Yes it is, however used in the context of Jeremy Lin, it becomes something questionably racist.
Many times. It's a very common phrase in sports.
True dat.
Yes it is, however used in the context of Jeremy Lin, it becomes something questionably racist.
Many times. It's a very common phrase in sports.
Irrelevant.
I like how the article has to explain how puns work.
Not at all. Reason I asked was because he took issue to the idea of the term being insensitive. But it was never going to be insensitive to him was it? But to Asian's. In that sense he has to broaden his viewpoint of such terminology and try and consider the feelings of others, and not just himself.
If they were gonna use the term on a white or black player, but then stopped when referring to asian players.Yes it is, however used in the context of Jeremy Lin, it becomes something questionably racist.
Not at all. Reason I asked was because he took issue to the idea of the term being insensitive. But it was never going to be insensitive to him was it? But to Asian's. In that sense he has to broaden his viewpoint of such terminology and try and consider the feelings of others, and not just himself.
With respect to the article itself. It doesn't help that the "chink" in question, was Lin himself. So it's indirectly referring to Lin as the Chink. I'd say that was pretty damn questionable.
If they were gonna use the term on a white or black player, but then stopped when referring to an asian players.
Isnt that Reverse Racism?
If they were gonna use the term on a white or black player, but then stopped when referring to an asian players.
Isnt that Reverse Racism?
The thing is, though, that many people are not making the argument on the basis that the headline is from a website that always uses bad puns in its headlines, which is somewhat reasonable. They're arguing that using "chink in the armor" with regard to an Asian person is inherently insensitive, which is what I take issue with.
Not at all. Reason I asked was because he took issue to the idea of the term being insensitive. But it was never going to be insensitive to him was it? But to Asian's. In that sense he has to broaden his viewpoint of such terminology and try and consider the feelings of others, and not just himself.
With respect to the article itself. It doesn't help that the "chink" in question, was Lin himself. So it's indirectly referring to Lin as the Chink. I'd say that was pretty damn questionable.
Wouldn't it be the equivalent of running a headline such as "The Heat show a niggardly defense" with a Lebron James image to go with it? The word isn't inherently racist, but few people would be comfortable with it.
Why would race even be brought up?Not really, just acknowledging the fact that race changes the context.
Wouldn't an ice cream with fortune cookies in it that was fried chicken flavor be awesome?!
a) only perpetuates the very sorts of thinking that they're trying to undo, and b) cheapens actual instances of prejudice.
"Chink" is a racial slur targeting Asian people.Why would race even be brought up?
No. The "You wouldn't understand" argument is a losing one. Always.
Or ice cream INSIDE the fortune cookie?
Or ice cream INSIDE the fortune cookie?
And then the fortune cookie was fried in 11 delicious herbs and spices!
What I'm talking about is the fact that completely random words are now so "racially charged" that people get offended over things that aren't even meant to be offensive in the first place. "Chink in the armor", like a whole lot of people in this topic have said, is a completely racially neutral phrase that doesn't in any way intend to offend. It's exactly about intent.
Why should I have to avoid using something that's clearly innocuous in terms of its context just because people might possibly maybe perchance perceive it as racially insensitive? That's not ignorance, that's expecting people to think for even a second about the context in which a phrase was used.
I don't believe it is at all. It's just one a lot of un-sympathetic, often racist people like to downplay. I've heard it from so many people throughout my life. Always to defend something that was inherently offensive. Truth is, it is hard understand till you are on the opposite end.
I'm sure if White people went to China or whatever, they'd have exactly the same issues. And exactly the same sort of arguments would come up from both sides. But the White person on the receiving end is always inevitably going to have a more raw and personal take on it, usually based on direct negative experiences.
The more bothersome thing I've heard in regards to Jeremy Lin was when sports announcers refer to him as "surprisingly quick or agile". It's like surprisingly? What's the supposed to mean haha.
Whatever, I don't sweat this kind of stuff too much. Just grow some thick skin.
Holy SHIT man we are on to something.
Either 'chink in the armor' is a racist phrase(in any context) or it isnt. Saying 'we can only use chink in the armor when referring to non asian players' is an incredibly retarded rule. When you make asians 'special' then yes thats reverse racism.No, that's you being willfully blind to context. Go be dumb somewhere else.
That would be racist cause Im pretty sure 'niggardly defense' isnt a common phrase and sounds stupid to begin with.Wouldn't it be the equivalent of running a headline such as "The Heat show a niggardly defense" with a Lebron James image to go with it? The word isn't inherently racist, but few people would be comfortable with it.
Either 'chink in the armor' is a racist phrase(in any context) or it isnt. Saying 'we can only use chink in the armor when referring to non asian players' is an incredibly retarded rule. When you make asians 'special' then yes that reverse racism.
Either 'chink in the armor' is a racist phrase(in any context) or it isnt.
This country is chock full of sensitive pussies that are offended by anything and everything.
Well I just read the first page but wow. People justifying racism on GAF?
It would be no different from playing into stereotypes of another race. I'd like to hear justification for an ice cream that had fried chicken in it, and a headline that had nigger in it.
Either 'chink in the armor' is a racist phrase(in any context) or it isnt. Saying 'we can only use chink in the armor when referring to non asian players' is an incredibly retarded rule. When you make asians 'special' then yes thats reverse racism.
Already deservedly savaged, but that's the dumbest thing I've seen on the forums today. Language does not work like that.Either 'chink in the armor' is a racist phrase(in any context) or it isnt.
No. The chocolate ice cream will offend black people and somone will find a way to be offended by the strawberry ice cream.
Already deservedly savaged, but that's the dumbest thing I've seen on the forums today. Language does not work like that.
I wonder what he thinks context actually means.
I don't believe it is at all. It's just one a lot of un-sympathetic, often racist people like to downplay. I've heard it from so many people throughout my life. Always to defend something that was inherently offensive. Truth is, it is hard understand till you are on the opposite end.
I'm sure if White people went to China or whatever, they'd have exactly the same issues. And exactly the same sort of arguments would come up from both sides. But the White person on the receiving end is always inevitably going to have a more raw and personal take on it, usually based on direct negative experiences.
Either 'chink in the armor' is a racist phrase(in any context) or it isnt.
'Nigger rigging' is a racist term no matter what context.Words don't work that way.There's not a single meaning for each word that fits into all situations.
Context is crucial.
'Nigger rigging' is a racist term no matter what context.
While 'Chink in the armor' varies depending on the context. Thats ridiculous.
'Nigger rigging' is a racist term no matter what context.
While 'Chink in the armor' varies depending on the context. Thats ridiculous.
'Nigger rigging' is a racist term no matter what context.
While 'Chink in the armor' varies depending on the context. Thats ridiculous.
Where are you from and what's your ethnic background?.
'Nigger rigging' is a racist term no matter what context.
While 'Chink in the armor' varies depending on the context. Thats ridiculous.
'Nigger rigging' is a racist term no matter what context.
While 'Chink in the armor' varies depending on the context. Thats ridiculous.
"Chink" can refer to a small gap or slit. Unless your writing about something that may be associated with an asian where race isnt even the topic."Chink" can refer to a small gap or slit. Derived from that, it's also been used as a racial slur against Asian people.
"Chink" can refer to a small gap or slit. Unless your writing about something that may be associated with an asian where race isnt even the topic.
Great reasoning there.