ii Stryker
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There's some good info there. EatChildren you've done a better job of explaining Miiverse than Nintendo. It actually sounds pretty cool.
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Wii U's Miiverse - A Guide for Dummies
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Mihael Mello Keehl
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Will they even be able to connect online and see miiverse and os stuff working?
that is precisely why we expect a Nintendo Direct to hit either right before this happens or as the press get their units.
there's no way Nintendo lets the press out all the details without understanding half of it.
IrishNinja
Member
i like how some of this is looking, pretty exciting being just under a month away, and we should finally have some solid impressions right around then.
wii channels brought a lotta stuff i didnt use, and some i did with roomates for a bit but forgot about later (mii maker, vote channel, etc), i hope they work to keep these things more interesting.
it's funny how some of the meta-features/etc kinda take, though - maybe it's GAF's fault but i check my 3DS activity log all the time. im looking forward to the WU having one, i know the wii kinda did but is there any word on if it'll transfer over or not? some great times on there, even if half of it would prolly read "USB HD Loader" app anyway, heh.
wii channels brought a lotta stuff i didnt use, and some i did with roomates for a bit but forgot about later (mii maker, vote channel, etc), i hope they work to keep these things more interesting.
it's funny how some of the meta-features/etc kinda take, though - maybe it's GAF's fault but i check my 3DS activity log all the time. im looking forward to the WU having one, i know the wii kinda did but is there any word on if it'll transfer over or not? some great times on there, even if half of it would prolly read "USB HD Loader" app anyway, heh.
Don't expect a complete overall/revolution on the dashboard side, as i said on a previous thread, it's a natural evolution of the Wii "channels" organization, with improvements, some of them deriving from the 3DS.
It will be efficient and well-thought.
About Miiverse, there's a possibility it won't be available at launch, considering third-parties can't access it right now.
It really looks like the Wii U will be a multiple stage rocket. To avoid customers being overwhelmed by the plethora of features, keep some ammo against the competition and inject additional momentum during its lifespan, they will have first the system itself and the gamepad, then Miiverse, then the NFC, the two gamepad's, etc.
A nice move imo
It will be efficient and well-thought.
About Miiverse, there's a possibility it won't be available at launch, considering third-parties can't access it right now.
It really looks like the Wii U will be a multiple stage rocket. To avoid customers being overwhelmed by the plethora of features, keep some ammo against the competition and inject additional momentum during its lifespan, they will have first the system itself and the gamepad, then Miiverse, then the NFC, the two gamepad's, etc.
A nice move imo
IrishNinja
Member
i dunno, man. sony said stuff like that when PSN was having its growing pains, but i dont want to wait for features like buddy lists, background downloading, accomplishments syncing etc
if there's a basic miiverse with these standard services (id fucking love custom soundtracks but im not holding my breath) at launch, and they build on that, id be okay
if there's a basic miiverse with these standard services (id fucking love custom soundtracks but im not holding my breath) at launch, and they build on that, id be okay
The Elite
BOSS
That sounds like PR wank.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
There's almost no practical, real world advantage to drip feeding OS features. If they're not there at launch it's because Nintendo still hasn't finished them. Would be pretty friggen silly not to have Miiverse available from the get go though.
Ahh okay. We're talking about the same thing, just in my head I'm putting Miiverse and Nintendo Network in a similar ballpark.
Ahh okay. We're talking about the same thing, just in my head I'm putting Miiverse and Nintendo Network in a similar ballpark.
Well, as i said, it's not available to certain third-parties. So maybe it will be there at launch but only Nintendo games will take advantage of it. Or miiverse is made in a way that a "first iteration" would be totally independent of the game content, so even if studio X had not the chance to implement it directly in their game, the Miiverse skeleton is here to handle basic functions such as comments on certain part of the single player mode, boards to share advices on multiplayer, etc. There are a lot of possible scenarios.
For us ? Yes of course, i mean, we can handle at the same time 6700 buttons mouse/keyboard dedicated to mmo + headseats + game content + a theorycrafting stat sheet on excel + 5 websites + MSN + skype + eating some bagels + yelling at our surrounding.
But for the average customer ? No. Look at the Wii U ad from yesterday, it's already pretty packed in explanations. Imagine adding on top of that Miiverse, NFC, etc. The casual (read: occasional player) audience would be overwhelmed yes. They are selling an entertainment product, not a digital swiss knife.
It just has to be there with both New Super Mario Bros U and Nintendo Land using it. There's no way around it.
Third parties probably just learned of it too late in their dev cycle (likely along with the rest of the world in June) and/or Nintendo is fixing it up with last minute stuff so they're not giving devs access until it's fully ready. Who knows.
Yeah your last speculation is one of the possible scenarios stated above. That Miiverse is in such shape it's not "presentable" to third-parties yet, but good enough for in-house games.
So the return of the Folders?
I hope that this time Folders can have longers name on the display, and not only a letter.
Smiles and Cries
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Go Nintendo posted this as news dude
IceDoesntHelp
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Déjà vu? I could swear you've said this before.
Smiles and Cries
Member
I want to see the documentary film for the teams behind Miiverse and Wii U.
It will be epic around here if Miiverse misses launch
It will be epic around here if Miiverse misses launch
Didn't see this in the OP, but Reggie mentions that Miiverse "may not be there right on launch day"
http://youtu.be/ZYk-bwfNqlI?t=1m40s
could there be a period of time when we won't see these features in launch games like NSMBU?
http://youtu.be/ZYk-bwfNqlI?t=1m40s
could there be a period of time when we won't see these features in launch games like NSMBU?
brochiller
Member
Reggie is just talking about Miiverse on 3DS and smartphones not being available on launch day. They've always said that Miiverse will be available form launch on Wii U.
Yeah i've seen it. Well, the first two sentences are real news from my sources. They are true, but as always, you have to take into consideration the context (third-parties, etc.). The other part is an assumption/educated guess on my part on one of the motive to spread the availability of several key Wii U features, it's not a sure thing at all and i used "it looks like" to emphasis on that
Smiles and Cries
Member
Yeah i've seen it. Well, the first two sentences are real news from my sources. They are true, but as always, you have to take into consideration the context (third-parties, etc.). The other part is an assumption/educated guess on my part on one of the motive to spread the availability of several key Wii U features, it's not a sure thing at all and i used "it looks like" to emphasis on that
I have seen another blog claim NO MIIVERSE at launch from this rumor.
No Miiverse is a very strong claim... to me No Miiverse is pretty much a broken Wii U at this point. The first thing they showed off about the thing. Missing at launch is a huge let down if true. Just saying the blogs are running with bits and pieces of this now.
more than two blogs now and spreading... usual suspects like Zelda Informer and other small Nintendo blogs
Yes, I'm 99.9% certain Miiverse will be there on day 1. Both Nintendo Land and NSMBU feature Miiverse integration - it's inconceivable that it won't be up and running at launch.
Smiles and Cries
Member
I remember it is deeply connected to Mario did not see much about Nintendo Land but I agree this would just not happen for those games.
At least this one it wasn't Gaf jumping on conclusion
Nintendo showed Miiverse in a Nintendo Direct few days before E3, it'll be here, but maybe not 100% complete(like 3rd party can't use it fully right now).
Smiles and Cries
Member
At least this one it wasn't Gaf jumping on conclusion
Nintendo showed Miiverse in a Nintendo Direct few days before E3, it'll be here, but maybe not 100% complete(like 3rd party can't use it fully right now).
Iwata already said this pretty much when he said the mobile part of it was not going to be at launch but the key to Miiverse that he pointed out is that any game can use it even if the dev did not code for the game. This is the main reason Nintendo does not have to provide 3rd parties much of anything yet for Miiverse. They could be waiting for the 3DS/mobile part to launch to give 3rd parties a full API for it.
The dominant feature that's been advertise as THE feature of the Wii U aside from the GamPad not available from day one?
StreetsAhead
Member
I had the thought that maybe that's why we haven't heard much about it recently. They don't want to talk about anything that they're not sure will be their at launch/launch window so they are/were waiting to see just how much of the set up can be implemented before talking. Maybe crazy.
brochiller
Member
Yeah, I hardly expect Wii U's "killer app" to not be there at launch.
http://www.gamesradar.com/miiverse-wii-us-killer-app-reggie-fils-aime/
http://www.gamesradar.com/miiverse-wii-us-killer-app-reggie-fils-aime/
well, as explained, it's not available to third-parties, so there are many scenarios possible, from worst to best, with intermediary cases that could involve this feature being there at launch while the info given is true, we covered a few already (not accessible to third-parties but miiverse will allow basic functions for their games from"outside", without being integrated by the developers themselves, etc)
CrAzYLeGzLU
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Yeah, ZombiU has Miiverse integration.
brochiller
Member
I'm just watching the Pre E3 Nintendo Direct and it reminded me how the console asked the dude playing the game what his mood was. Has there been any mention of the console actively encouraging participation in Miiverse other than this little snippet? I think it's really cool as long as it's an optional feature and would get a lot more people using it.
grimshawish
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Yeah ZombiU is using the Nintendo Network at least - using your 'friends' - is this the Miiverse or is that a secondary system? We don't really know.
But the basics will be there at launch; am not sure why the Miiverse wouldn't be, we already know from Reggie - Miiverse is the OS on this thing.
But the basics will be there at launch; am not sure why the Miiverse wouldn't be, we already know from Reggie - Miiverse is the OS on this thing.
CrAzYLeGzLU
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Didn't Iwata also mention that it's the first thing you see when you turn on the Wii U? Wouldn't make sense for it not to make launch if that's the case.
grimshawish
Banned
Quite. It would be Nintendo creating an OS for a network they've just not flicked the switch on for yet.
StreetsAhead
Member
There have been no hints. NCL is due for their regular Nintendo Direct soon (before the end of October). New NSMB2 DLC is coming by the end of the month and Crashmo/Fallblox has yet to be announced.
Nintendo's quarterly releases are this week and they will probably have an investors meeting to go with it.
Any idea what day the investors meeting is? I forget if we've ever got big information from the meetings/reports in the past..
brochiller
Member
Anybody know if they are perma bans on D-e-f- and Mihael Mello Keehl?
Excellent! We should at least get some interesting tidbits this week. I hope.
Man, Mihael too..
Phife Dawg
Member
This no Miiverse at launch is crazy talk.
So what about the in-game notifications in Zombi U? Is that not Miiverse?well, as explained, it's not available to third-parties, so there are many scenarios possible, from worst to best, with intermediary cases that could involve this feature being there at launch while the info given is true, we covered a few already (not accessible to third-parties but miiverse will allow basic functions for their games from"outside", without being integrated by the developers themselves, etc)
Smiles and Cries
Member
never seen anything like this before for ZombiU wonder if it's Miiverse at all?
still Miiverse is feature I am most hyped about hope to see it in more games.
I would love to see Need For Speed Most Wanted Wii U delayed months into next year just to have it in there along with all the other features.
MrGame&Watch
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Nintendo's biggest problem is it's lack of openness with the third parties. Only ZombieU seems to have Miiverse integration because Nintendo and Ubisoft have a strong relationship going into launch. Everyone else seems to be left in the dust.