Hero_of_the_Day
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Lightning Returns trailer
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Final Fantasy is coming to Vita.
Meccanical
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That wouldn't make it better. It's not just graphical power. I mean the design of that city is just... ugh. The whole trailer seemed so drab and boring.
Meccanical
Member
It looked better on paper.
It always looks better on paper.
They added narration and title cuts to a trailer of an old alpha build?
Meccanical
Member
It's going right back up over the weekend.
Femmeworth
Banned
Snapshot King
Member
Again you choose to selectively misread my statement. First, I say that the green clock shot is IDENTICAL to Persona 3s, I mean it.
http://youtu.be/m1Qr6oTjxfQ?t=18m23s
http://youtu.be/ajSAdgXU1ts?t=39s
Also, as for the Mirrors Edge stuff, I'm not saying, HEY! LOOK! ITS RED THEY COPIED IT! I'm saying, hey, colouring all climbable objects in the environment the exact same shade of a colour as the game that popularized that several years ago looks super lazy.
EDIT: Christ even I can't read my own posts, I didn't say it was identical, I said they stole it. Which they did, because it's identical. I was confusing my inner monologue with my actual post there for a second.
Meccanical
Member
OH SNAP
It looks to me like the battles are no longer ATB based, but you get some sort of direct control ala Kingdom hearts, seeing as the commands are laid out roughly where the buttons are on the controller.
The graphics definitely took a hit. The ff13 series of games basically regressed graphically with each iteration :/
Still, graphics or not everything. Give me an actual fun game to play and a story that makes a some sense and you'll get my money SE.
The graphics definitely took a hit. The ff13 series of games basically regressed graphically with each iteration :/
Still, graphics or not everything. Give me an actual fun game to play and a story that makes a some sense and you'll get my money SE.
StunandStab
Member
Those aren't identical at all. They're not even the same colour.
Look at the numbers on each of the clocks. Completely different
SoulUnison
Banned
Ya know, I didn't mind Lightning's character shift in XIII-2 because it always seemed like something she didn't necessarily want to do, but that it was a role she knew she had to fill for reasons that would be revealed later. Etro and time travel and Caius and all that.
But what the hell is this Lightning? Without commenting on character or story, I thought Lightning's design and outfit in XIII were fantastic. It was a conservative, "tough", look that seemed practical for the setting.
Lightning's *character* shifted from XIII's "We'll decide our own fate!" to XIII-2's "I am a tool of the Goddess! Predestination is the way of the Universe!" But, again, I tolerated it because it seemed that Lightning was playing the role almost begrudgingly, in some sort of "lesser of two evils" scenario.
Now LR Lightning is some kind of Bikini Warrior Goddess. She's starting to sound like Cloud with her deep, angsty way of saying everything, except, where Cloud constantly sounds pessimistic, Lightning nearly always seems to sound full of herself now. Going around whipping off sunglasses dramatically in her Battle Stripper attire.
She looks like some sort of one-off crossover DLC with XIII-2 and Bayonetta.
And where'd the beautiful environments of XIII and XIII-2 go? Almost every environment in that trailer looked embarrassingly bad with occasional framerates in the teens. The "battle background" looked like something from FF IX.
I thought reducing the playable party to just Lightning was going to speed things up a lot and make this more of a Kingdom Hearts style Action RPG, but instead it just looks like they threw out every improvement they made in XIII-2 and stuck Lightning in some kind of super slow, janky, Devil May Cry Arena.
Nearly every interesting character in the XIII saga has been left behind plot-wise at this point, too. Where's Sazh in this? Snow? Hope's apparently still around, but he's something of a walking DEM. Sarah's out of the picture, who knows where Noel is. Isn't there still a ton of his and Caius' storyline to take care of? I guess Fang and Vanille can always show up due to sparkly magic.
Man, I was so excited for this game when it was announced. It sounded like they were building again on XIII-2 and really stepping up the battle and game systems, but this trailer is just total anti-hype. This looks like a game that might have been a tech demo or a proof of concept or something for the *original* XIII.
But what the hell is this Lightning? Without commenting on character or story, I thought Lightning's design and outfit in XIII were fantastic. It was a conservative, "tough", look that seemed practical for the setting.
Lightning's *character* shifted from XIII's "We'll decide our own fate!" to XIII-2's "I am a tool of the Goddess! Predestination is the way of the Universe!" But, again, I tolerated it because it seemed that Lightning was playing the role almost begrudgingly, in some sort of "lesser of two evils" scenario.
Now LR Lightning is some kind of Bikini Warrior Goddess. She's starting to sound like Cloud with her deep, angsty way of saying everything, except, where Cloud constantly sounds pessimistic, Lightning nearly always seems to sound full of herself now. Going around whipping off sunglasses dramatically in her Battle Stripper attire.
She looks like some sort of one-off crossover DLC with XIII-2 and Bayonetta.
And where'd the beautiful environments of XIII and XIII-2 go? Almost every environment in that trailer looked embarrassingly bad with occasional framerates in the teens. The "battle background" looked like something from FF IX.
I thought reducing the playable party to just Lightning was going to speed things up a lot and make this more of a Kingdom Hearts style Action RPG, but instead it just looks like they threw out every improvement they made in XIII-2 and stuck Lightning in some kind of super slow, janky, Devil May Cry Arena.
Nearly every interesting character in the XIII saga has been left behind plot-wise at this point, too. Where's Sazh in this? Snow? Hope's apparently still around, but he's something of a walking DEM. Sarah's out of the picture, who knows where Noel is. Isn't there still a ton of his and Caius' storyline to take care of? I guess Fang and Vanille can always show up due to sparkly magic.
Man, I was so excited for this game when it was announced. It sounded like they were building again on XIII-2 and really stepping up the battle and game systems, but this trailer is just total anti-hype. This looks like a game that might have been a tech demo or a proof of concept or something for the *original* XIII.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
I'm chuckling to myself about how Noi and I desperately wanted to see the alpha footage because the battle system seemed interesting to us.
Positioning mattering is probably associated with Defender commands. I was expecting something like ranged attacks, evading/blocking with a button (preferably a trigger button), running around, attacking the monster from behind, hitting a weak spot, shortening the time your spell hits the enemy by casting it very close... stuff like that.
Hahaha... ha... meh.
Positioning mattering is probably associated with Defender commands. I was expecting something like ranged attacks, evading/blocking with a button (preferably a trigger button), running around, attacking the monster from behind, hitting a weak spot, shortening the time your spell hits the enemy by casting it very close... stuff like that.
Hahaha... ha... meh.
Did you really expect that? Even I didn't think they would change the battle system that much...
StunandStab
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I think you set your expectations WAY too high Schala.
Meccanical
Member
If expecting fun engaging battle systems is having high expectations what kind of shit world do we live in.
Oh well, I couldn't resist watching the trailer after reading all those posts here on GAF.
Lightning's outfit is surprising, but I don't hate it.
Battle system looks like what they promised so far (and this is what people should have expected based on Requiem of the Goddess DLC and the first news about LR's battle system).
The town looked cool, but I sure hope they fix that framerate.
Lightning's outfit is surprising, but I don't hate it.
Battle system looks like what they promised so far (and this is what people should have expected based on Requiem of the Goddess DLC and the first news about LR's battle system).
The town looked cool, but I sure hope they fix that framerate.
A similar battle system to the antecedent games. Which were already fun and engaging.
I'm thinking this is stuff (build) even before that. I think they had mentioned hints of some of it being in there and they might not be showing it for PR purposes or still in development.
You can trust me
That is ridiculously adorable/hilarious.
IonicSnake
Banned
The trailer have been taken down. :/
StunandStab
Member
The kinds of things Schala wants have never even happened in any video game ever as far as I know...
Now, to expect that to come out of THIS game, in particular, well...
Its fucking sad, and very ironic that final fantasy is the brand that is killing square- enix when it was the series that brought them back from the brink.
I hope versus is amazing and is what we all hope it will be, but my ability to have faith in them is growing dimmer with every announcement, nothing lasts forever I guess.
I hope versus is amazing and is what we all hope it will be, but my ability to have faith in them is growing dimmer with every announcement, nothing lasts forever I guess.
toastyToast
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Meccanical
Member
Why is Lightning wearing Gunnars?:
The outfit is bad all around, at least the cloth flows nice.
She looks like a Motoko Kusanagi wannabe.
To you? Probably not if you still think these are some types of holy grails.
Snapshot King
Member
At this rate we'd be lucky to get another FF8.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
Yes, I did. I swore I read that positioning was going to matter in this game.
And that's what I wanted out of this game. The 13 games were incredibly irksome in that I could not tell my characters how to position themselves (especially if a defender decides to aggro and a healer's standing right next to them and feeling a brush of an AoE attack--that's just incredibly ridiculous). If I wanted someone to evade an enemy hit, they shouldn't be randomly walking up to an enemy when they're not attacking it because that's just silly. Sometimes when casters cast spells, the "throw" spells like Fire take longer to get to an enemy when they should really be walking up a little bit and casting them so they hit the enemy faster because of a shorter range. That sort of thing.
That's what it means for positioning to matter. It's not just evade this or block this. It's also for elegance and efficiency in battle.
Nope, I'm just supposed to sit there and hit a button and let the game do the work for me. Obviously.Meccanical said:
I...
I think I'm going to... go to bed...
Gladly they aren't, since a company is supposed to go on instead of being stuck in the past.
StunandStab
Member
Is it confirmed we can't control Lightning's positioning on the battlefield?
If that's true, I am also pretty disappointed about that.
EDIT: As far as my last comment goes, Schala, I reread your post and realized that my last post was a gross exaggeration... sorry about that... haha
If that's true, I am also pretty disappointed about that.
EDIT: As far as my last comment goes, Schala, I reread your post and realized that my last post was a gross exaggeration... sorry about that... haha
slightconfuse
Banned
that outfit is even more ridiculous
We really don't know if we can control Lightning or not yet. I think there is still a possibility.
Exentryk
Member
We can.
Snapshot King
Member
Yeah, the past where they made good games. That's the point he's trying to make. Not of a certain style, or graphical precedent or what have you, but a simple level of quality.
Meccanical
Member
I don't see anything, which means it hasn't been confirmed.
Maybe, but you would also need to agree the games he listed are of implied quality and/or that they peaked in that time frame which was implied.
Neither of these things I remotely agree with so I most certainly don't want SE focusing any more on that time period then they must.
Exentryk
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That's why you used more Thunder magic instead of Fire or Blizzard. But yeah, positioning would have added a bit of depth to the battle system. This is where Versus will excel to an extent, just like KH.
They have said so thus they have confirmed it.
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