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Wii U's Miiverse - A Guide for Dummies
- Thread starter EatChildren
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Really, if we have to have these avatars, I guess Microsoft has the best approach. But it's ugly too.
And everyone needs to stay far, far away from the PlayStation method. Gross.
That's what is confusing me. Everything I keep seeing about this system is that basically the Miiverse will be the first thing everyone sees, and you use it to navigate to programs, settings, online functions, etc.
Is there a more standard OS that can avoid this process, much the same way PlayStation Network has HOME that you need to open separately but a regular OS on the side?
I won't die from too many jaggies, you are right. I've seen the screen and used it in action, though, and it's simply something I will avoid using where possible, is all, where there is a superior solution. I know it won't always be possible, but where I can limit its use I'll take that road.
That's not what I'm referring to.
Someone took some off camera shots of ZombiU and there were notifications on the corner (which I think looked like the miiverse icons, sorta).
Ah here we are:
No idea if its anything to do with miiverse, but I thought it was.
edit; Oh balls. Banned site which has WiiU news....Daily.
shadyspace
Banned
It doesn't have to be, that's optional. And fine, UI. Miiverse is not analogous to XMB or the Dashboard. They've said time and time again it's a social network integrated into the Wii U's menu, not the menu itself.
Their is no reason for Nintendo to abandon the Mii's, I do wish though they made them look better, I like the Xbox Avatars.
I like Miis, much better than I like Xbox avatars. Even with or maybe because of the simplified features you are able to create an easily identifiable representation of yourself. Miis look like well designed caricatures of the people they represent. Xbox avatars do not.
See above.
this is why this shit is so confusing... conflicting reports all over the place. Nintendo needs to get more specific already with only a few weeks left to go heh
with all the "games" I'll be purchasing on day 1 of Wii U's launch, this menu stuff may be something I fool around with a lot on launch day. That and Xenoblade, anyway
NekoToshiro
Member
I'm fine with Miis I hope we get a some clothing options. I hate my Xbox360 avatar and his tight jeans. . .
That's not what I'm referring to.
Someone took some off camera shots of ZombiU and there were notifications on the corner (which I think looked like the miiverse icons, sorta).
Ah here we are:
No idea if its anything to do with miiverse, but I thought it was.
edit; Oh balls. Banned site which has WiiU news....Daily.
That pop-up was among the screens I linked you to. It has nothing to do with Miiverse. We know that already.
Yeah I see the same pop up now. Thought it looked different in the one I was trying to link to bit its the same - my bad.
Wasn't saying noone knew that already, was just pointing out where I was coming from.
And looking at some of your responses to people - you're obviously well read on miiverse and thanks for keeping people up to date. There's really no need for the impatience though mate. This is a thread to discuss miiverse after all, and not everyone has time to read everything on the subject so they ask questions or pose queries. Those in the know can inform without condescending
Yeah I've always liked the miis really. It's just the lack of limbs that bothered me. Weirdly for a Nintendo "character" it seemed a poor design choice (aesthetically at least).
Miis are cute. Cuter than the Xbox avatars. Avatars are... i dont know... they just feel kinda douchey*
But miiverse, i dont think it will catch on
I know its a lame comparsion, but you do remember the wii "channels" everybody checked once and then forgot about, right? Like "everybody vote"?
*hope im saying it right
But miiverse, i dont think it will catch on
I know its a lame comparsion, but you do remember the wii "channels" everybody checked once and then forgot about, right? Like "everybody vote"?
*hope im saying it right
I think Miis should stay simple, even if they add some customization like the hats from 3DS StreetPass games. Simple, but customizable Miis mean a broader appeal and they're an incentive for people to experiment which is why we see so many weird and different Miis like Wookies, Michael Jackson, Captain Falcon, Ghandi...
There's a huge difference though.
1. Everybody votes isn't the first thing you see when you turn on your Wii, now is it?
2. Wii U's online structure is, or at least should be, much better than the Wii's, which would allow people to actually connect their console and utitlize its unique features.
A better comparison would be the itunes top 10. So many people care about that crap because its one of the first things they lay their eyes on, I think that caught on.
Davey Cakes
Member
I agree about Miis. I think they're great. They make either for a pretty simple caricature of a real person, or a decent representation of a fictional character. Miis are "simple fun." I don't particularly care for Xbox avatars. They do a better job of making people look like people, but come off as "goofy" to me in pretty much everything. The simple approach of Miis and "cuteness" made for a balance that Avatars just don't really have. As for Sony's approach to the concept with Home, that was just a misfire.
I think that Wii had a lot of good concepts that just weren't properly fulfilled. "Channels" were promising and neat on a conceptual level but they just didn't feel very integrated into the Wii itself. In fact, the Wii overall tried and mostly failed at giving a true sense of community with its online features. It had bits and pieces, but nothing to pull it all together. The Miiverse, on the other hand, seems like a much better attempt at making the Wii U feel "connected" with the rest of the Nintendo-gaming world. This is mostly because it's trying to be more like an actual social network rather than a weakly-connected social experience like the Wii's "Everybody Votes" and "Check Mii Out" channels. Miiverse is optional and yet it's like an extension of the Wii U's OS. I like what I've seen so far.
Smiles and Cries
Member
Well could go with the Animal Crossing look too...
Just do not like Miis because I never got one to look like me but would like to see something more charming used
Just do not like Miis because I never got one to look like me but would like to see something more charming used
I was being facetious. But it has worked like that in the past. Getting photos on or off Nintendo devices has always been insanely cumbersome.
gamergirly
Member
They should be about as simple as Xbox 360 avatars IMO. I hope they do something similar to Find Mii and Find Mii 2. Maybe just a free eShop game where you use your Mii characters in a rpg setting......
Humm, though they are kinda already doing that with Nintendoland lol
I like miis, they are the best avatars. I don't like their games though... And, I know Pilotwings Resort is not that bad, but I blame the miis for the game not being awesome. Serious if I see Wuhu Island one more time I will shot someone in the face.
Nintendo's idea was to provide the user with a simplified representation of himself inhabiting a game's world. Microsoft's idea was to create an army of display dummies flaunting -- in front of future victims and perpetrators -- the various marketing ploys they succumbed to.
Davey Cakes
Member
I'll agree about Wuhu Island. I think we've seen enough of that. Nintendo can come up with some new place for Miis to hang out. Maybe they can do something with NintendoLand on a conceptual level; stretch it into being more like an actual gigantic theme park.
Wuhu has been in Wii Sports Resort, Pilotwings Resort, and Mario Kart 7. Anything else? Either way, three games is probably enough.
They said in the Iwata Asks for Wii Sports Resort that Wuhu island was conceptualized as a setting that they would reuse for a variety of different games, so unless that's changed, I think we're going to see more of it.
Wii Fit U also.
POWERSPHERE
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Poor Amirox
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Just me or did the Mii design evolve?
Based on the pics I have seen, Wii U Miis appear to be a bit taller, consistently possess solid arms and legs. The redraw of the face elements in HD also seems to have made them every so slightly less abstract.
KittenMaster
Member
Well, for games at least Mii heads are being attached to Mario-like bodies and Nintendo Land costumes made specifically for those games. From what is posted in the OP it looks like their basic design is relatively the same.
axisofweevils
Holy crap! Today's real megaton is that more than two people can have the same first name.
Iwata said that they wanted the island to be like a character, starring in several different games.
TwEE-N-Toast
Banned
Xbox Avatars are a horribly sad imitation of Miis. As simple as the miis are they give you a lot more creative freedom to come up with wacky little characters.
Ah I forget about Nintendo Direct but I did watch it at E3 last year.would you kindly read the post right above yours?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AkPd...ailpage#t=758s
2012 Pre-E3 Nintendo Direct
watch. it won't be skype.
Is it weird that if you want to have video chat with someone with Wii U since most of my friends won't get Wii U. Therefore I would be high likely to chat with strangers on Neogaf who owns Wii U. They should implent Skype or anything similar to it but I remember Sony owns Skype...? :O
You're thinking of Microsoft.
When Apple announced Facetime they promised to make it an open standard. But to no one's surprise that hasn't happened.
I don't think there's any open standard video calling protocol that Nintendo could have used. Correct me if I'm wrong.
QueenOfThorns
Member
This has a lot of potential. Seems like it could be used to make every game on it like Demon's/Dark souls.
Smashing Drive
Banned
That would make a lot of sense.
XMPP is an open standard and supports video chat via the Google developed Jingle extension.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
The Miis walking around in the Nintendoland hub show the best representation of these "new" Miis. I believe Iwata has said it before that Miis will be changing slightly.
And welp I went to my gamestop today to pay off my Wii U a bit and all I have is 116 left. They told me no midnight ;( screw them!
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
The Miiverse is integrated into the OS. It is part of the OS, and it is what you'll see when you boot up the system. But it's not the only part of the OS, and not necessarily the main way you'll navigate the system. That's what the second screen on the GamePad is for.
Iwata has stated that, initially, a more traditional menu/channel based navigation screen will appear on the GamePad. I assume it will be very similar to the Wii and 3DS. You'll use this to directly access your applications, games, menus, settings, and all that crap.
Miiverse is like...it's like having the map screen of a DS/3DS game appear on the lower screen. It's an 'overview' of the social networking Miiverse, the feed of information and networking Miis appearing in this image next to icons of your games and applications. You don't necessarily use Miiverse the image to navigate the OS.
And as Iwata stated, the OS and Miiverse display are interchangeable between the GamePad and main display. If you'd rather the traditional display appear on the main screen, fine, Miiverse will appear on the GamePad instead. End of the day, the point is both will always be enabled. You've got two screens, not just one.
How the traditional OS screen actually looks is a mystery. Nintendo hasn't shown it yet.
Iwata has stated that, initially, a more traditional menu/channel based navigation screen will appear on the GamePad. I assume it will be very similar to the Wii and 3DS. You'll use this to directly access your applications, games, menus, settings, and all that crap.
Miiverse is like...it's like having the map screen of a DS/3DS game appear on the lower screen. It's an 'overview' of the social networking Miiverse, the feed of information and networking Miis appearing in this image next to icons of your games and applications. You don't necessarily use Miiverse the image to navigate the OS.
And as Iwata stated, the OS and Miiverse display are interchangeable between the GamePad and main display. If you'd rather the traditional display appear on the main screen, fine, Miiverse will appear on the GamePad instead. End of the day, the point is both will always be enabled. You've got two screens, not just one.
How the traditional OS screen actually looks is a mystery. Nintendo hasn't shown it yet.
Smiles and Cries
Member
I am thinking I need a new ISP just so I can take full advantage of being online all the time with Miiverse. Right now my current wifi setup is set in a way that if I am online with Wii it kicks my macbook offline, if I have my 3DS using it same problem I can only use one device at a time.
Unless I can get my ISP to fix this standard for my wireless devices I'll need to get something else to use Miiverse without interruptions.
Unless I can get my ISP to fix this standard for my wireless devices I'll need to get something else to use Miiverse without interruptions.
What?!!! miis over avatars any day, you can have way more fun with miis.
Agreed. Xbox avatars all kinda feel the same to me. They all had similar proportions, and while there are plenty of outfits people can buy for their avatars (ugh), i feel like all the different outfits can't change how they all look fucking the same. They all have the same shitty poses, and shit eating grin that i expect some microsoft board member thinks people should wear.
Miis are kinda like a model of simplicity. You can customize the face, and color of the outfit, but that's it. It's not going overboard. I've always at least felt that you can add more character and personality with the faces on a Mii.
I've made multiple Miis, and consistently I feel like I'm able to make one that looks like me. Never been the case for avatars.
Smiles and Cries
Member
you guys bringing up MS Avatars makes me wonder if MS will also have a Social Network hub based around them just so they can do this "me too" again
In other words how long until Miiverse is copied?
In other words how long until Miiverse is copied?
Someone told me Nintendo confirmed that, at least communities in the style of Mario Kart 7 being system-wide. If they made those "communities" cross-game it could be a really cool online gaming feature that neither Sony nor Microsoft have.
Yeah I see the same pop up now. Thought it looked different in the one I was trying to link to bit its the same - my bad.
Wasn't saying noone knew that already, was just pointing out where I was coming from.
And looking at some of your responses to people - you're obviously well read on miiverse and thanks for keeping people up to date. There's really no need for the impatience though mate. This is a thread to discuss miiverse after all, and not everyone has time to read everything on the subject so they ask questions or pose queries. Those in the know can inform without condescending
Sorry, some people here just don't even read the last page or even the last few posts. Gets very frustrating after a while. I'll try to reign it in even further.
Sorry, some people here just don't even read the last page or even the last few posts. Gets very frustrating after a while. I'll try to reign it in even further.
Yeah sorry, I'm probably guilty of that lately as I'm sneaking a read whilst at work! No worries though.
Back to ZombiU, I wonder why they didn't just tweak their notifications and other semi-online features to fit into miiverse? I assume it was introduced to devs too late in the game maybe.
Any chance some launch window games might get some miiverse love by the time they launch?
tetrisgrammaton
Member
man nintendo is starting to get dated
The only one that might use it out of the retail games is Scribblenauts. They already said they would back at E3 but then backpedaled later a little bit. I doubt the sports games will have it crammed in at the last minute because ...well ...effort. Effort, port and sports games don't go well together
And I believe the Cloudberry Kingdom guys flat out said they wanted to put it in there. I guess they have a bit more leeway with smaller eShop games since they don't have the hassle with pressing discs in time and stuff. But that might not make it out this year so who knows.
I really don't think we'll see any non-1st party games with Miiverse this year (maybe one)
errm ...?
I suppose you are connecting to the Internet through the router the company provided, right?
Then you just need to buy an extra wireless router and connect the devices to there.