The_lascar
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Golden Week.
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Media Create Sales: Week 11 {2012.03.12 - 2012.03.18}
- Thread starter Mpl90
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Golden Week.
On a serious note Nintendo dedicated last year to multiplayer and party games, Wii Party and Wii Sports Resort are bundled with the console, Rhythm Heaven Fever, Go Vacation, Just Dance Wii and Itadaki Street Wii saw releases.
Mario Party 9 belongs to a genre that remains active, it's Nintendo's next and last big release for Wii and will get lion's share at marketing. The big surprise will be if it will sell less than one million, not more.
Mario Party 9 belongs to a genre that remains active, it's Nintendo's next and last big release for Wii and will get lion's share at marketing. The big surprise will be if it will sell less than one million, not more.
Yes...and in theory, shouldn't it be the best release Wii ever had, in terms of sales potential, in occasion of the GW period? Or at least one of the best?
I mean
2007: Super Paper Mario ( the week before the pre-GW period ) - 150k / 500k
Big Brain Academy: 42k - 270k
2008: Nothing relevant ( but they launched Mario Kart Wii two weeks before )
2009: MH3G launched one week earlier - 140k / 280k
2010: ...Kensak
2011: Nothing.
Yep, the second best GW period release on Wii, if we count also one week earlier the pre-GW week. If not, it's just the best.
BishopLamont
Banned
No you're just using it wrong.
test_account
XP-39C²
Makes sense. Thanks
I don't know for Tomodatchi but maybe we'll hear something new from Nintendo soon.
JoshuaJSlone
Member
PS3's best years are about 1.6 million. If it maintains that rate, it would reach 11 million in early 2014, 12 million in late 2014, and 15 million in 2016. However, systems do not tend to maintain their peak performance forever. Especially with major competition hitting from the market leader this year.Cassovia said:
You forgot that PS3 will hit another peak once Sony drops its price to mass parket price point after WiiU is released. So it is totally possible for it to hit 15 million since 3DS hit 5 million a year with the price cut.
EDIT: Apparently my sarcasm alarm didn't sound off and people thought I was serious.
electroplankton
Banned
Mass market without mass market games can do nothing.
PS3 actually still has a really good shot at several more games that are guaranteed 500k+ sellers with a few more 750k+ sellers. We know there's at least 1 more Final Fantasy game (Versus) and possibly 2 if they go ahead and do a XIII-3. Actually Versus should have the potential for over a million, right? There's the mainline Tales games of course and also possibly Persona 5 if Atlus ever gets around to getting that out the door. Maybe that's a stretch but Persona seems to have grown in popularity so I'll call it an outside shot. And I'm pretty sure we'll see another revision of Gundam Extreme VS whenever Namco decides to home port Full Boost.
Coupled with the plethora of special edition PS3's that get released for the high profile games and I would say the PS3 definitely still has a decent future in Japan. Or as good a future as a home console can hope to have there. 10 million consoles should be a lock and 12 million is not out of the range of possibility. 15 million would be sort of shocking.
frankie_baby
Member
While cutting the price will obviously boost sales over what they otherwise would've been it is impossible to say wether they will hit a new peak or not
Plus also can sony even afford a price drop on it this year with a cut in vita now surely unavoidable
test_account
XP-39C²
I wonder what the PS3 and Wii price will be when WiiU comes out.
I think it depends much on what the WiiU price is. If the WiiU price is 25k yen, then i'm pretty sure that Sony will drop the PS3 price to at least 20k yen. Until PS4 comes out, PS3 will be the competitor to the WiiU. There is after all a lot of people who havnt bought a PS3 yet, so there are most likely many potential consumers out there.
electroplankton
Banned
Yeah, that's the problem: PS3 has a really predictable line-up every year, that hardly will constantly bring the mass to jump on the ship. A new Yakuza, a Final Fantasy, a new Gundam, a new Musou, a new Atelier. it's like a circle that repeats itself every year. Remember that PS3 weekly average is not that strong and it should sustain its peak YTD for other 3 years at least to reach such numbers.
True and it's impossible to predict what the market will do once the Wii U hits but I still think if you are a betting man it would be safe to bet that the PS3 will exceed 10 million in Japan while still giving at least a 50% chance for it to reach 12 million before it's all said and done.
BishopLamont
Banned
Price cuts slow the trending down, it doesn't keep sales at its peak for long term, especially a year like people think.
Add to the fact that the Wii-U is assuredly going share some future PS3 games makes things even more difficult for it.
Then PS4/Nextbox.
End of 2005 PS2 sales:
PS2 - 78,646
End of 2011 PS3 sales:
PS3 - 67,199
End of 2006 these were PS2 numbers:
5.) PlayStation 2 - 23,115 | 26,263 | 1,297,667 | 20,002,291
By 2012:
PS2 | 1.165 | 1.363 | 1.638 | 12.032 | 19.884 | 21.786.139
1.8M in 6 years. PS2 software support didn't stop for years. PS2 numbers dropped drastically as soon as there was a new market leader (DS). PS3 isn't even the home console leader let alone the market leader and its library isn't even as strong as the PS2. The advantage it has is the fact that it has more potential/room to grow, 8M vs PS2's 20M and its price, but that doesn't mean it'll realise it.
PS2's EOL software support was exclusive to itself so hardware sales was all to itself. PS3 will share games with the Wii-U so software support could be a bit stronger than PS2's, but if the Wii-U hits it big, hardware sales will skew towards Wii-U instead of the PS3. You're not gonna double your total hardware sales by rehashing the same games people have already been exposed to since the console was released and there's no evidence to suggest otherwise.
Add to the fact that the Wii-U is assuredly going share some future PS3 games makes things even more difficult for it.
Then PS4/Nextbox.
End of 2005 PS2 sales:
PS2 - 78,646
End of 2011 PS3 sales:
PS3 - 67,199
End of 2006 these were PS2 numbers:
5.) PlayStation 2 - 23,115 | 26,263 | 1,297,667 | 20,002,291
By 2012:
PS2 | 1.165 | 1.363 | 1.638 | 12.032 | 19.884 | 21.786.139
1.8M in 6 years. PS2 software support didn't stop for years. PS2 numbers dropped drastically as soon as there was a new market leader (DS). PS3 isn't even the home console leader let alone the market leader and its library isn't even as strong as the PS2. The advantage it has is the fact that it has more potential/room to grow, 8M vs PS2's 20M and its price, but that doesn't mean it'll realise it.
PS2's EOL software support was exclusive to itself so hardware sales was all to itself. PS3 will share games with the Wii-U so software support could be a bit stronger than PS2's, but if the Wii-U hits it big, hardware sales will skew towards Wii-U instead of the PS3. You're not gonna double your total hardware sales by rehashing the same games people have already been exposed to since the console was released and there's no evidence to suggest otherwise.
frankie_baby
Member
I'm wondering if we could be looking at 2 consequitive 100k+ weeks from the 3ds comung up, with this weeks double whammy of kid icarus and the new colour and next weeks kingdom hearts, shoulf at least be big bumps
Bruno MB
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When Kingdom Hearts: 358/2 Days was released Nintendo DS almost doubled its sales (from 39,464 to 73,056). It is also true that there also was a sizeable release along with the Kingdom Hearts title, Gyakuten Kenji (Ace Attorney Investigations: Miles Edgeworth).
About MarioParty9: Wii's not in it's best momentum ever, but we saw a lot of "family" or "party" game perform really well in 2011. I think that MP9 could do very well. Maybe it won't hit the million mark, but it will be be very close to it, imho.
About PS3: it's doing well now, especially in terms of software, but it's not so outstanding in terms of absolute HW numbers (we saw the graph that compared how much the Wii decrese and how PS3 was able to keep its sales constant) and actually I don't see any huge new unexpected release in terms of software or new hardware accessory/device (à là Wii Fit) that could boost its sales too much (in terms of weekly sales). At the end, the gap between Wii and PS3 will be reduced compared to the first years different performance, of course, but I don't think that it will be possible for it to surpasse Wii's LTD. And I don't think that look at 3ds performance could be useful to foresee PS3's future performance...
About PS3: it's doing well now, especially in terms of software, but it's not so outstanding in terms of absolute HW numbers (we saw the graph that compared how much the Wii decrese and how PS3 was able to keep its sales constant) and actually I don't see any huge new unexpected release in terms of software or new hardware accessory/device (à là Wii Fit) that could boost its sales too much (in terms of weekly sales). At the end, the gap between Wii and PS3 will be reduced compared to the first years different performance, of course, but I don't think that it will be possible for it to surpasse Wii's LTD. And I don't think that look at 3ds performance could be useful to foresee PS3's future performance...
frankie_baby
Member
The ds also had a vastly larger userbase when days came out than the 3ds does now so its probable that far more kingdom hearts fans had one anywayso at least the potential is there for a much larger hardware bump
Wouldn't it have been easier to just make the combined table a view? Or convert the old tables into views of the combined table based on tracking column?
Should've expressed your desire sooner. =P
frankie_baby
Member
Couple of weeks? We've been foreseeing the vita 10k thing for a couple of months now
frankie_baby
Member
Never got my predictions in for this week (gaf was down) but i'm gonna look into my crystal ball for later today and say kid icarus will open with 173k
In about 3 hour and 40 minutes. Media Create results release at 12:00am JST every Thursday (or 3:00pm GMT every Wednesday if you would prefer).
frankie_baby
Member
About 4pm
frankie_baby
Member
What kid icarus? Of course it will
Smiles and Cries
Member
I hope KIU ends up joining the 3 kings MH/3DL/MK7
sell 4 million in Japan
Sakurai deserves it
sell 4 million in Japan
Sakurai deserves it
Gianni Merryman
Member
You know, I think Kindom hearts 3D is one that's going to be difficult to predict, in its first week it could sell anything from 150/200k to 300k+ as far as I'm concerned.
In fact I reckon KH3D is extremely important strategically for 3DS and could affect its outlook in 2012 one way or the other.
electroplankton
Banned
no chart yet?
Captain Smoker
Member
No, Famitsu is slow today. ;__;
slaughterking
Member
In 1 hour. Daylight saving time kicked in in Europe.
test_account
XP-39C²
I dont think that Japan has daylight saving, so it will be "delayed" 1 hour. This would also mean that the MC numbers will be out at 5pm instead of 4pm.
EDIT: Already mentioned
Isn't it the other way round?
EDIT: late, what the post before mine says is correct
electroplankton
Banned
I dont think that Japan has daylight saving, so it will be "delayed" 1 hour. This would also mean that the MC numbers will be out at 5pm instead of 4pm.
EDIT: Already mentioned
Yeah, it makes sense. Thanks!
test_account
XP-39C²
Not in spring time, then the clock is moved one hour foward. In autum, then the clock is moved one hour backwards.
Gravity Daze tops 100k (shipped games + DL version) in Japan
https://twitter.com/#!/K_Toyama/status/184976384882515968
KH3D shouldn't be a difficult to predict release. It's the next major KH game.
If it wasn't for the shockingly low comgnet preorders and the FFXIII-2 bomba I wouldn't expect any less than 380-400k in the first week.
https://twitter.com/#!/K_Toyama/status/184976384882515968
KH3D shouldn't be a difficult to predict release. It's the next major KH game.
If it wasn't for the shockingly low comgnet preorders and the FFXIII-2 bomba I wouldn't expect any less than 380-400k in the first week.
electroplankton
Banned
Yeah. Surely, the fact of being on a new console could have affected the preorders.
So it seems likely that they've sold over 30k on PSN alone?
Opus Angelorum
Member
Is that good or bad? I'm assuming bad.
Is that considered respectable?
Great if so, nice to see a good game and new IP do well.
If it was 100k sold, then that would mean around a 1:5 pick up ratio (im just rounding vita off as 500k), that would be pretty good if you ask me.
Smiles and Cries
Member
how is 100K doing well unless we are talking first week here?