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Lightning Returns trailer

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-Winnie-

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I didn't mind the outfit at first, but seeing it in motion when she runs with her back facing the camera... well, it looks like a mess of cloth going all over the place.
 

LuuKyK

Member
OMG! I just woke up, I'm so excited T_T But where can I find a link that actually works?!

edit:

FUCK, I didn't mean to watch this gif but my eyes happened to stop when I was scrolling through the page T_T Come ooooooon, LINK!

YEEES! Praise the goddess Yoshi Chan, join us on the festivities.
 

Yoshichan

And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
I posted a link like 4 posts above...
Thank you! (I'm trying to avoid reading/seeing the gifs, so I just went to Post Reply immediately)

Let's do this!
 

jiggle

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I didn't mind the outfit at first, but seeing it in motion when she runs with her back facing the camera... well, it looks like a mess of cloth going all over the place.

it's like an octopus stripper
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Saw the trailer, disappointed (yes, I was one of the few who was enthused about Lightning Returns as the concept sounded great on paper).

Now that i've seen it in action, the biggest thing sticking out is the sparsity of the towns. You have these massive environments with only a couple of people going about their business. FFXII had about 10x as many in Rabanastre for example, and you could talk to most of them - it's not a fucking hard thing to do!

Visually it also doesn't look impressive at all. I know this is late in the gen, but based on the concept art I wanted something more stylized.

I wasn't really sold on the light/dark worlds either, since if you do this in a game I expect a much greater visual difference than just the same environment... in the dark. Really pointless "selling point".

The costume design looks like it will get annoying very quickly. I see Lightning is also still just as loaded with personality as ever. -_-

And finally the gameplay. It... looks like XIII and XIII-2 on the surface. I don't know what I expected and it probably is pretty good since I genuinely liked the battle system in XIII. I just thought that with such big changes for Lightning Returns, we would see big combat changes too.
 
I know 13-2 didn't sell to expectations but why couldn't I get a sequel to that game + noel instead of this garbage

Goddamn noel was awesome. I'd much rather see him happy.
 

jb1234

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Yeah, this looks like trash. I think the biggest disappointment for me is that they're bringing back the same music team from XIII-2. I didn't care for the direction they took at all and I prefer Hamauzu solo. Oh well.
 
Wow nothing about that trailers looks good.
WTF is Lightning wearing , graphically poor and just bland .
We need next gen so SE can move the hell on .
 

Yoshichan

And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Oh my GOD, what can I say? That was absolutely amazing!

If you take the framerate out of the way (I have no doubt that they'll fix it), everything looked really good. This version of Blinded by Light sounds nice! The "pole-dancing" made me go "O_O".

I'll have to study the things that went on during battle to gather some information, but I have to head to work so I'll do that later!

Fantastic trailer, I need more!!

edit: and the town-environment reminded me of Resonance of Fate!
 

Resilient

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Oh my GOD, what can I say? That was absolutely amazing!

If you take the framerate out of the way (I have no doubt that they'll fix it), everything looked really good. This version of Blinded by Light sounds nice! The "pole-dancing" made me go "O_O".

I'll have to study the things that went on during battle to gather some information, but I have to head to work so I'll do that later!

Fantastic trailer, I need more!!

edit: and the town-environment reminded me of Resonance of Fate!

Really? It reminded me more of OoT Hyrule Castle.
 

linko9

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The main problem I had with XIII-2 is that they just reused all the shitty enemy models from XIII. Looks like they're doing the same here. Real bummer. But I actually liked XIII and XIII-2 quite a bit, so I'm looking forward to this.
 
Wait, was the frame rate not an issue with the video and actually from the game? Because its fucking awful. I figured it had to be the video rather than the game since the game itself looks like a PS2 port with a better main character model and slightly better NPCs.. Holy crap. Why does this look so bad? What happened.. I mean, ff13 let me down and all but it wasn't like this.. and at least that game had some awesome art direction at times.

This looks... really, really bad. I can't believe its a Final Fantasy..
 

Resilient

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The main problem I had with XIII-2 is that they just reused all the shitty enemy models from XIII. Looks like they're doing the same here. Real bummer. But I actually liked XIII and XIII-2 quite a bit, so I'm looking forward to this.

I wish they just reused assets from XIII-2, some of those environments were fantastic. Hopefully we see some better environments further down the line but...who am I kidding.
 
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Deleted member 20920

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Noel's in the game. His arm is at least. Pause at the Clock animation parts and you can see him.

Yup I saw his arm too...Maybe everyone might be back with the same clothes again this time...
 

Stark

Banned
The main problem I had with XIII-2 is that they just reused all the shitty enemy models from XIII. Looks like they're doing the same here. Real bummer. But I actually liked XIII and XIII-2 quite a bit, so I'm looking forward to this.

There will be old and many new ones so not entirely. Like the two before the Reaver and it could also just be a placeholder.
 

Dead

well not really...yet
Jesus Lightning looks fucking ridiculous

Crazy how they took what was probably the best modern Final Fantasy protagonist design and turned it into...this
 

LuuKyK

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Oh my GOD, what can I say? That was absolutely amazing!

If you take the framerate out of the way (I have no doubt that they'll fix it), everything looked really good. This version of Blinded by Light sounds nice! The "pole-dancing" made me go "O_O".

I'll have to study the things that went on during battle to gather some information, but I have to head to work so I'll do that later!

Fantastic trailer, I need more!!

edit: and the town-environment reminded me of Resonance of Fate!

Good to see that your good taste remains intact as expected.
 

CorvoSol

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I knew he was bad...but not this bad.

Literally no end to how bad he is. Come on now.


So, having seen the trailer, my impressions:

1.)LOL had to be brazil that would have the trailer up still. Fight the power, BR.
2.)Story will suck, so no expectations there, other than that it will suck and I will hate it because it is Toriyama and I dare you all to name one game he wrote that didn't suck that isn't FFX.
3.)Lightning's outfit is ridiculous, but when wasn't it?
4.)Gameplay is acceptable, and honestly, looks fine to me. I'm sure I will have as much if not more fun with it than I did XIII.
5.) I don't trust FF to handle God anymore. Especially Toriyama, and here's why: God is always, or almost always amoral to evil in JRPGs, and Toriyama proved with XIII-2 that he can take a cosmology as interesting as XIII's and dumb it down to the most stereotypical crap you could find in such gems as Crisis Core.

I mean, you have this blue and orange morality going on with the feud between Pulse, Lindzei and Etro, and Type-0 does a good job of making you kind of feel that, but XIII-2 it's just The Goddess this and The Goddess that.

This is going to be a far cry from Tactics, where, while The Church ultimately is exposed as evil, The Gods' benevolence is open to interpretation because of the nature of the events in the game.

Frankly, I expect it to be handled at a level of about Breath of Fire II, if not worse.

6.)Had to have Hope narrate, didn't they? Shipper's'll be going gaga over that.
 

LuuKyK

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I thought they intentionally hid him because they haven't finished his new design. I could be wrong though. :p Not that I mind since I liked his outfit.

His baggy pants were a mess though. Hopefully Lordmura will create a new outfit for him too.
 

LuuKyK

Member
Late but they just have paintings randomly hung on their walls? They aren't even murals; they have frames.

I'm curious does any city do this?

What if they are for sale or something...? I've seen things like that in public places like parks, squares, etc...
 

Stark

Banned
The city is supposed to have a surreal style so that helps (at least to me it does). This is right in the art of Luxerion as well.
 
This game might turn out alright, I bought XIII and 2. I'm not really hating on the game, rather, what I've seen so far.

That was an incredibly shit trailer. Lightning running around a PS2 Dollet sliding down poles, fighting the same enemies from XIII in the middle of town, not even hinting at the MM mechanic which is what the whole game is supposed to be about. Where's the environment showcase, new spells, cool fucking shit? WHERE IT AT?

Sure it's possible to be excited about the idea of the game, but what what about that trailer looked exciting to anyone? Seriously?

This was meant to drum up initial interest.
 

LuuKyK

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hmmm the attacks looked to be mapped to the face buttons instead, because i see no selection cursors.

Quoting myself from earlier in this thread:

:lol

Anyway, I think I got how the new ATB works.

Here is a gif:

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The top rectangle on the right represents the new "paradigms" or whatever they will be called. Here Lightning is on the Divinity one. I noticed there is also a Cerberus one, with different attacks/magics/abilities, which further proves my point.

So, you can see that while she is attacking the attack rectangle is popping up, well, thats because the player is pressing the respective button on the controller (duh!). Yeah, so, looks like its basically:

Triangle = Basic Magic
Circle = Physical Attack
X = Advanced Magic
Square = Guard

Now how many attacks can she do? The superior bar on the sword thing there reduces while she attacks so thats what will restrict the times you attack. Its likely to cool down after that. Its probably when you will have to doge the attacks or guard. The other bar is obviously her health.

I also noticed some little squares under the monster HP bar, I'm supposing that is going to be something similar to the stagger bar somehow. Maybe when its empty you will deal more damage, or be able to launch the enemy.

The only thing we don't know about is that circular thing with 10000 points...
 

Subaru

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That's the first time IN MY ENTIRE LIFE that I look to a Squaresoft/Square-Enix game and I say: Wow, it's so ugly! =(

Who stole the colors? Is Square-Enix FINALLY entering in this gen making sepia games? =P
 
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Deleted member 20920

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Late but they just have paintings randomly hung on their walls? They aren't even murals; they have frames.

I'm curious does any city do this?

Well it is sort of justified for a city that is constructed from various parts of time and people have lived for centuries. Can't blame them for being loony

I'm starting to see a resemblance between this town and the one in Shadow of Destiny/Memories. That PS2 game with time traveling.
 

Stark

Banned
That was an incredibly shit trailer. Lightning running around a PS2 Dollet sliding down poles, fighting the same enemies from XIII in the middle of town, not even hinting at the MM mechanic which is what the whole game is supposed to be about. Where's the environment showcase, new spells, cool fucking shit? WHERE IT AT?

Next trailer or scans probably.

Just like XIII/XIII-2 and other games.
 

LuuKyK

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This game might turn out alright, I bought XIII and 2. I'm not really hating on the game, rather, what I've seen so far.

That was an incredibly shit trailer. Lightning running around a PS2 Dollet sliding down poles, fighting the same enemies from XIII in the middle of town, not even hinting at the MM mechanic which is what the whole game is supposed to be about. Where's the environment showcase, new spells, cool fucking shit? WHERE IT AT?

Sure it's possible to be excited about the idea of the game, but what what about that trailer looked exciting to anyone? Seriously?

This was meant to drum up initial interest.

How about waiting? This is the first trailer, and its super short, they would never show every single piece of the game in it, specially considering that this is early footage... I'm sure they still have a lot of new things to show us. Its just a matter of time.
 

FireVoa

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Why do the background environments look like paper cut outs almost? Reminds me almost of Paper Mario. It makes Lightning pop out so much because of it. She looks completely out of place in this world whenever I see her fighting or even running around casually.
 
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