers
Member
The best thing about video games isn't playing them, it's telling the internet how much I hate them.
Ico is terrible.
Wind Waker is a bad misstep.
Operation Darkness is decent.
The new NFL Blitz is different but still a good game.
Gothic 4/Risen/Divinity 2 are much more fun than Skyrim.
Qualifying moral decisions is stupid (possibly a communal opinion). Stealing should go unpunished in all games. Curious looting >>> moral repercussions.
Wind Waker is a bad misstep.
Operation Darkness is decent.
The new NFL Blitz is different but still a good game.
Gothic 4/Risen/Divinity 2 are much more fun than Skyrim.
Qualifying moral decisions is stupid (possibly a communal opinion). Stealing should go unpunished in all games. Curious looting >>> moral repercussions.
Is it though? I'm of the impression that even excluding casual/Facebook games, PC gaming is in a much healthier state than it has been at any time in basically the last decade. And that's largely due to the wealth of console ports we get. Now, if you want to talk about PC exclusives or the stagnation of PC game assets/graphics that would be another story.
cartman414
Member
That's great and all, but you missed the part about handheld-only games.
TaroYamada
Member
PC gaming is healthier, the fact that consoles have held PCs back graphically has made the barrier to entry much cheaper than in the past, comparatively. It's the only reason me and my friend switched to PC gaming.
I liked Dragon Age II. I didn't think it was as good as Origins, but I didn't find it to be a bad game.
I buy most of my multi-platform games of consoles, despite having a PC that is more than capable of running the PC version. I simply find consoles to be my preferred platform despite the fact that they are objectively inferior.
I buy most of my multi-platform games of consoles, despite having a PC that is more than capable of running the PC version. I simply find consoles to be my preferred platform despite the fact that they are objectively inferior.
perfectnight
Banned
The game looks pretty damn good. The art direction is nice.
I haven't played the game but it seemed like not a person in the world gave a crap about the it when it came out.
Ninja Moomin
Banned
My controversial opinion.
Halo 1 was a complete fluke...
The reason? Every halo campaign since has been an over-hyped joke. Bungie has never been able to replicate, with next to unlimited resource and profile, what they created in a hurry to get Halo ready for the Xbox launch.
I have high hopes for 343...
Halo 1 was a complete fluke...
The reason? Every halo campaign since has been an over-hyped joke. Bungie has never been able to replicate, with next to unlimited resource and profile, what they created in a hurry to get Halo ready for the Xbox launch.
I have high hopes for 343...
Yeah, and there were a lot of people disappointed that it was nothing like the original games (which I can understand since it was a relatively long going series. It got a lot of 5/10s...) The camera was bad and I actually rage quit in the first hour because it was that bad. But I went back in and got used to it, and once you really know how the battle system works it's pretty fun to play too. There is a lot to explore as well, and aside from a few times there isn't too much pull to continue with the main quest so you can just muck around in the world for awhile (which is really the best part.)
I wasn't being a smartass, I really don't see your point. Bad developers make bad retreads, but most people just wouldn't seek to buy those retreads. There actually aren't that many 'Halo clones' I can think, despite it's huge popularity. Many people took things from Halo, but I think for the better personally.
Game design is like any form of product design, the design that appeases the greatest number is the most effective.
I think Halo was the first FPS to really work very well on a gamepad, and it was designed to do so, those changes it bought are tied to that. It seems really the issue you have is more the fact FPSs have migrated to leading on a gamepad. That's also probably Halo's fault though thinking about it.
perfectnight
Banned
I had a similar experience with the crystal chronicle games. At first I thought they were very shallow Diablo clones, but I went back and got pretty hooked. Incidentally, all my favorite FF games are the spin-offs so I think I will give this a try now.
My dream survival horror title is actually a war game. You and possibly squad mates are stuck in enemy territory or recently withdrawn by forces and must deal with insurgents, booby traps, snipers (realistic, or at least realism based instead of shooters), and so forth.
You don't want to go in like a shooter because you don't want to draw attention to yourself in such an environment when the mission is to simply get out alive.
I'm not the only one! ;.;
It's definitely a game you have to savor, rather than rush through. It's still not something I can guarantee everyone would love, but I do wish people gave it more of a chance.
FateBreaker
Member
So much hate for FF9 in this thread. It makes my heart hurt.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
What gave it away?
The vacant stares? The mouth breathing? Or just his bipolar personality shifts?
ain't no thread, till thunder monkey enters the thread.
TheShampion
Member
Games are probably the most subjective entertainment medium there is, so why in the world are people so damned concerned about "reaching consensus"? So many reviewers and posters are so wrong-headed about "good" games vs. "bad" games that the vast majority of games criticism (and I mean everywhere, including Neogaf) is just pure rubbish. People get so wrapped up in trying to justify their individual experience as universial to how everyone should percieve a game that the majority of reviews just aren't worth much.
That is why I listen to podcasts and read OTs for people's experience through the game instead of listening to whether people think it is good or not. If someone describes a gameplay experience that sounds compelling to me, I will play it.
That is why I listen to podcasts and read OTs for people's experience through the game instead of listening to whether people think it is good or not. If someone describes a gameplay experience that sounds compelling to me, I will play it.
He's highly perceptive, but he can only communicate through grunts and yelps.
I don't care for Uncharted, and would rather have Naughty Dog make Jak games.
I think Kid Icarus is a pretty worthless property, and that Uprising looks like trash compared to the talent behind it.
I don't like FPS games, and having a game in first person makes me want to avoid them.
I think SCEA is the worst branch of SCE.
Western RPGs have too many glitches, and I'd much rather they narrow down their scope to better develop their games.
A lot of Western RPGs also have an ugly very samey art style.
Zelda utterly bores me, and while I see the appeal and appreciate some of the things the franchise has done for gaming overall, I don't think it should be held to the prestige it currently has.
Microsoft's entire first party/second party lineup is worthless.
Sony Japan is heavily under appreciated.
I think Kid Icarus is a pretty worthless property, and that Uprising looks like trash compared to the talent behind it.
I don't like FPS games, and having a game in first person makes me want to avoid them.
I think SCEA is the worst branch of SCE.
Western RPGs have too many glitches, and I'd much rather they narrow down their scope to better develop their games.
A lot of Western RPGs also have an ugly very samey art style.
Zelda utterly bores me, and while I see the appeal and appreciate some of the things the franchise has done for gaming overall, I don't think it should be held to the prestige it currently has.
Microsoft's entire first party/second party lineup is worthless.
Sony Japan is heavily under appreciated.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
I've posted 14 times in this thread!
What now?!
No see that's just because Nintendo is lazy.
He's also a child that murders a lot of things with swords and bombs.
you're too reasonable for this thread. get out already.
before a mod notices your post and locks the thread.