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[The_eJoker]

Just woke up and saw this on TV. That's terrible, stuff of nightmares, indeed.

 

[Violater]

Media in San Diego trying to get names of family members is just sickening.

 

[Plasmid]

''ABC's Brian Ross raised eyebrows on Friday when he suggested there may have been a link between the alleged shooter in the Colorado theater tragedy and the Tea Party.''
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/20/brian-ross-tea-party-colorado-shooting_n_1689471.html

Quick question, what's this ''Tea Party''?

A more right wing political party that stems away from big government

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

''ABC's Brian Ross raised eyebrows on Friday when he suggested there may have been a link between the alleged shooter in the Colorado theater tragedy and the Tea Party.''
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/07/20/brian-ross-tea-party-colorado-shooting_n_1689471.html

Quick question, what's this ''Tea Party''?

Political movement.

 

[Seraphinianus]

I think the discussion of "is bringing a 6 year old to a midnight showing" is perfectly reasonable, but it doesn't belong in this thread.

i.e. it's fucking stupid

 

[MasterShotgun]

I woke up and heard Obama on the TV making speech. I knew right away that either something serious happened or my mom had fell asleep on asleep on the couch.

My thoughts go out to those affected by this event.

 

[Cmagus]

Metal detectors wouldn't have stopped this. He came in through an emergency exit in the back of the theatre.

Even so they should have security or something watching stuff like this. Anyways such a sad story hope he gets what is coming to him.

 

[Uchip]

wow.

not just the incident, which i'm processing on my own, but the way most of you seem to be using it as an excuse to jump down each other's throats, bickering over every little piece of ground surrounding the incident. fuck the internet...not a very good place for discussion or processing of events.

seriously
at least they are now harassing me via PM rather than here now

 

[ChiTownBuffalo]

This isnt like a presser at all this is ridiculous. It's a police lady basically just called there because of reporters congregated.

Holy shit, I thought it was a goof because I thought it was Sarah Palin

 

[giga]

Car was parked in the back.

 

[giggas]

So, with all of this discussion about the parenting capabilities of people who brought children to the theater, I'm just really curious on something about this discussion.

What exactly is the point in this line of discussion? Are people just bringing up dubious parenting choices just for the sake of identifying up dubious parenting choices, or are they insinuating that the parents have some fault and role in the injuries and deaths of children due to the acts of a gunman (which no person could have reasonably expected)?

The reason people bring it up is because no one wants to see kids get hurt, and it's easy to say "Well they shouldn't have been there, and if they weren't there, they wouldn't have gotten hurt."

I love the amount of people telling others to shut up because they feel that way. When I read the story this morning and the second paragraph was about a 3 month old being injured, it was EXACTLY my thought. "Why was the baby there?" I have twin girls about to turn 2, I wouldn't bring them to Batman now and I wouldn't bring them to Batman then, especially at midnight. The six year old also falls in line. Me personally, I wouldn't let any of my daughters watch the Nolan Batman films until they're a bit older. I don't care if it's Batman or that they're PG-13, I know the content in them and that's that. However, to each his own regarding that.

That said, no one is taking away anything from the situation with that line of thinking. I couldn't imagine losing one of my daughters, especially during what should have been a really fun night. I can't imagine how those parents feel, they're probably completely besides themselves and I feel awful for them.

So yes I feel just as terrible for them as anyone else that was at, harmed, or killed this morning. At the same time, I'm allowed to feel that way about the kids that were there and not have to be called an asshole for feeling that way.

 

[truly101]

I need to stop watching the news before we get to the inevitable NRA nut that says "If everyone was armed, he wouldn't have been able to kill so many."

This line of thinking drives me batshit insane and you heard so much of it after the VT shooting. I'm not necessarily anti gun, but people need to understand the difference between warding off a burglar or car jacker than being engaged in a firefight with a heavily armed lunatic who doesn't care if he dies. Your average conceal and carry doesn't train for this type of engagement and you'd have a shitload of collateral damage and casualties.

 

[R2D4]

Ultimately, this incident is just the product of living in a sick society with lax gun laws. It’s not the first and it definitely won’t be the last. The way your media covers such events only inspires more people to commit such crimes.

Yep. More laws. They fix everything. There should be a law against crazy people. Then we'd all be safe.

 

[FStop7]

Listen, people keep talking about Colorado's Death Penalty.

Colorado has executed 1 person since 1977.

I just don't see that this guy gets a quick execution.

Death is too good for him.

 

[lazybones18]

Was I not the only one somehow put off by the speaker's verbal behavior/demeanor? I'm sure there's a better word I'm looking for.

 

[maquiladora]

Pentagon saying US service members among casualties.

 

[Moral Panic]

I'm clearly not the only person bewildered by this. Asking for bans is already a pretty lame thing to do, but over a simple discussion? Super lame. PEACE.

The discussion was clearly inappropriate. After a tragedy it's not in good form to start blaming victims for small mistakes. Imagine this was a rape would you be going "Why is a drunk woman out on her own at midnight" etc. You don't, It's wrong.

 

[Flunkie]

Is it possible that his car was parked outside, he started out in the theater, was actually the person who got the phone call, went outside and propped open the door, put his stuff on, and came back in?

And holy shit, apartment booby trapped with "sophisticated" explosives.

 

[ChiTownBuffalo]

James Holmes, was a PhD candidate in neuroscience.

Moved to Colorado to pursue PhD, dropped out in May.

 

[Gaborn]

We like to think that in the United States we are safe from attacks like these, but the truth is, if someone wants to kill a bunch of people and they're intelligent enough to come up with a workable plan, they'll probably be able to succeed. The reason we don't have daily suicide bombings or other kinds of frequent incidents you're always hearing about in the Middle East is because our society is relatively stable and people are happier over here, or at least less of them find reasons to carry out such acts. But it's not like we have magic force fields everywhere preventing anyone from doing anything.

Yep, definitely. Also, most people don't realize that violent crimes in the US in pretty much every category have been on the decline since the 70s. We're not "safe" but we're less likely than ever to have this kind of thing happen to us.

 

[Mr. Enigma]

FIVE buildings around the apartment complex have also been completely evacuated. He's got some incredibly desctructive shit rigged up in his apartment.

 

[MThanded]

James Holmes, was a PhD candidate in neuroscience.

Moved to Colorado to pursue PhD, dropped out in May.

So he was not in med school then.

 

[bjb]

I don't mean to sound callous in a way (this is a horrible tragedy). Enough people have suffered already. Yet I was thinking that with the amount of weapons this piece of shit had - in a dark room with few exits, or an entire theater full of people - how were more people not murdered?

Maybe it's the size of the specific theater (I don't visit many), but man it seems this -could- have been so much worse.

 

[JLG-]

Reuters: Pentagon says US service members apparently among casualties in Colorado shooting at "Batman" movie

 

[NathanMcMahon]

Ultimately, this incident is just the product of living in a sick society with lax gun laws. It’s not the first and it definitely won’t be the last. The way your media covers such events only inspires more people to commit such crimes.

you should bring the gun talk to another thread, this in't the place for it.

 

[Pimpwerx]

First of all it wouldn't have helped (he came in through the exit), second of all I really don't need the TSA at every damn public place in America.

Amen to that. The TSA has made flying a miserable experience. I don't want some high school kid wanding me. It's also a bitch going to sporting events and getting "patted down" by people who don't know what they're doing and wouldn't catch something really trying to sneak something in. PEACE.

 

[derder]

It's events like this that should wake up America to start looking into gun laws...

Sad how these events will continue to happen because it's so easy to get hold of firearms...

I was thinking the same thing, but the crazies that plan this out with bulletproof vests and tear gas are going to be able to get a hold of guns.

 

[CaptainABAB]

Need to start putting metal detectors in places like this. Sounds like the guy was probably just disgruntled hope he gets the death penalty.

Why not put a metal detector everywhere people congregate? Restaurants, beaches, parks, churches, city sidewalks, etc.

Besides, what would stop someone shooting up everyone waiting in the line to get through the metal detectors?


We need to stop over-reacting to singular random events with this "security at all costs" mindset that end up causing more harm than good.

 

[Mr. Enigma]

Reuters: Pentagon says US service members apparently among casualties in Colorado shooting at "Batman" movie

Oh boy...

 

[maquiladora]

FIVE buildings around the apartment complex have also been completely evacuated. He's got some incredibly desctructive shit rigged up in his apartment.

They said it could take hours or even days to make safe.

 

[ElectricBlue187]

Ultimately, this incident is just the product of living in a sick society with no funding or community support for social systems to catch the violently mental disturbed before they commit crimes. It’s not the first and it definitely won’t be the last. The way your media covers such events only inspires more people to commit such crimes.

fixed

 

[DrForester]

Pentagon saying US service members among casualties.

Sadly not surprising. It's very close to Buckley Air Force Base, probably the closest theater to it.

 

[The Elite]

James Holmes, was a PhD candidate in neuroscience.

Moved to Colorado to pursue PhD, dropped out in May.

WTF happened?

 

[Cmagus]

Guy on CNN is talking about some of the guns he had. Sounds heavy duty, AK's, Shotguns and such.

 

[Plasmid]

Reuters: Pentagon says US service members apparently among casualties in Colorado shooting at "Batman" movie

Oh. Shit.

 

[ericexpo]

Metal detectors wouldn't have stopped this. He came in through an emergency exit in the back of the theatre.

correct but certain security doors can be tied into alarm system so they don't open until the fire alarm is pulled. It's not new technology, most of the time a fire alarm would be placed next to door, pull and then you can exit. doors really should be locked, until end of the showing.
None of this matters because he prob would have been waiting some where else or just figured out another way of killing people. There really no way to stop someone that determined to kill people

 

[Daydream Sequence]

Death is too good for him.

Solitary for life is too good for him. Drop his ass into the general population at any Colorado maximum security prison. He won't last long.

 

[Gaborn]

I don't mean to sound callous in a way (this is a horrible tragedy). Enough people have suffered already. Yet I was thinking that with the amount of weapons this piece of shit had - in a dark room with few exits, or an entire theater full of people - how were more people not murdered?

Maybe it's the size of the specific theater (I don't visit many), but man it seems this -could- have been so much worse.

I think to me that indicates a LACK of military training. Gotta think someone who actively practiced it would be much more efficient at murder given the huge element of surprise and the relatively packed theater.

 

[JumpingTheGun]

Gamefaqs Mod was present at the theater at the timing of the shooting

It's a Current Events topic, so you can't see it unless you're a member with enough karma

Not sure if it's okay to post, but here's the mods experience via the GameFaqs board:

The email I have just received is so god damn absurd that this must be shared, so it's story time. Every word of this is the most absolute truth.

I live in Aurora, Colorado. Being a GameFAQs moderator who is bound to see a ton of TDKR spoilers, I decided to see it as quickly as possible to avoid having it spoiled for me. Thus, I went to the midnight showing at the Century 16 that's two blocks from my apartment.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z277/raptorlc/Nine.jpg

You may have heard about what happened here.

Long story short, I somehow got out without a scratch. I've got a skinned knee from hitting the floor, and eventually low crawling the hell out of there when the shooting stopped. The guy two seats to the right of me was shot in the head, and probably died instantly.

I gave my written and spoken statements to the police and got to go home at about 3AM after a hell of a lot of confusion. I've been watching the news ever since.

About an hour ago, I got an email received notification, and just looked at it in shock when I saw the title. It was an automated email message.

From: Fandango
Title: How did you like The Dark Knight Rises?

Fandango sent automated messages asking people how they liked the movie they were watching when some psychopath shot the place up. I wish I was making any of this up, but this is the deity of your choice's honest truth here. Boggles the f***ing mind.

I need a vacation.

 

[TacticalFox88]

Reuters: Pentagon says US service members apparently among casualties in Colorado shooting at "Batman" movie

Well, guy is pretty much fucked, even harder now. Holy shit.

 

[TS-08]

This line of thinking drives me batshit insane and you heard so much of it after the VT shooting. I'm not necessarily anti gun, but people need to understand the difference between warding off a burglar or car jacker than being engaged in a firefight with a heavily armed lunatic who doesn't care if he dies. Your average conceal and carry doesn't train for this type of engagement and you'd have a shitload of collateral damage and casualties.

Especially since in this situation, there was tear gas and mass panic in a crowded movie theater. This shooting was just too sudden and premeditated for some random moviegoers with guns to make a difference.

 

[freenudemacusers]

Pentagon saying US service members among casualties.

There is an air force base in Colorado (maybe another branch too I don't know). I have probably met someone who knows a victim or is one. :/

 

[Kinyou]

I was thinking the same thing, but the crazies that plan this out with bulletproof vests and tear gas are going to be able to get a hold of guns.

Well you could always hope that they get caught by the FBI. When they buy the stuff legally they can't get caught.

 

[Measley]

James Holmes, was a PhD candidate in neuroscience.

Moved to Colorado to pursue PhD, dropped out in May.

Makes you wonder what happened to make him snap.

I mean you go from pursuing a doctorate in NEUROSCIENCE to throwing your life away. Also seems like he came from an upper-middle class family in San Diego.

I guess we'll find out soon enough.

BTW, anyone who thinks this guy could have been stopped by some lady with a hand gun in her purse is living in a fantasy land.

 

[DemonNite]

just catching up and noticed we got a name now. Has his face been shown yet?

 

[Violater]

Is there a reliable live feed link?
Local news getting hammered NVM working now

 

[Emerson]

I don't mean to sound callous in a way (this is a horrible tragedy). Enough people have suffered already. Yet I was thinking that with the amount of weapons this piece of shit had - in a dark room with few exits, or an entire theater full of people - how were more people not murdered?

Maybe it's the size of the specific theater (I don't visit many), but man it seems this -could- have been so much worse.

Apparently a ton of police were there within seconds or something crazy. The gunman didn't have a lot of time, based on the reports I read.

 

[JeTmAn81]

I don't mean to sound callous in a way (this is a horrible tragedy). Enough people have suffered already. Yet I was thinking that with the amount of weapons this piece of shit had - in a dark room with few exits, or an entire theater full of people - how were more people not murdered?

Maybe it's the size of the specific theater (I don't visit many), but man it seems this -could- have been so much worse.

It depends on the size of the theater, but I would guess there were at least a couple of hundred people there, so most of them escaped physically unharmed (aside from tear gas effects). But I doubt anyone left that place without psychological damage.

 

[tycoonheart]

Holy shit, the pool of blood there.

 

[TheNatural]

Not sure if it's okay to post, but here's the mods experience via the GameFaqs board:

The email I have just received is so god damn absurd that this must be shared, so it's story time. Every word of this is the most absolute truth.

I live in Aurora, Colorado. Being a GameFAQs moderator who is bound to see a ton of TDKR spoilers, I decided to see it as quickly as possible to avoid having it spoiled for me. Thus, I went to the midnight showing at the Century 16 that's two blocks from my apartment.

http://i188.photobucket.com/albums/z277/raptorlc/Nine.jpg

You may have heard about what happened here.

Long story short, I somehow got out without a scratch. I've got a skinned knee from hitting the floor, and eventually low crawling the hell out of there when the shooting stopped. The guy two seats to the right of me was shot in the head, and probably died instantly.

I gave my written and spoken statements to the police and got to go home at about 3AM after a hell of a lot of confusion. I've been watching the news ever since.

About an hour ago, I got an email received notification, and just looked at it in shock when I saw the title. It was an automated email message.

From: Fandango
Title: How did you like The Dark Knight Rises?

Fandango sent automated messages asking people how they liked the movie they were watching when some psychopath shot the place up. I wish I was making any of this up, but this is the deity of your choice's honest truth here. Boggles the f***ing mind.

I need a vacation.

Jesus