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Yakuza 5 demo - 11/27/2012 (JAP PSN)

Dantis

Member
Lmao no way. That can't be it

That'd be sooooooo out of character if Kazuma just disowned Haruka over that.

I think you're missing the point.

Kazuma let Haruka go and be an idol, because that's the kind of person he is, right? Then those guys are questioning the parenting skills of girls who become idols. Kazuma bristles because they're indirectly criticising him.

At least, that's how I interpreted what Gacha-pin said.
 

rvy

Banned
I think you're missing the point.

Kazuma let Haruka go and be an idol, because that's the kind of person he is, right? Then those guys are questioning the parenting skills of girls who become idols. Kazuma bristles because they're indirectly criticising him.

At least, that's how I interpreted what Gacha-pin said.

I agree with the men. Kazuma failed as a parent. He failed as a parent and now we all must suffer because of his mistakes.
 
R

Retro_

Unconfirmed Member
I think you're missing the point.

Kazuma let Haruka go and be an idol, because that's the kind of person he is, right? Then those guys are questioning the parenting skills of girls who become idols. Kazuma bristles because they're indirectly criticising him.

At least, that's how I interpreted what Gacha-pin said.

Oh I thought Kazuma was saying that stuff for some reason

my bad I lack basic reading comprehension

Figured it out though and it makes alot more sense.

Can't wait for the end game with Kazuma kicking down the door to her company and beating the shit out of everyone
 

Mistouze

user-friendly man-cashews
I agree with the men. Kazuma failed as a parent. He failed as a parent and now we all must suffer because of his mistakes.
True. She should have been german-supplexing fools left and right instead of submitting herself to Japan's phallocracy.
 

Dantis

Member
Was just about to come here and ask if this is worth it

Amazon has it from like 5 sellers at $17.50 so it's not that big of a discount, but is the game fun or just a half-assed spinoff?

I enjoyed it a lot, though the story is a lot weaker than other Yakuza games.
 

Tizoc

Member
I'd like to believe it's very likely. I mean, we did get all the mainline ones. I heard dead souls did pretty good too, even though it was rather meh.

I suppose if there is no mention of it by E3 2013, then I might start to worry. I would hope it would come out by summer next year though.

I don't think the Yakuza games were ever promoted during E3 >_>;
Heck SEGA hardly promotes any of their games.

I enjoyed it a lot, though the story is a lot weaker than other Yakuza games.

The ending was awesome though, and it shows you why Kiryu is the badass we know and love him as.
 

MoosiferX

Member
The girl in the dog sub quest is named Haruka. But that quest is not a funny one but with a serious tone. Kazuma also implied...gave us a vague hint why he and Haruka don't live together anymore in the conversation with the girl.

I guess I just found it funny that I was helping a girl in a white jacket and a red skirt with a dog who's name was also Haruka. That and I was laughing as I threw those chumps in the river! :D

The only thing I could pick up from the initial conversation, due to my lack of the nihongo, was that maybe her family was leaving (moving that day?) and she didn't want to go back home.
 

geebee

Banned
Yakuza games have shit shooting mechanics. Dead Souls is based around these shit shooting mechanics. How can it not be awesome, right?
I dunno, just because it didn't play like every other third person shooter.. I didn't find it to be shit. If anything, it sparked nostalgia of older shooters like Cannon Spike.
 
If you guys can hook your Yakuza brethren up with a video link of some demo gameplay, that would be great.

I'll just watch it while crying into my pint of chocolate chip cookie dough ice ream.
 

lunch

there's ALWAYS ONE
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announcement before or @ E3 2013 at the latest

you can take that to the bank, people
Yep, I'd even be willing to take a ban bet on it. It'll come here. It doesn't matter what it takes--Yakuza 5 will be released in English if it's the last thing I do.
 

Kazzy

Member
Yep, I'd even be willing to take a ban bet on it. It'll come here. It doesn't matter what it takes--Yakuza 5 will be released in English if it's the last thing I do.

And I'd be willing to let you take that bet!

I would at least say that it's the least likely that any mainline Yakuza game has looked to be localized. But then again, I said the exact same about Dead Souls.
 

Persona86

Banned
Yep, I'd even be willing to take a ban bet on it. It'll come here. It doesn't matter what it takes--Yakuza 5 will be released in English if it's the last thing I do.

I'll join you on that bet. (nobody will actually ban us for this thou haha)
 

Dantis

Member
Yakuza games have shit shooting mechanics. Dead Souls is based around these shit shooting mechanics. How can it not be awesome, right?

No it's not. Dead Souls uses completely different mechanics.

Have you actually played it?
 

Dantis

Member
Does the demo count?

Haha, I guess so?

To be fair, I don't actually remember how guns work in the mainline games, but I feel like they don't the over-the-shoulder aiming, move and shoot etc.?

And they definitely don't have infinity ammo like Dead Souls does.

You're not meant to play it like a typical shooter. It's all about hammering the trigger to kill off waves and waves of enemies. It actually works really well.
 

lunch

there's ALWAYS ONE
Does the demo count?
I really enjoyed the demo, but its mechanics do differ, especially since you can now aim (which I'm pretty sure is in the demo, as well). The shooting mechanics still aren't great, but they're definitely more fleshed out than they ever were in the mainline Yakuza games. As much as I enjoyed the demo though, I couldn't make it through Dead Souls--although it's possible the game gets better after the first act. Unless you want to complete your Yakuza collection, there's little reason to buy it.
 

rvy

Banned
I didn't mean that the mechanics were the same, poor English on my part. I meant that the shooting mechanics in Yakuza games are trash and Dead Souls is no different. It just happens to be more complex trash.
If SEGA wanted to do something nice, they should have canceled that thing and localized Kenzan instead. Pretty sure localizing it would have been cheaper than making Dead Souls. Add Trophies while you're at it.
 

Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
I didn't mean that the mechanics were the same, poor English on my part. I meant that the shooting mechanics in Yakuza games are trash and Dead Souls is no different. It just happens to be more complex trash.
If SEGA wanted to do something nice, they should have canceled that thing and localized Kenzan instead. Pretty sure localizing it would have been cheaper than making Dead Souls. Add Trophies while you're at it.

You are not taking into consideration that the West is second to Japan when it comes to this franchise. The game was made for Japan first and just happened to be ported to the US later. Not to mention the type of work and $$$ that goes into securing rights for a western release. Localization is more than just translating text and slapping it into a game. Seriously with the zombie craze + the yakuza IP itself Dead Souls had a better chance of selling that Kenzan. Just because folks enjoy the yakuza IP does not mean they will enjoy the feudal japan setting. So its a far larger risk for them to localize a title where it would be in an unsure position in regards to potential sales.

Dead Souls it seems was more of an experimental title for them where they got the team to mess with doing a full on third person action shooting type of game. Am sure they learned a lot by working on that title which was put to use when they also did Binaray Domain. Granted even that game had broken mechanics am sure what was learned from Dead Souls did help them a lot.
 
I really enjoyed the demo, but its mechanics do differ, especially since you can now aim (which I'm pretty sure is in the demo, as well). The shooting mechanics still aren't great, but they're definitely more fleshed out than they ever were in the mainline Yakuza games. As much as I enjoyed the demo though, I couldn't make it through Dead Souls--although it's possible the game gets better after the first act. Unless you want to complete your Yakuza collection, there's little reason to buy it.
Playable Majima, that's one reason!

and honestly the best
 

rvy

Banned
You are not taking into consideration that the West is second to Japan when it comes to this franchise. The game was made for Japan first and just happened to be ported to the US later. Not to mention the type of work and $$$ that goes into securing rights for a western release. Localization is more than just translating text and slapping it into a game. Seriously with the zombie craze + the yakuza IP itself Dead Souls had a better chance of selling that Kenzan. Just because folks enjoy the yakuza IP does not mean they will enjoy the feudal japan setting. So its a far larger risk for them to localize a title where it would be in an unsure position in regards to potential sales.

Dead Souls it seems was more of an experimental title for them where they got the team to mess with doing a full on third person action shooting type of game. Am sure they learned a lot by working on that title which was put to use when they also did Binaray Domain. Granted even that game had broken mechanics am sure what was learned from Dead Souls did help them a lot.

How much did that POS sell anyway? Depressing if it was more than Y3 and Y4.
 

lunch

there's ALWAYS ONE
I prefer Akiyama to Tanimura, but Tanimura was fun too. I think they made the right choice choosing Akiyama again.
It seems like people vastly preferred Akiyama, so they clearly made the right choice, but I found Tanimura's fighting style much more interesting, and I loved the cop drama feel of his act. It easily had the best finale as well, and
boat chases
better be in Yakuza 5.
 

Persona86

Banned
It seems like people vastly preferred Akiyama, so they clearly made the right choice, but I found Tanimura's fighting style much more interesting, and I loved the cop drama feel of his act. It easily had the best finale as well, and
boat chases
better be in Yakuza 5.

Yes controlling a cop for a change made the game feel fresh, and his side stories were also pretty good! Who knows he might make a return one day.

Hopefully Akiyama's return in Y5 will be interesting and unique enough to make him worthy.
 

rvy

Banned
Tanimua has cool fighting mechanics. Yakuza 6 should be a prequel with Nishiki. Or Ryuji Goda. Dat tattoo.

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Does the demo count? Because if it does, it's a shooting game with shit shooting mechanics.

I found it got a lot better the further in I got. Definitely one that series vets will get more out of in terms of fanservice, but definitely thought it better than the majority opinion seems to be.
 

lunch

there's ALWAYS ONE
Tanimua has cool fighting mechanics. Yakuza 6 should be a prequel with Nishiki. Or Ryuji Goda. Dat tattoo.
I remember IrishNinja entertaining the idea of the next Yakuza game being the fall of Kazuma, and I'd love for that to happen, just so that we can move on to a new main character. I love Kazuma, but he's getting a bit stale.
 

Parakeetman

No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Im still let down that besides in Dead Souls that there is yet to be a game in the real series that allows for Majima as a playable main character. Was hoping for that to be the case in 5 but seems like that isnt going to happen now or any time soon potentially lol.

Since hes one of the more colorful cast members in the series.
 

Dantis

Member
Im still let down that besides in Dead Souls that there is yet to be a game in the real series that allows for Majima as a playable main character. Was hoping for that to be the case in 5 but seems like that isnt going to happen now or any time soon potentially lol.

Since hes one of the more colorful cast members in the series.

I'm glad that he's not playable. He's a great side character, and over-exposure ruins people like that. I want him to show up, hit some baseballs, pull out a knife in a fair fist-fight and be wacky all the while.
 

IrishNinja

Member
And he's not even a very good character, so you know there's a problem when he's the selling point.

awww cmon man
Goda was the one who didnt get to do much really, at least the setting made it feel like "Majima's day out"

I'm a Daigo guy, but of the playable characters, nobody beats Tanimura.

really surprising we havent had a crack at Daigo yet, i was thinking after 2 we would for sure. also props on Tani - he doesn't get mentioned much but his style (and as you said, the cop drama) stuff made him fun to play.

I remember IrishNinja entertaining the idea of the next Yakuza game being the fall of Kazuma, and I'd love for that to happen, just so that we can move on to a new main character. I love Kazuma, but he's getting a bit stale.

it'd be balls out, and now that you put it that way, open up things for Daigo! only, Nagoshi's crazy so you know even if they did try something like this, it'd be convoluted & involve an unnecessary return of Nishkiyama or something
 

BIGWORM

Member
And this is a reason why I made a JP PSN account a long time ago.

With my reason visit to it to grab the Yakuza 5 demo, I've come to see the JP PSN's Plus free grabs are infinitely better than the USA's. GoW I and II for free. =( Playing this demo is going to remind me that I need to finish 4, still (final chapter).
 

lunch

there's ALWAYS ONE
awww cmon man
Goda was the one who didnt get to do much really, at least the setting made it feel like "Majima's day out"
To be fair, I never even hit his section. The game was just too boring.

really surprising we havent had a crack at Daigo yet, i was thinking after 2 we would for sure. also props on Tani - he doesn't get mentioned much but his style (and as you said, the cop drama) stuff made him fun to play.
As did I, but I also thought that Sayama would be in 4, so who knows! I hope Tanimura makes a cameo in the fifth game.

it'd be balls out, and now that you put it that way, open up things for Daigo! only, Nagoshi's crazy so you know even if they did try something like this, it'd be convoluted & involve an unnecessary return of Nishkiyama or something
I'd like to think that Kazuma would sacrifice himself to protect Haruka from a falling set that was exploding after a bunch of rogue lions destroyed the stadium because they were hypnotized by a group of Korean mafioso that were being used by a group inside the CIA.
 
Just finished the demo:

What i liked :

- a separate window for extra/special moves is a good idea
- cars !! only a small part of Y3 had them moving ..it's good to see them back
- the city seems to have a nice area .. it'll be fun to explore
- voice work is spot - on
- You can have a competent ally in regular battles ! You can even do finish moves with him ! ( this is awesome.. i want more ).
-"remove your hand , don't touch me !"
-Virtua fighter 2 is nice
-did i just ram someone's head on the ground ?

What need work :

-Some textures aren't on par with the rest ( too bad ) Only in some places.
- some colision problems with regular ennemies.

What i disliked :

-Nothing
 
It seems like people vastly preferred Akiyama, so they clearly made the right choice, but I found Tanimura's fighting style much more interesting, and I loved the cop drama feel of his act. It easily had the best finale as well, and
boat chases
better be in Yakuza 5.

I'm a big fan of Akiyama (the Yakuza series needed a protagonist with a sense of humour, plus he's just effortlessly cool), but Tanimura had the best written side stuff in the game.

And Akiyama reminds me of the guy from Homunculus.

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cj_iwakura

Member
I liked Tanimura far more than I expected by the end of Y4, but Akiyama's easily my favorite. Just a nice, awesome guy.


Also, if I'm not mistaken, Kiryu can knock girls over now too.
 
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