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Telltale's The Walking Dead - Story Discussion (UNMARKED SPOILERS)

Lonestar

I joined for Erin Brockovich discussion
Its impossible to save Shawn. His death was more to set the dynamics of the individuals in the group following the incident on Herschels farm.

Don't worry though, I will take care of Kat, she is a good woman, but I just won't let her see me kill her useless son and deranged husband.

But is it possible for Duck to die in Ep1.

Kid doesn't know what shit is. Manure either.
 

Setre

Member
As others have said the cannibalism thing was pretty evident early on but the tension leading up to the actual reveal was amazing. Also the thunder off in the background before the storm actually came was fucking awesome. I was like, “Is that thunder? Oh shit it is. Things are about to get real”.

I killed Larry without hesitation, because fuck that guy. I also killed the St. John brothers because, well, fuck those guys. Just wish I could have killed their mother myself but zombie Mark getting his revenge was good enough.

I also used the IT’S PEOPLE option and was horrified when Clem still ate it. I assumed the game was going to end there and restart but it kept going. Felt bad but as I’ve said, I got my revenge.
 

Con_Smith

Banned
Unfortunately no, you can't kill duck. I think I'll start an asshole run though where I talk shit, treat clem bad, and act as dumb as possible just to see how far bad decisions will really play out towards episode 5.

Anyone here play with the story hints on? I can't just because I would hate to try and fix every bad choice I make. My main play through I want to be as pure and unknowing as Lee when it comes to the npcs just so I can always be surprised by how they react to my decisions. kinda makes it interesting when I go from saving Duck and feeding him his father goes full blown ass hole on me for not backing him up for his "maybe murder". Or how Carly is the only one I can trust but only because she knows my secret and I'm kinda freaked she may turn on me later.
 

ElRenoRaven

Member
As others have said the cannibalism thing was pretty evident early on but the tension leading up to the actual reveal was amazing. Also the thunder off in the background before the storm actually came was fucking awesome. I was like, “Is that thunder? Oh shit it is. Things are about to get real”.

I also killed Larry without hesitation, because fuck that guy. I also killed the St. John brothers because, well, fuck those guys. Just wish I could have killed their mother myself but zombie Mark getting his revenge was good enough.

I also used the IT’S PEOPLE option and was horrified when Clem still ate it. I assumed the game was going to end there and restart but it kept going. Felt bad but as I’ve said, I got my revenge.

Yea. I have to say it was nice to see Larry get what was coming to him. I couldn't have been happier. I just straight up hate him with every fiber of my being. The 2nd episode here didn't do anything to change my opinion of him either before we smashed his face in. lol


Unfortunately no, you can't kill duck. I think I'll start an asshole run though where I talk shit, treat clem bad, and act as dumb as possible just to see how far bad decisions will really play out towards episode 5.

Anyone here play with the story hints on? I can't just because I would hate to try and fix every bad choice I make. My main play through I want to be as pure and unknowing as Lee when it comes to the npcs just so I can always be surprised by how they react to my decisions. kinda makes it interesting when I go from saving Duck and feeding him his father goes full blown ass hole on me for not backing him up for his "maybe murder". Or how Carly is the only one I can trust but only because she knows my secret and I'm kinda freaked she may turn on me later.

Yea I did that on one of my 3 saves. I have 2 that are the same other then who I saved. The 3rd though is just me being a total asshole. It's really interesting how the game plays differently between the two. I can't wait to get back home tomorrow night and play it some more.
 
Anyone here play with the story hints on? I can't just because I would hate to try and fix every bad choice I make.

Hell NO! How does anyone play with that on. I mean when my little sis is playing her file ( she's a non-gamer I can understand ) but for me, it totally erodes the atmosphere. Seeing some nonsense pop-up in the corner.

So-and-So will remember this. Blah. I play with no story updates on and I play with no floating circles.

I haven't even replayed the EPS. Everything I do on this first run is CANON, I'll replay when all five eps are out.
 

Setre

Member
Anyone here play with the story hints on?

I play with them on. This is actually my first point-and-click adventure game so I figured training wheels are good for the first playthrough. I don't go back and remake decisions though, first time through is my cannon run. I'll eventually replay each episode and roleplay each Lee differently.

Yea. I have to say it was nice to see Larry get what was coming to him. I couldn't have been happier. I just straight up hate him with every fiber of my being. The 2nd episode here didn't do anything to change my opinion of him either before we smashed his face in. lol

I was expecing them to try and make him somewhat sympathetic but NOPE. Will be hard not killing him every other time I play.

So uh... did anyone else get shot in the face during the sneaking through the barn? Haha. Peeked out once, it's cool... peeked out again to a shotgun pointed at my face and I gasped and dropped my controller and got shot in the face, hahaha. OOPS.

I ended up killing Larry, because I was too worried about a huge zombie in a contained room with Clem in there. :( I felt really bad after, though. I felt even worse after I killed the first brother, cause Clem had seen me kill two people really quickly... Sorry Clem. So I ended up sparing the second brother and not taking the food, to appease Clem.

Yeah, I got shotgunned in the face. Totally an "OH SHIT WHAT BUTTON DO I PRESS" moment. I also got killed two times with Momma St. John. Once was because I didn't know I was supposed to stop, the second was because I told her she didn't have the guts to shoot me and called her a bitch.

I didn't feel bad at all killing Danny. I hesitated on Andrew because of Clem and the rest but reasoned if I let him live he'd just keep doing this shit. And yeah I didn't steal from the car because of Clem. I didn't stop her from eating Mark, I killed three people in front of her, might as well not steal and hope she doesn’t think I’m completely psycho.
 

Leeness

Member
So uh... did anyone else get shot in the face during the sneaking through the barn? Haha. Peeked out once, it's cool... peeked out again to a shotgun pointed at my face and I gasped and dropped my controller and got shot in the face, hahaha. OOPS.

Anyway, knew Mark was done the second he went into the house. :( Either they were cannibals or they were going to torture him, or something, but I knew he was screwed. I liked him too and even gave him food. :<

I ended up killing Larry, because I was too worried about a huge zombie in a contained room with Clem in there. :( I felt really bad after, though. I felt even worse after I killed the first brother, cause Clem had seen me kill two people really quickly... Sorry Clem. So I ended up sparing the second brother and not taking the food, to appease Clem.
 

Pancho

Qurupancho
So uh... did anyone else get shot in the face during the sneaking through the barn? Haha. Peeked out once, it's cool... peeked out again to a shotgun pointed at my face and I gasped and dropped my controller and got shot in the face, hahaha. OOPS.

Anyway, knew Mark was done the second he went into the house. :( Either they were cannibals or they were going to torture him, or something, but I knew he was screwed. I liked him too and even gave him food. :<

I ended up killing Larry, because I was too worried about a huge zombie in a contained room with Clem in there. :( I felt really bad after, though. I felt even worse after I killed the first brother, cause Clem had seen me kill two people really quickly... Sorry Clem. So I ended up sparing the second brother and not taking the food, to appease Clem.


Lol yeah, the shotgun thing also took me off-guard

But yeah...kind of sucks they kill Mark off so quickly, the guy was pretty damn nice =(
 
I wonder what the statistics will be like for episode 2 by the time episode 3 comes around.

TellTale should do a universal stat display before each new episode is uploaded from the previous game on their website. I didn't kill Larry, the man was racist, a homophobe, a nasty, incendiary, confrontational personality that I avoided.

He left me for dead in episode 1, but I couldn't slam a salt lick on a man's face that might have had a chance of coming around. If you can't outright look someone in the eyes and kill them, or set them up to die and let them know you have set them up to die, you are a coward. Kenny is a coward. He took advantage of a situation. A coward that only thinks of Kat and Duck and not the group. I can't wait to kill him.
 

Jonboy

Member
The tension you feel when walking up the stairs is just amazing. Like others, I knew what was coming; however, that didn't keep my heart from literally pounding in my chest as I made my way up the stairs.

Luckily, I kept Clem from eating at all. And while we're on the topic of Clementine, I don't think I've ever felt such an urge to protect a character in a game before. I'm sure this is exactly what TellTale is going for. I was so enraged when they got her at the point when all heck breaks loose in the kitchen.

Can't wait for episode 3!

My choices ended up being

Ep1
go for help in the day
Lie to Herschel (though, I'm not sure how, I was attempting to be honest, must have been a wonky choice somewhere)
I was more or less honest with Clem about Lee's past
I gave the gun to the motel chick
I think I let on that Lee knew the owners of the drug store (maybe told someone it was Lee's parents store)
chose Carley over Doug
Same exact thing happened to me. In fact, it even popped up and said I told him the truth on one of his first questions. Then he asked something else and, like you, I thought I was telling the truth, but apparently not. Oh well. Hopefully it won't be too big of a factor in my endgame.
 
I got shot, too :p It took me by surprise. I didn't see the context marker the first time, either... I thought it was going to be a cutscene where he made me get up... NOPE.
 

Lonestar

I joined for Erin Brockovich discussion
anyone else like playing with the subtitles on? I love how everyone has their own colors for their dialogue.

Plus, Kenny had a couple of "fuuuuuuuuck's" in him :lol
 
I play all my games with subtitles. The subtitles are much improved from the first episode where some off them would appear very, v e r y s l o w l y . . .
 
anyone else like playing with the subtitles on? I love how everyone has their own colors for their dialogue.

Plus, Kenny had a couple of "fuuuuuuuuck's" in him :lol

Subtitles are crucial here, especially if you want to answer a question competently, based on your own feelings. With the the audio skips, frame skips, ambient noise, sometimes the voices can be misheard.
 
Bunch of typos in the subtitles tho.
Yeah :p Kind of odd seeing "&" used instead of "and" (and they were used in the same sentence, even) in a game where the writing is supposed to be above average. Also, I saw "defence" even though it's the US version.

Admittedly, that's part of the reason I enjoy subtitles, too. I like seeing all the mistakes.
 

Kalnos

Banned
Apparently I sided with everyone else on all of the choices except for what do with Larry (I killed him, the game defined it as 'pragmatism, I agree :p). It was a pretty gruesome death, though!

Also...I felt bad taking the food because of Clementine but how can you say no in that situation?
 

Jonboy

Member
Apparently I sided with everyone else on all of the choices except for what do with Larry (I killed him, the game defined it as 'pragmatism, I agree :p). It was a pretty gruesome death, though!

Also...I felt bad taking the food because of Clementine but how can you say no in that situation?
That's the one I wish I'd done differently. In real life I would have definitely said, "look, we have to take this, here's why..." But in the game I sided with Clementine and didn't take it.

Looking back...no one would let a child make a decision like that.
 
Apparently I sided with everyone else on all of the choices except for what do with Larry (I killed him, the game defined it as 'pragmatism, I agree :p). It was a pretty gruesome death, though!

Also...I felt bad taking the food because of Clementine but how can you say no in that situation?

They were all still starving, any sane person with a young child to look after would have taken the food. My only qualm was why did we have to take all? I wish we could only take half. Two boxes of food and one box of supplies could be rationed easily. I think that was a missed opportunity by TellTale there.

You could have placated Clem, by saying look we left food for who ever returns, but we had to take some now because we would starve.
 

Kalnos

Banned
They were all still starving, any sane person with a young child to look after would have taken the food. My only qualm was why did we have to take all? I wish would only take half. Two boxes of food and one box of supplies could be rationed easily. I think that was a missed opportunity by TellTale there.

You could have placated Clem, by saying look we left food for who ever returns, but we had to take some now because we would starve.

Bolded was exactly what I thought as well, they really just wanted the decision to be binary for whatever reason. It's possible it has a greater effect on Lilly than Clementine given she also got pretty upset about it (though I'm not sure if anything I do will ever change the effect of Lee/Kenny taking out Larry).
 
Bolded was exactly what I thought as well, they really just wanted the decision to be binary for whatever reason. It's possible it has a greater effect on Lilly than Clementine given she also got pretty upset about it (though I'm not sure if anything I do will ever change the effect of Lee/Kenny taking out Larry).

I was thinking of Clem, but I was also thinking about the people who "owned" the car. They seemed to have a child as well. How would you feel if you had to run into the wood for a piss break, only to return to find your station wagon completely looted. Looted of vital goods that you were taking back to your personal family.

We didn't have to be greedy. Two boxes of food and one box of supplies could have been stretched until a new solution arose.
 

SmithnCo

Member
I got shot by the shotgun too, I knew he'd probably be there when I opened it but I couldn't figure out where the cursor was in time.

Lol yeah, the shotgun thing also took me off-guard

But yeah...kind of sucks they kill Mark off so quickly, the guy was pretty damn nice =(

Yeah, I liked Mark from the two minutes you spend with him, lol.
 

Chatin

Member
Yeah, when the brothers stopped talking, and the game had forced me to give Kenny and update before peeking out the door, again, I knew one of them would be standing there. I didn't want to open the door.

When walking up to the house, I chose to pretend I was Danny, and Mama saw through my lies. I thought Kat was gonna be dead for sure at that point. How does that moment play any differently with the other responses? Do you still have to walk through the door and toward the steps?
 
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Deleted member 30609

Unconfirmed Member
Yeah, when the brothers stopped talking, and the game had forced me to give Kenny and update before peeking out the door, again, I knew one of them would be standing there. I didn't want to open the door.

When walking up to the house, I chose to pretend I was Danny, and Mama saw through my lies. I thought Kat was gonna be dead for sure at that point. How does that moment play any differently with the other responses? Do you still have to walk through the door and toward the steps?

identically, more or less
 

SmithnCo

Member
I just remembered, the moment when I realized what they were doing was pretty freaky. It was around the time after one of the brothers shoots the 'crazy lady,' back at the farm he becomes very creepy and says you'll love dinner.

The dinner scene itself was tense too, I didn't yell out immediately because I thought I could play it off and try to catch them off guard. Obviously that didn't happen, lol.

This series has done an excellent job with creating tension.
 

SmithnCo

Member
Has anybody tried the "..." options yet?
I'm curious about how the story pans out if you choose to say nothing.

I did quite a few times, (a couple at the dinner scene). Lilly's dad called me a thumb sucker for that in the freezer. I did it when the guy discovered me at the barn and he said I was weird.

I would be interested to see what happens if you consistently choose to say nothing though. I imagine it wouldn't turn out too well.
 
Has anybody tried the "..." options yet?
I'm curious about how the story pans out if you choose to say nothing.

Yea I used it right at the end when you're walking to the car and Kenny asks his wife to leave so that he can talk to Lee for a moment. When he says there's going to be fallout, all 3 of the dialog options I got are accusatory against him, and the 4th one is the ... which basically translates into a tense silence. Kenny picks it up and goes on a rant about how he's being made out into a monster for doing the things that need to be done.
 

SmithnCo

Member
Yea I used it right at the end when you're walking to the car and Kenny asks his wife to leave so that he can talk to Lee for a moment. When he says there's going to be fallout, all 3 of the dialog options I got are accusatory against him, and the 4th one is the ... which basically translates into a tense silence. Kenny picks it up and goes on a rant about how he's being made out into a monster for doing the things that need to be done.

I did that as well. I didn't really want to get that mad at him, but all of the options were pretty negative. Kinda weird.
 
I did that as well. I didn't really want to get that mad at him, but all of the options were pretty negative. Kinda weird.

The only reason I did it is because I'm having technical issues with my game so I tried replaying the last autosave multiple times and chose all the various options to see what happens. My actual response the first time was that he destroyed the group with his stupidity, which he has. Frankly I'm really surprised that Lily hasn't shot him with the hunting rifle she picked up. Guess she's not a murderer like he is.
 

Cohsae

Member
Walking through the screen door to confront the mother was one of the most amazing moments I've ever seen in a video game. When the lightning flashes and you see zombie Mark's hands reaching over the bannister...
Wow
 

Symphonic

Member
I did quite a few times, (a couple at the dinner scene). Lilly's dad called me a thumb sucker for that in the freezer. I did it when the guy discovered me at the barn and he said I was weird.

I would be interested to see what happens if you consistently choose to say nothing though. I imagine it wouldn't turn out too well.

Think I'm gonna do a playthrough like this right now.
 

LifEndz

Member
Killed both of the St. John's brothers because fuck those guys.

Stole the food because I figured the owner probably got killed or worse if the car was left like that.

Larry....I didn't really want to kill him just because I figured Lilly would be a handful if Kenny and I murdered her father (which she was as evidenced by her not helping when Andy was about to kill me), but like the rest of you I killed him because I couldn't risk him turning in a confined room with Clem in there.

And yeah, I can't believe how much I care about Clem. I can't imagine being a dick to her on my next playthrough. In fact, when I got the four pieces of food and had to choose I knew right away that one was going to Clem.
 

iammeiam

Member
Where did Mark come from? I don't remember him being in episode 1. Did I miss something?

At some point between episodes, they headed off to a military base (one Lily probably knew about) and raided the commissary for food. Mark was holed up there; in exchange for the food he had, they let him join the group. All happened off camera, just referenced briefly in dialogue.

Really liked episode two; Kenny turned into an asshole but he always kind of was--The way he couldn't bring himself to even try to help Shawn in chapter one was probably meant to foreshadow this.
 

NZNova

Member
I seem to be going straight down the middle of the line with the whole Lilly/Kenny thing. I guess Kenny seems slightly less pissed at me than Lilly does... she's still salty about the whole dad thing...

I couldn't steal the food. I killed the first brother and felt really bad about how upset Clem was by it. Damn, girl, why you gotta look at me with that disappointment in your eyes.
 
I seem to be going straight down the middle of the line with the whole Lilly/Kenny thing. I guess Kenny seems slightly less pissed at me than Lilly does... she's still salty about the whole dad thing...

I couldn't steal the food. I killed the first brother and felt really bad about how upset Clem was by it. Damn, girl, why you gotta look at me with that disappointment in your eyes.

I didn't feel bad for killing the first brother. I didn't think for one second that if I let him live he would just sit there and let us go. There was no need to kill the second brother with the zombies just a few feet away.
 

FGMPR

Banned
Episode 2 was awesome and by far the best thing Telltale has produced. I ended up killing everyone possible except for Larry. Even though I hated him and was happy to see a cinder block dropped on his fat head, I couldn't do that to his daughter. Obviously Kenny is a bigger cunt than my Lee is, though.

The rest of them deserved to die. They don't get to slowly kill Mark and feed him to us without serious retribution, in fact, I wanted to be able to kill them in a slower, more painful way as I felt their deaths were too swift for what they had going on.

I also took the food without thought, and like some of the posters above, wish their was a way to leave some for the probable returning family. I know Clem didn't like it, but I'm sure she doesn't like starving to death, either.

and finally... RIP cow.
 
First two tracked decisions are pretty much no brainers. Didn't realize not cutting off the leg was something you could decide to do, and it was pretty clear those brothers were shady, so why kill someone trying to tell me something about them.

Didn't help kill Larry. Whats the worst that could happen if he turned? We drop a salt lick on a zombie's head instead of a humans. I figured we'd smash something with one of those, didn't think it'd be Larry's skull, though.

Also, who knows how long it takes a walker to turn? I guess at this point Kenny figures it happens right away, since that's what happened with the coach guy. Not a bad conclusion to jump to, but when it's the life of someone who is right in front of you's father, maybe exercise some caution?

Only one I was torn on was the food at the end. I mean it's the apocalypse, looting is totally ok, but at the same time that car looked pretty recently used and there was no sign of nearby struggle at least.

If I weren't bound by the limitations of an A or B choice, I'd have taken some food, maybe leaving a note or something. There couldn't have been more than 3 or 4 people crammed into that car, and that was a lot of food... But eh, they stole it regardless of my choice, so seemingly the only consequence is Kenny thinks I'm a pussy.

This episode was like a total reversal for me. In episode one I felt Larry was acting like an irrational moron, and defended Kenny a lot. Then in this episode just about everything Larry complained about was relatively sane, and Kenny kept expecting me to go along with stupid shit.

Oh, and I killed both the brothers. Why the fuck not?
 

megalowho

Member
Liked the few brief moments of comic relief in episode 2, game shouldn't be a laugh riot but what's been in there has been handled well.

Lee: Did you lick the salt lick?
Clem: ...I don't know
 

Sadist

Member
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And the part with Clem and the saltlick was pretty funny. One thing that bothered me (which I mentioned in the other thread) is the timejump and Larry being around. I actually pictured him dying from getting to worked up about everything. Or being reckless during a zombie raid. Still, he didn't deserve to die like that. Had a feeling Kenny would go ballistic after Lee wasn't able to resuscitate him, but not during the hart massage. Dumbass. Guess we're not bff's anymore. And I gave enough food to his dimwitted kid.

Can't wait for the next ep.
 

Barryman

Member
I made those exact choices as well. The choices from this episode didn't seem as tough or as consequential as those from the last episode.
 

RPGCrazied

Member
This episode got me good. I had no idea these farmers were cannibals. I should've killed both brothers, but just the first one.

That freaked me out when going down the stairs and hearing that moan coming from inside that secret room.
 

SmithnCo

Member
Had a feeling Kenny would go ballistic after Lee wasn't able to resuscitate him, but not during the hart massage. Dumbass. Guess we're not bff's anymore. And I gave enough food to his dimwitted kid.

Yeah. I understand what he did, but he should've waited longer. Kenny has been slowly pissing me off, and I think I'm pretty much 100% with Lilly at this point.

What happens to Mark is really fucked up. I knew there would be a grisly scene when I went in the secret room, but it was still surprising.
 

Trigger

Member
I didn't realize that Larry's mouth moved during the salt lick scene until I read the other thread. It really just makes Kenny look like a dick in hindsight.
 
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