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The Walking Dead - Season 2 - Sundays on AMC

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The writers are either brilliant or morons. They've successfully made the stupidity of the human beings a bigger threat to their survival than the zombies. Either that's some deeply meta shit or they're incompetent.
 

tokkun

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Meh still seems like BS to me. It takes a shitload more strength to rip a man open than to pull a leg out of the mud. I guess "motivation" could explain it.

The show obviously fucked up trying to portray them as science zombies with the CDC stuff rather than supernatural zombies.

If you want to complain about their leg vs arm strength, why not complain about how zombies who get locked in a room with no water for a couple months don't dry out? Why doesn't all their blood leak out from wounds? Or if the blood is coagulated, how do they transport energy to their muscles? Or why they alternate from shuffling around to being able to climb chain-link fences?

They should have went with Weekend at Bernie's 2 and just made them animated by voodoo. Then the answer to all the inconsistency could be, "hey, who knows how voodoo works?"
 
The show obviously fucked up trying to portray them as science zombies with the CDC stuff rather than supernatural zombies.

If you want to complain about their leg vs arm strength, why not complain about how zombies who get locked in a room with no water for a couple months don't dry out? Why doesn't all their blood leak out from wounds? Or if the blood is coagulated, how do they transport energy to their muscles? Or why they alternate from shuffling around to being able to climb chain-link fences?

They should have went with Weekend at Bernie's 2 and just made them animated by voodoo. Then the answer to all the inconsistency could be, "hey, who knows how voodoo works?"

The thing that's always scared me about zombies is that they never tire. They aren't supernaturally strong or anything. Their danger lies in numbers. 1 zombie can't knock in a door, get 10 zombies all walking into the same door and it gives slowly but surely simply due to the weight of 10 bodies pushing against it non-stop. 1 zombie doesn't rip you apart, a pack tearing in all directions does that. Later in the comics, Rick and the rest of the group are walking through thinly spread herds, hacking at will, and none of them get touched most of the time. They can't do that with TWD AMC zombies. TWD AMC zombies run, climb fences, rip people apart single handedly, leave fresh kills to sneak around, stop moaning when they are off camera, etc. Those are all things that DON'T happen in the show's source material. Screw decades of zombie fiction. This is The Walking Dead. Not Night of the Living Dead or any of Romero's other offerings. This show doesn't need writers. The story boards were made the second issue 1 hit shelves. Dale didn't have to be disemboweled to be killed off, a SCRATCH does the job... Jesus, there were so many OBVIOUS WAYS to handle that that would have made more sense and been more entertaining to watch.

Edit: the whole time I'm watching Dale's death scene, I'm wondering. "When is he going to push the walker off and did he get Scratched/bitten..." Instead I get, did that thing seriously just rip his guts out? That was stupid...
 

SpeedingUptoStop

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Zombies are impossible, so a lot of complaints can be put up to suspension of disbelief. However, there's got to be some sort of consistency, particularly with how they sound. Fucking pack of stealth zombies surprised Shane and Andrea in that town for god's sakes, how the fuck do these things not make any noise at the most inopportune moments?

Dale was walking a straight line out to the fied when he saw the cow in front of him. Then he turns around the zombie is just THERE. At this point they might as well say the zombies have teleportation powers.
 

Dai101

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The show obviously fucked up trying to portray them as science zombies with the CDC stuff rather than supernatural zombies.

They never said anything about their origins. Edwin Jenner (the CDC doctor) said it could be fungal, viral, parasitic or even the wrath of god (that last part said by Jaqui) but never said anything about what causes them to reanimate after death.
 

AkuMifune

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Dale was walking a straight line out to the fied when he saw the cow in front of him. Then he turns around the zombie is just THERE. At this point they might as well say the zombies have teleportation powers.

It just ate a big lunch and needed a zombie nap. Heard Dale and thought of dessert.
 

Korey

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My friend started watching this show and has caught up to the last episodes and he says it's like the worst show ever, the writing is horrible and the characters are all unlikeable. So why do you guys watch it?
 

Alucrid

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My friend started watching this show and has caught up to the last episodes and he says it's like the worst show ever, the writing is horrible and the characters are all unlikeable. So why do you guys watch it?
Because I'm already vested into it.
 
My friend started watching this show and has caught up to the last episodes and he says it's like the worst show ever, the writing is horrible and the characters are all unlikeable. So why do you guys watch it?

Because I like zombies. And I also have hopes that those zombies will destroy each member of this horrible cast. Dale was just the beginning. Team Zombie all the way.
 
My friend started watching this show and has caught up to the last episodes and he says it's like the worst show ever, the writing is horrible and the characters are all unlikeable. So why do you guys watch it?

Totally agree with your friend. I watch because I like the zombie effects. Some of the best in the biz. I also like the cast; particularly the guy that plays Shane.
 

big ander

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In response to the general argument of "you people nitpick too much/suspend disbelief more/etc.":
people really only tend to nitpick or hate characters as much as they do with this show when the core of the show is tedious. small errors and logical slip-ups are more likely to go unnoticed when they're insulated by quality and action. Since TWD fails to provide that often enough, people notice things like Dale walking across a barren, empty, quiet field, seeing only an animal carcass, and walking up to it slowly only to have a walker be suddenly an arms length from his chest.
My friend started watching this show and has caught up to the last episodes and he says it's like the worst show ever, the writing is horrible and the characters are all unlikeable. So why do you guys watch it?

because we're not hyperbolic and uninformed like your friend. opinions and all, sure, but he's wrong. This show is very bad on the whole, and the writing is pretty messy, but there are glimpses of greatness, the concept is compelling, and there's potential for it to grow. I was hoping that growth would happen this season, instead absolutely nothing has happened. But we'll see what happens next season.
 

Dai101

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My friend started watching this show and has caught up to the last episodes and he says it's like the worst show ever, the writing is horrible and the characters are all unlikeable. So why do you guys watch it?

Just to nit pick and bitch on GAF of course.
 
The walker could have been lying down in the grass and gotten up as Dale approached.

These types of walkers are mentioned in the comic - some wander around and others just hang out until food comes along.
 
My friend started watching this show and has caught up to the last episodes and he says it's like the worst show ever, the writing is horrible and the characters are all unlikeable. So why do you guys watch it?

Your friend should start watching The Killing and join in on the fun.
 

big ander

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The walker could have been lying down in the grass and gotten up as Dale approached.

These types of walkers are mentioned in the comic - some wander around and others just hang out until food comes along.

yeah I did forget about those. Still, the field looks very flat and open, and I even recall a wide shot of the whole place...it's simply weird presentation, even if the logic does work out in the end. The kind of weird presentation that is only reamed when the rest of the show isn't working.
 
My friend started watching this show and has caught up to the last episodes and he says it's like the worst show ever, the writing is horrible and the characters are all unlikeable. So why do you guys watch it?
first tell your friend he is retarded for sticking with a show so long that he clearly hates. I don't get people, I understand waiting 5 episodes or something, but we're 17 eps in, save us all some time and just stop.

And why do we watch it. Because it's entertaining. I watch mad men for mad men, I watch breaking bad for breaking bad, I watched the wire for the wire, and I watch walking dead for the walking dead. I'm not looking for more, just some entertainment.
 

Sean

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Glen Mazzara (TWD showrunner) just retweeted this :lol

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LakeEarth

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Seriously though, that character should've died during the first episode. They clearly have no plan to do anything with him at all.
 

bengraven

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lol like I said before, would be glorious if he was alive in the series finale, survived right from the start, and barely said anything along the way.

He should actually become mute. Like during the third season maybe someone will tie him down and cut his tongue off or something.

Then he turns the camera and smiles and shrugs, winks, then some cheesy 60s theme music plays him off.
 
The writers are either brilliant or morons. They've successfully made the stupidity of the human beings a bigger threat to their survival than the zombies. Either that's some deeply meta shit or they're incompetent.

Well, in the comics, the core concept of the story is that
they are all "the walking dead" and that its the humans that ARE the bigger danger. The zombies are a danger, but the way the world has gone has caused humans to become the bigger danger to themselves.
In the show however, stupidity does come into play because well...It's television.
 
My friend started watching this show and has caught up to the last episodes and he says it's like the worst show ever, the writing is horrible and the characters are all unlikeable. So why do you guys watch it?

I don't understand anyone who continues to watch if they think the show is awful. It has it's flaws, the writing is really inconsistent but it's still enjoyable to watch.

The second half of season 2 has been much better than pretty much anything since the pilot so I'm looking forward to season 3.
 

Raoh

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Well, in the comics, the core concept of the story is that
they are all "the walking dead" and that its the humans that ARE the bigger danger. The zombies are a danger, but the way the world has gone has caused humans to become the bigger danger to themselves.
In the show however, stupidity does come into play because well...It's television.

That's what I hope Netflix/HULU/ETC realize, we don't want more dumbed down television but on the web/streamed... we also want more intelligent/mature programming that does not treat like a 2 year old.
 
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