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New Halo 4 Screenshots (Grunt new design revealed)
- Thread starter Plywood
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Wait, no Flood in Halo 4 is confirmed? The novels indicate that Flood is going to continue play a pivotal role in the universe.
Good to see Grunts and Elites (and hopefully Brutes as well) returning, a couple of levels with them is going to be good.
The flood will surely return in Halo 5 I'd wager.
Also the concept art seems to indicate that jackals will also be returning (or a short forerunner species with holographic circular shields....)
By they you mean Flood or Brutes?
I meant the flood but honestly I'd like both in H4. My favourite levels from an encounter design perspective in the first halo were the last couple where you would alternate between fighting the covenant, sentinels and the flood.
I'd ideally like the covenant and the flood to return in some capacity alongside the new faction. Variety can only be a good thing imo
Frank confirmed that we will not be fighting Flood. They are a pivotal part of Halo, so they atleast will be present.
I always hated the Flood, but Greg Bear's novels made them really interesting fiction-wise. But I still wonder how they can make an interesting adversary gameplay-wise.
Of course, Forerunners being fun to play against is a more immediate issue.
the flood? da fuck?
The Xtortionist
Member
There are 5 more Halos out there...
texture resolution is optimized for the rendering resolution in these renders you do notice the scaling, in game they will look fine.
much higher resolution textures wouldnt look any better at this resolution and would cause other problems like pop in, shimmering, and waste of resources in physical storage, memory, and processing power.
B_Rik_Schitthaus
Banned
6, the one at the end of H3 was a replacement for the one blown up in H1.
For me, fighting the flood was always a nice change of pace in Halo 1 and Halo 3. However, there were unfortunately two levels where a) you did nothing but fight them (and they get monotonous fairly quickly) and b) you fought wave after wave after wave of them. (These being the library and cortana)
The flood didn't work in the library or the covenant; but were fine as a change of pace in 343 guilty spark, keyes, the maw, the covenant and so on. They're also (in my opinion) much more interesting from a fiction perspective than the covenant ever was.
If the flood returned in Halo 4, and 343i completed the transition that started in Halo 3 where the gore/horror aspect of the flood was emphasized, I think they would be a great addition to the enemy sandbox imo (especially considering the fact that flood-infected-forerunner will open up whole new gameplay possibilities for them), let alone the story.
The Librarian
Banned
I thought we already finished the fight?
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Derp
B_Rik_Schitthaus
Banned
Halo 4: Starting shit
I'm pretty sure the replacement Halo got blown up, too, along the Ark at the end of Halo 3.
Yeah but they ded. They gon' died or Chef wouldn't have said it's finishd
7 Halos. The 1st one was blown up twice(original and replacement) so there are 6 left
B_Rik_Schitthaus
Banned
That leaves 6 active.
Blue Ninja
Member
Halo 4: Start Another Fight
Yup. Installation 01, 02, 03, 05, 06 and 07. But most have already been discovered by the time Halo 4 takes place, apparently.
Halsey is sent to Installation 03 after being detained in Glasslands. The ONI team in Primordium talks about Installation 07, and that they know what it's like. They presumably also know about the rest. I also seem to remember the ship the team is on being in orbit around an installation, but I'm not sure.
bobs...onGaf
Member
At least 7 more Halo games then I bet they start replacing all the rings you break to make the games go on infinitely.
Infinite games which all play and look the same, you Halo fanboys wouldnt know a milking if it hit you in the face.
Stalker's post is spot on, us Halo fans are really good at spotting the flaws in the franchise, but even we have to stop and laugh when the critism makes no sense "looks like Halo" has to be a compliment, not a critique right.
Personally im not sure I like the way the grunts look, and the new Elite armour is a bit weird, if the game plays well thats all that matters but it may be jarring at first getting used to the new looks.
I don't count that one because Elites cleansed it from all Flood. By "out there" I meant "undiscovered".
B_Rik_Schitthaus
Banned
Hope these changes are important to this trilogy, some interesting things.
SquiddyCracker
Banned
I don't get it, didn't the covenant get defeated?
And didn't Halo 3 end with like
And didn't Halo 3 end with like
the chief being stranded on some weird forerunner planet?
The Wise Old Man
Member
What's up with the covenants exposed arms? It makes them look like night managers at mcdonalds.
BrLvgThrChmstry
Banned
Hahaha, golden. This. This is why I love these threads. So what's the story here anyway? Master Chef still going solo bolo blowing up rings or is there any hints of something new interesting this time around?
Zeouterlimits
Member
Resources are thin. They can afford space travel, but not full sets of armour!
Blue Ninja
Member
Yep. The Covenant you fight at the start of Halo 4 are apparently a rogue faction.
And it ended with the ship he was on slowly drifting towards that weird planet. Halo 4 starts on that ship when those rogue Covenant are attacking it, and then moves to the interior of the Shield World.
The Librarian
Banned
I guess it's not accurate to describe them as Covenant but rather Elites. The Covenant has been dissolved, and the "Covenant" you see here is simply one faction that has cropped up from in the aftermath. Religious zealots, most likely.
BrLvgThrChmstry
Banned
Sorry, I don't much outside of Halo lore except for the past 3-4 games I've played involved destroying large rings in space. And no, I never cared the story/plot/lore/or anything of that nature regarding Halo. Just the awesome gameplay.
Zeouterlimits
Member
We've heard of both Grunt & Jackal underlings we'll be fighting too. That's pretty close to the normal range of enemies.
Dissolved? I thought they remained the same, only friendly now.
Is this explained in the books, or am I remembering something wrong from H3? Sorry but I haven't read all of them
Just kidding.
New, more powerful and dangerous enemy. That's all we know at the moment, if I'm not mistaken.
The Librarian
Banned
I know, but simply calling the group "The Covenant" implies that the organization, structure, and power is there when it's not. The Grunts and Jackals aren't their on their own but because of Elites, hence only using their name.
CadetMahoney
Member
anyone got that picture of 1st generation cortana compared to this one. lol.
B_Rik_Schitthaus
Banned
Yeah, it's almost like it a sequel or something.
Halo 1
Halo 2
Halo 3
Halo 4
The biggest change was from H1 > H2 and thereafter the design has been pretty consistent.
CadetMahoney
Member
spot on guvna Tip my hat to ya
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gaming_noob
Member
Did Bungie model Cortana off of Perrin Kaplan from Nintendo? Fugly. Halo 4's is awesome.
B_Rik_Schitthaus
Banned
In fiction she is based of a scientist, being sexy doesn't need to be a prerequisite to being in a story.
metareferential
Member
The new Cortana is damn cute.
Correct me if I'm wrong here, but the Covenant by Halo 3 was mostly all the Brutes, Prophets, some Jackals and Grunts. I can't remember if some of the Elites stayed loyal, but I'm thinking they didn't due to power struggle that happened between the Elites and Brutes. Anyways, a lot of Elites, some Grunts, Hunters, Jackals broke away and joined forces with the humans to stop the flood and the activation of the Halo rings. The Covenant itself was very much defeated, what fought them was just an alliance between the races that broke away and the humans.
The books have carefully crafted stories and origins for every species.if not refered as covies then better call each by name.
As far as covenants are concerned the religious zealots we ll fight in Halo 4 still believe in a great journey of sort, a destinity left to them by the forerunners, yet they don t want to get wiped in a glorious Halo flash.
Dax is right in saying it is the elite zealots who organise this group, so any species else is just following their orders for whatever reasons.
There will probably be a name given to this marticulat group.
I can t remember the name of the cult these elites follow.
And the remaining prophets have fled and are hiding. What could they be doing? They have great expertise and have many ungaroks with them
I hope those Elites and Grunts aren't both hangin out in the same place, without their sealed helmets. Don't Grunts breathe methane? And Elites oxygen? In the books I even remember there being methane filled areas where grunts could take off their masks and tanks and elites couldn't go without an EV suit.
Edit: from http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Unggoy
Edit: from http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Unggoy
shinobi602
Member
The Grunts are breathing methane, where do you see them not?