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Wii U Speculation thread IV: Photoshop rumors and image memes

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HylianTom

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Cabbie said:
Ah shit, I forgot how much of an emotional shotgun FMA is. Sorry you two. D:

I'm glad there are fans in here though
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No, no worries. I've had my cry for the week. It was good. And the memories were good too.

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So, uhh.. how 'bout them NPD numbers? Looks like the Vita's DOA, eh?
 
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IdeaMan

My source is my ass!
DefectiveReject said:
Anyone heard of any new 2.04 sdk as it seems to have settled at 2.03
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Well, from my last week post and the following searches of wsippel, we can narrow the release of the SDK 2.03 at the beginning of april, maybe very late march for some middleware (as others and big third-parties were still on the 2.02 at the end of march).

They were on the 2.02 version for a few months, maybe it will be the case for the 2.03.
 
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Redford

aka Cabbie
Music in original was better, story obviously got a little messed up. I'd say Brotherhood was better by a smidgen.

Anyways, sorry again Tom and also for getting us off topic!

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Sony will be as laughable as always this year.
 
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DefectiveReject

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IdeaMan said:
Well, from my last week post and the following searches of wsippel, we can narrow the release of the SDK 2.03 at the beginning of april, maybe very late march for some middleware (as others and big third-parties were still on the 2.02 at the end of march).

The 2.02 version was relevant for a few months, maybe it will be the case for the 2.03.
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I hope not as I want them having final kits out before then.... shouldn't they be in production soon to have launch numbers for November?
 
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BurntPork

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IdeaMan said:
45 was an assumption. It's just that even if there will be layers of increase until their projects releases, it won't be to a point of doubling the framerate from what i know at the moment.

Don't forget the context, and the more important point, this fluidity was witnessed while another view of the main screen was rendered on the padlet, a pretty demanding thing resource-wise. Use the DRC for a 2D inventory/map/virtual buttons, and studios will be able to tap into a non-negligible additional pool of capabilities, with positive results on the main screen (+fps, +IQ, we can even imagine +more intricate scenes with a dynamic engine).

For these titles, you'll basically have a 1x Xbox360 on your TV + a 0,3/0,4/0,5/0,6x Xbox 360 on your hands (480p "current gen" content in terms of complexity + the fact that calculating a different angle of what is displayed on the TV is though as some techies explained in thread 3) + 0,3/0,4/0,5/0,6x Xbox 360 thanks to final graphical polish, additions of effects in the end of development, better image quality, better framerate, thanks to new dev kits, sdk, further hardware and software optimizations, better handling of the asymmetrical hardware setup, improvement on the method to "dual render", etc.

And all this for third-parties ports or titles using inhouse engines already seen before, so expect more from first-parties.

It will be a noticeable leap in the hands of competent & serious & at least a tad ambitious and not-lazy developers.
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In other words, we lack the info to build a complete picture.

We need to go deeper.

HylianTom said:
No, no worries. I've had my cry for the week. It was good. And the memories were good too.

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So, uhh.. how 'bout them NPD numbers? Looks like the Vita's DOA, eh?
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At least Sony gave PR. :/
 
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BY2K

Membero Americo
Cabbie said:
Music in original was better, story obviously got a little messed up. I'd say Brotherhood was better by a smidgen.

Anyways, sorry again Tom and also for getting us off topic!

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Sony will be as laughable as always this year.
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The only year I remember them being really bad was 06.

Though "Jeremy" was pretty silly.
 
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IdeaMan

My source is my ass!
BurntPork said:
In other words, we lack the info to build a complete picture.

We need to go deeper.
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Well, this picture is pretty complete and accurate for big third-parties at least serious and motivated for their Wii U ports, "extended" ports, and exclusive titles using already-used-before engines.

Now, i haven't witnessed first-parties masterpieces, i can just try to make informed speculation about it :)

But we'll be impressed. Not 10x-xbox360-impressed, but not just Nintendo-on-a-1x-Xbox360-hey-look-they-were-already-great-on-wii-imagine-what-they-can-do-on-their-xbox3601.2-repackaged-impressed either. The Wii U will bring some things new to the table, hardware & graphical features wise.
 
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DefectiveReject

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IdeaMan said:
Well, this picture is pretty complete and accurate for big third-parties at least serious and motivated for their Wii U ports, "extended" ports, and exclusive titles using already-used-before engines.

Now, i haven't witnessed first-parties masterpieces, i can just try to make informed speculation about it :)

But we'll be impressed. Not 10x-xbox360-impressed, but not just Nintendo-on-a-1x-Xbox360-hey-look-they-were-already-great-on-wii-imagine-what-they-can-do-on-their-xbox3601.2-repackage-impressed either. The Wii U will bring some things new to the table, hardware & graphical features wise.
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No matter how much you preach some people don want to know... like religious people and God or Hipsters and Apple.
 
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Nekki

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Just thinking about what retro has in store for us, gets me all shaky...

Although i wish it wasn't an FPS... and if it has to be an FPS i hope they find a way around it so it's not just shooting around, and a military story slapped in (like most shooters nowaday).

In that regard, i think the only shooter I liked in these late years has been bioshock... hmm.
 
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HylianTom

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Nekki said:
Just thinking about what retro has in store for us, gets me all shaky...

Although i wish it wasn't an FPS... and if it has to be an FPS i hope they find a way around it so it's not just shooting around, and a military story slapped in (like most shooters nowaday).

In that regard, i think the only shooter I liked in these late years has been bioshock... hmm.
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This is precisely how I feel about a Retro FPS.
If it's a military shooter, my three-word stance is: "what a waste."

Gimme adventure!
 
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DefectiveReject

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Nekki said:
Just thinking about what retro has in store for us, gets me all shaky...

Although i wish it wasn't an FPS... and if it has to be an FPS i hope they find a way around it so it's not just shooting around, and a military story slapped in (like most shooters nowaday).

In that regard, i think the only shooter I liked in these late years has been bioshock... hmm.
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I'd like a FPS done differently.
maybe some puzzle elements thrown in and some upgrades and some flying monsters.

They could call it Metroid Prime 4... :)
 
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GameplayWhore

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HylianTom said:
This is precisely how I feel about a Retro FPS.
If it's a military shooter, my three-word stance is: "what a waste."

Gimme adventure!
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Well, didn't somebody at Retro say a few months back that the thing they were working on was something that the fans were specifically clamoring for from them?


ViewtifulJC said:
It's fuckin' DONKEY KONG COUNTRY
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Why would you need to hire a 3D environment artist from a company that pretty much exclusively makes first person shooters for a side scrolling platformer?
 
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IdeaMan

My source is my ass!
Nekki said:
Just thinking about what retro has in store for us, gets me all shaky...

Although i wish it wasn't an FPS... and if it has to be an FPS i hope they find a way around it so it's not just shooting around, and a military story slapped in (like most shooters nowaday).

In that regard, i think the only shooter I liked in these late years has been bioshock... hmm.
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This plausible FPS must have a cool identity, ooze of personality. With their art guys (+ all their recent recruitments), they can do it. Don't want a generic western sci-fi/anticipated present/current days shooter.
 
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GameplayWhore

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IdeaMan said:
This plausible FPS must have a cool identity, ooze of personality. With their art guys (+ all their recent recruitments), they can do it. Don't want a generic western sci-fi/anticipated present/current days shooter.
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I'd go for a really inventive alternate history first person shooter. That way you can have some crazy background on the Roman Socialist Nation and why they're staging a secret invasion of the Iroquois Empire. Also the weapons are screaming skulls that explode on impact, why not…

The above is a terrible idea, but I hope you get the point of creativity over samsame
 
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DefectiveReject

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GameplayWhore said:
God is sad because He wants to know more about the Wii U but Yamauchi somehow has managed to block omniscience.
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God saw Retro's game and died a little... he then saw Mario Galaxy 3 and died and went to heaven.

But as he invented heaven as a means for others to get to him, he hadn't planned him needing entry and became stuck in an infinite loop call... this crashed the entire human race for a few moments just as Nintendo sent out the OK to post WiiU news. But as we all crashed, everyone missed the news and we have nothing.

The moral of this story? Its God's fault we have no WiiU news.
 
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Anth0ny

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IdeaMan said:
This plausible FPS must have a cool identity, ooze of personality. With their art guys (+ all their recent recruitments), they can do it. Don't want a generic western sci-fi/anticipated present/current days shooter.
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Bolded=Awesome, unique game. Won't sell.

Underlined=Same shit everyone else is doing. Sells more.

Can't have both.
 
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Dreamwriter

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Nekki said:
Just thinking about what retro has in store for us, gets me all shaky...

Although i wish it wasn't an FPS... and if it has to be an FPS i hope they find a way around it so it's not just shooting around, and a military story slapped in (like most shooters nowaday).

In that regard, i think the only shooter I liked in these late years has been bioshock... hmm.
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Every time someone says something like this, it makes me wonder where the heck all the hype around Retro came from. They release two great games (at least one of which had heavy handholding and revamping by Nintendo of Japan), help with a couple decent games, and work on a bunch of games of such low quality that they get canceled, and that suddenly makes them worth all this hype?

Especially wishing it wasn't a FPS, as a first-person shooting adventure was what made Retro famous in the first place.
 
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axisofweevils

Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
Dreamwriter said:
Every time someone says something like this, it makes me wonder where the heck all the hype around Retro came from. They release two great games (at least one of which had heavy handholding and revamping by Nintendo of Japan), help with a couple decent games, and work on a bunch of games of such low quality that they get canceled, and that suddenly makes them worth all this hype?

Especially wishing it wasn't a FPS, as a first-person shooting adventure was what made Retro famous in the first place.
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Same here.

Mario Kart 7 - which they helped with - had some terrible glitches.
 
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ViewtifulJC

Banned
Dreamwriter said:
Every time someone says something like this, it makes me wonder where the heck all the hype around Retro came from. They release two great games (at least one of which had heavy handholding and revamping by Nintendo of Japan), help with a couple decent games, and work on a bunch of games of such low quality that they get canceled, and that suddenly makes them worth all this hype?

Especially wishing it wasn't a FPS, as a first-person shooting adventure was what made Retro famous in the first place.
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Some people REALLY REALLY REALLY liked MP

I mean really REALLY really

DKCR is their best game, easily
 
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ozfunghi

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DefectiveReject said:
I'd like a FPS done differently.
maybe some puzzle elements thrown in and some upgrades and some flying monsters.

They could call it Metroid Prime 4... :)
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I have high hopes for RETRO's next project. Everything so far points towards it being a FPS, but i just know they are not going to make "just another FPS". It'll be different. It 'll have richer gameplay than your average FPS. An interesting hook on the genre. I'm very excited for it.
 
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GameplayWhore

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IceDoesntHelp said:
Eh, been avoiding this thread (its not you, its the thread!), miss anything?
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More discussion on the new Retro hire. IdeaMan tried to state his basic rundown of how the Wii U will look, performance-wise. People are confused as ever, and he's now asleep. General chatter on how the 3DS is doing in Europe and the Vita in America.
 
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axisofweevils

Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
Thread 3 is nearly closed.
There's some amazing video footage just posted there.
 
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HylianTom

Banned
ozfunghi said:
I have high hopes for RETRO's next project. Everything so far points towards it being a FPS, but i just know they are not going to make "just another FPS". It'll be different. It 'll have richer gameplay than your average FPS. An interesting hook on the genre. I'm very excited for it.
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Watch - they're going to make a console version of Professor Layton. And we're all going to eat it up!
 
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IceDoesntHelp

Banned
GameplayWhore said:
Go C-stick!

Anybody who likes the Z button should just walk away and never come back to the Internet
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I like

Everything about the GC controller, and I mean everything. So should I leave?

GameplayWhore said:
More discussion on the new Retro hire. IdeaMan tried to state his basic rundown of how the Wii U will look, performance-wise. People are confused as ever, and he's now asleep. General chatter on how the 3DS is doing in Europe and the Vita in America.
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May I have a quote/link please :)
 
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Nekki

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Dreamwriter said:
Every time someone says something like this, it makes me wonder where the heck all the hype around Retro came from. They release two great games (at least one of which had heavy handholding and revamping by Nintendo of Japan), help with a couple decent games, and work on a bunch of games of such low quality that they get canceled, and that suddenly makes them worth all this hype?

Especially wishing it wasn't a FPS, as a first-person shooting adventure was what made Retro famous in the first place.
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They aren't gods by any stretch of the imagination. But so far they have put out good games, and they're at an environment where they can do good things (with nintendo's help).

Plus I would like to believe they have enough experience by now for nintendo to let go a little bit and let them be more independant. Some hand holding is to be expected though.

Other than that, it's one of few big studios from nintendo that can output something "different". I guess what i mean by different is western... not too japanese.

I wonder what an RPG from them would be like. Their artists would shine there imo :eek:.
 
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IceDoesntHelp

Banned
DefectiveReject said:
Vice versa for me. The wavebird is still to be beaten to this day
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You're crazee
No...I am ):

GameplayWhore said:
Retro hiring "a guy who worked as an Environment Artist and Level Designer for 3D Realms (RAGE)"
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=36869363#post36869363

IdeaMan's stuff:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=36897443&postcount=1337
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=36899276&postcount=1398
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Thank you!!
 
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