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Press Reset: The Story of Polygon - financed by Microsoft for $750,000
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firehawk12
Subete no aware
lol
Also, is Arthur the new Jim Sterling? Maybe we're all falling into his trap!
Also, is Arthur the new Jim Sterling? Maybe we're all falling into his trap!
SatelliteOfLove
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Every time we post, we give them power.
He's still the Anti-Vinny, foretold of in the Book of Revelations.
He's still the Anti-Vinny, foretold of in the Book of Revelations.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
I just wonder if we're all being played and trolled into keeping this thread alive for so long. lol
(Polygon is the creepshots of games journalism?)
(Polygon is the creepshots of games journalism?)
Wuthering_Heights
Banned
Nah, Jim Sterling, for all his trolliness, still has talent.
Arthur is nowhere near as bad as Jim Sterling.
Arthur may be a dick, but at least he doesn't make a complete mockery of his chosen profession and at least attempts to take it seriously.
Good sweet jesus, I feel dirty after listening to that. Saw it while skimming the thread this morning and thought to myself "Gee, a group of fellows who think Gies is a hack like I do, I would love to hear what they have to say!" and happily loaded it onto my ipod. After listening to the two segments in which they talk about Gies, I almost want to defend the guy. Not because I feel they were too harsh, but because there's something so... slimy and creepy about two guys sitting there and bitching about a man they hate so passionately. It was like listening to two nerds talk about how the douchey jock that's never talked to them and likely doesn't know they exist is such an asshole and fuck him. Sure, that jock's still a douche, but... jesus you sad fucks, ignore him and go do something else.
I need to stop bitching about Gies on NeoGAF lest I become one of you.
It's unabashedly brutal I think just for the sake of being brutal.
John Rabbit
Banned
it would have helped if either of them were charming, articulate, well-spoken, or interesting; you know, things you'd ideally want to be if you're going to host a podcast. instead it's like the audio-version of a cheese sandwich.
Do these guys even know him? from what I can tell, it's a PS Vita fansite more than anything.
Wuthering_Heights
Banned
I thought the part about Gies wanting to have sexual relations with a 360 console was pretty spot on.
I just started listening though, so we'll see how it goes!
Edit: The Giant Bomb / NeoGAF talk is pretty accurate and funny too. This isn't half bad. Might have to add this to my rotation.
I'm not looking for seriousness in a games site or podcast. Just some thoughtfulness and intelligence. I don't get that from the guys at GB.
If I wanted to hear "just some dudes" talking about games, I'd just talk to my friends. I expect professionals to digest and process some of this stuff before regurgitating it onto their readers and listeners. I get that their "rawness" is what appeals to people, but for me it just strikes me as amateurish and indulgent. It's like listening to mediocre musicians sit around and "jam" for two straight hours. Anyone who can play an instrument can do that.
I prefer talent and thoughtfulness. Humor is just fine. I don't crave seriousness. They are games, after all.
billy beane
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Go easy on those guys. They have a Vita fansite. Shit must be brutal for them right now.
PepsimanVsJoe
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I don't see what's so bad about that.
Well...aside from it being an inanimate object of course.
Ya, but it totally can. www.theverge.com/gaming
Same editorial team and content, the "real" website just isn't finished. But it's not like all these people are sitting around getting paid to do nothing. The Polygon team is still publishing content to the web.
Pingoreous
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I don't agree with some of Arthur opinions while Listening to REBEL FM, But one thing Arthur always does is explain his opinions. You can press him on something and he will give you details on how he reach them. Cant say the same from most game writers.
RedNumberFive
Banned
But I was told their work would be new, different, and revolutionary. I'm certainly not seeing that there.
I don't think it's the work that was ever meant to be revolutionary, it's the website layout and design. That's the feeling I got from watching the "documentary".
At the end of the day it's still just another video game journalism site. It's not like they invented a new language to communicate in, they still just have their writing skills, industry veteran status, and the English language to go off.
RedNumberFive
Banned
So it's Kotaku with a hype video.
Well, I think Polygon's final design layout will be substantially better than that Gawker shit, but ya, pretty much.
Won't it just be the verge?
No, if you watch the documentary it's clear that the actual Polygon website will be completely different. Or at least that's the image that they're trying to portray in the video, we'll just have to wait for the full launch.
The Verge is just a holdover for the journalists to get some work done before the official launch of Polygon, as far as I can tell. This is merely my impression from watching every episode of the Press Start videos.
The actual Editor-In-Chief of The Verge seems very odd. I don't know anything about him and I don't dislike him from what I've watched of that Jay Leno/David Letterman rip-off talk show they have going. He just seems weird, I'd like to know his background.
Wiki'd him: Apparently before The Verge he was the Editor of Engadget, and a DJ dating back to the late 90s. Not bad, still has a weird, off-putting personality, though.
idlethreats
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Huh. I just watched all eight episodes back to back and I'm a bit surprised. I've been put off from Polygon from the very start - too much hype, too much egotistical bloviating from writers that I never much cared for in the first place (Crecente's at the top of that list) - so I was expecting to hate the documentary too. After watching it, my overwhelming take away from the whole thing isn't "circle-jerk" disgust, just...boredom. I found the whole thing to be incredibly dull. If building a new website is actually an interesting affair, this documentary has done a piss poor job of highlighting content and behind the scenes info that would be insightful.
In the end, the videos themselves haven't changed my mind about Polygon or aroused any anticipation for their impending launch, though the defensive reactions from their writers on Twitter (and the 3/4 of a million that they took from Microsoft to do this) has certainly cemented my initial negative opinion of the site.
In the end, the videos themselves haven't changed my mind about Polygon or aroused any anticipation for their impending launch, though the defensive reactions from their writers on Twitter (and the 3/4 of a million that they took from Microsoft to do this) has certainly cemented my initial negative opinion of the site.
Exactly this, I took much the same away from it.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
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firehawk12
Subete no aware
I could see a secret alliance between the two to try to divide up the internet into two camps of hatred. lol
That said, Sterling needs to make a documentary to get a 100 page Destructoid thread on GAF!
IC_Champion
Member
Spot on.
Most recent episode seems to be the most straightforward, always nice to see some features discussion on a website about games. Russ Pitts always struck me as kind of a weird guy, especially reading some of his stuff on the Escapist but anyway it doesn't seem like anyone said anything controversial this episode, which is a nice change of pace. Chris Plante and Chris Grant seem cool
billy beane
Banned
He's a little odd, but I really enjoy his work on the website and The Vergecast.
Ya, it's not too bad.
She would make such errors when she did writing for Dual Shockers, as well.
Yeah I just started listening to it and he's a good mixture of a decent knowledge of the tech industry and humor. And he doesn't seem to take himself too seriously.
Missing the point, eh?
Games are art. So... since art should be taken seriously, so should games. I was referring to a remark that said we shouldn't take games seriously, and I disagreed.
No, absolutely not. Not at all.
Just because it can be taken seriously doesn't mean you need to take it seriously 24/7
I mean, art's pretty serious... but fanart is also art, and do you take all instances of that seriously?
spectrum of seriousity, I suppose
Is art your favorite form of art?
Oh, I agree. I just see no reason why people would criticize a site simply because it took video games seriously.
When I was a musician, I took music seriously, but there was quite a bit of levity in there as well. Polygon's doing the same thing.
I also have to wonder how much of their editorial energy is going into launching the new site rather than keeping up with the current Verge-based one. Especially this close to launch. Again, not an excuse, but just an explanation.
Perhaps they do, in fact, have some genuinely new (content-oriented) ideas in store for launch?
Perhaps they do, in fact, have some genuinely new (content-oriented) ideas in store for launch?
Some quotes from that podcast, linked earlier in the thread:
"I'm openly cheering for Polygon to fail"
"I actively hate Arthur Gies"
"The guy is a complete maniac"
What the fuck is wrong with people? Openly cheering for something to fail? These guys have families, this is their job. Jesus.
Then again, they also reduce Giant Bomb to "Fat guys playing Games".
"I'm openly cheering for Polygon to fail"
"I actively hate Arthur Gies"
"The guy is a complete maniac"
What the fuck is wrong with people? Openly cheering for something to fail? These guys have families, this is their job. Jesus.
Then again, they also reduce Giant Bomb to "Fat guys playing Games".
John Rabbit
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i'm typically against this kind of mean-spirited reduction-ism, but it's not like they're way off-base. overweight men sweating while playing videogames (or you know, sitting idly in a chair) does feature somewhat prominently in their content.
But what does their size have to do with their knowledge of the medium?
To be honest, given the way the internet is, I have to applaud their courage for going online being of a larger size, and getting on camera. They've got some stones.
Not sure I'd even agree, I mean, the quick looks are them in audio form (unless it's Kinect, in which case they're showing you how the game works/reacts).
Between Gies' heroic hours editing game reviews and Ryan Davis' courageous on camera appearance, it's a wonder no games journalist has received a Presidential Medal of Freedom.
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