D
Deleted member 13876
Unconfirmed Member
For the sake of not overtly spoiling ASM already, I propose the outcome of the avatar bet ElNarez and I made kicks in next week or something.
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
December Comic |OT| Apocalypse NOW - Time Enough At Last.
- Thread starter The Take Out Bandit
- Start date
- Status
Is there anyone in this thread who isn't aware of what's going on?
Haemolacria
Member
Guys, I just read my first Hellboy ever(Seed of Destruction, naturally) and now I'm tempted to buy all of them. Apparently those library editions of Hellboy, which I recall receiving praise here, are about ~$31 on Amazon - is that the best way to experience those comics?
i think you're right but it seems like they're gonna stretch this out for a few years. Ive been thinking about this more and in a way Spidey won.not only did he not break his stupid no one dies rule,he effectively defeated otto as well by turning him into a good guy.thats a victory in a way.it will be so satisfying when Otto admits Peter was the better man and relinquishes control to him again. My main gripe is people like MJ not knowing - it's a real kick in the nuts to die this way and to not have any sort of funeral or send off.poor Pete
It'll last 6 moths to a year tops, Wacker's got a hard on for this sort of thing so you might be right in it lasting longer. Also going from Avenging,
there's no way Otto gets with MJ. Not with the way he's been treating her in that issue.
That said if you take away the rage inducing part of ASM 700, the insane chess match Otto and Pete have is pretty fun. Pete does well considering Otto holds all the cards.
Pretty much. It's just a matter of taking the time to read it. I've been saying the same since I read it last week or whenever.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Man, if ever there was sure evidence of the overreaction of comic book fans, ASM 700 is surely it.
Now that I've read it and all the tea leaves are out of the...ball...tongs...thingie...it's so blatantly obvious that this is temporary. It'll be a nice fun few months (and really, this is a fundamentally and classically fun Spider-Man story) and then
. Actually, I'll bet a zillion bucks that's exactly how it all turns out in the end lol.
But really
It's shocking and not at all unhilarious how bent out of shape people are getting over this.
Now that I've read it and all the tea leaves are out of the...ball...tongs...thingie...it's so blatantly obvious that this is temporary. It'll be a nice fun few months (and really, this is a fundamentally and classically fun Spider-Man story) and then
Ock will get shunted into an AI at Horizon Labs, using his intellect for good
But really
at its core it's a pretty great Ock v Spidey story, he's learning about the true nature of the dude he hated, etc.
It's shocking and not at all unhilarious how bent out of shape people are getting over this.
D
Deleted member 13876
Unconfirmed Member
Well, we're still using spoiler tags for any discussion of it.
slightconfuse
Banned
bought Mara and the last 2 fear agent trades. Remender nailed the ending to Fear agent so well. the whole story of Heath Huston is great(even if the time travel stuff is a little deus ex). i think it might be better than UXF.
dcbs shipment coming this friday most likely...
Incredible Hulk #1 was okay, it feels like what Waid did with Daredevil in that it starts with Waid going " you know that stuff that came before my book? lol forget that crap let's roll" Which is good, since it was a bag of crap tied to the character. Eventually that mentality is going to work against me when it trashes a run i liked to do something Loeby....which is what Nova #1 might be.
That is definitely the best way to go about mah ninja. Make sure to pick up Conqueror Worm, it's a must read!
As for Spider-man #700. Marvel seems to of suceeded. I am hearing people that don't even like comic books talking about it. If they wanted to get some sales and people talking they did just that. I mean, just look at this thread.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
Comics is all we talk about tho
i made cookies last night and tonight i'm making an apple pie.
December Baking l OT l Read a comic while it's in the oven
krypt0nian
Banned
Yup I've been saying this the whole time. Nothing shocking.
Spike Spiegel
Member
"A negative reaction is better than no reaction at all."
I keep trying to think of an instance where a strong negative reaction to a story concept actually succeeded in making me want to read it more and not less, and I keep drawing a blank. I'll keep trying though.
Yeah, at most it compels me to read a wiki or a forum post detailing it with spoilers, but to go from there to spending money on it...
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
I just had the basic same experience. And guess what? Unlike many series, this one's quality stays excellent throughout!
Love me some Hellboy.
Palette Swap
Member
Yes it is. Get them, they're awesome.
I'm moving in a couple of days and the moving company we hired is going to learn to hate all these absolutes and omnibuses.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
Member
I don't think anyone's really getting out of shape except the dude that made the death threat. The funniest thing to me is that marvel is pretending like its not temporary.
D
Deleted member 13876
Unconfirmed Member
What do you expect?
You know how many people now talk about the Clone Saga in a positive light? You know how many people were ragging on the Infinity Gauntlet and Crisis when they were released? If there is something I've learned, is that stories are of more value in comic books for how they are remembered when the dust settled. Box Office openings are for movies, longevity are for comic books. Look no further than this image to get some idea of where I'm coming from.
But let's not fool ourselves, a lof of big things are happening at Marvel especially right now, but Spidey is the thing you guys keep going back to . I mean spoilers
Fantomex is resurrected, X-force is disbanded, Captain America is in an alternate reality fighting for his life and raising his own little Hope Summers, The Avengers are fighting villains that didn't break a sweat handcuffing Thor, Cable's got a new team, Simone is back writing Batgirl
I fear the day when people look back on civil war fondly. People already think fondly of identity crisis
Loved that one too, it's even better because in the lineart preview it looked like it would be some sort of emotional scene. :lol
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
Those people are very bad people.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
Member
Not saying anything or saying "read and find out" would have been preferable to attempting to intentionally mislead their readers.
this panel cracks me up
This killed me. Sums up the character so well in just one panel. There was also the one before it where they recruited Wolverine and said they had beer. I can't wait for the next issue.
Since it was in a similar bar I immediately thought of
They should have mentioned the beer!
I think Marvel does look back fondly on Civil War, at least on a "holy shit this sure did sell a shitload of comics" level. AvX especially was trying to reclaim some of that Civil War money.
To Marvel, Civil War was a prime example of quality creators coming together to put out a fantastic story that readers loved and sold a lot of copies. I doesn't get any better than that.
Yeah, totally. Cap's death and the media reportage of that is also something they've tried again and again to reproduce and it's been less successful every time.
this panel cracks me up
Which comic is that from?
I talked about briefly on the previous page. I love the way Johns writes Arthur and Mera, thanks to him they've become two of my favorite DC characters. The super dickery from the Trinity at the end cracked me up, "
You get once chance to talk to Orm Arthur and then we're coming for him. BTW one chance means five minutes and we're totally gonna eavesdrop and then decide for you how it's going.
Avengers #2. Hickman's just doing the set up so far, all the recruiting and whatnot. It's still a really fun book and Hickman is just great with the characterization, this is going to be the Marvel book to follow (along with New Avengers). If only it wasn't double shipped.
Anyway, it sounds like there is still a big twist coming up in Superior #1.
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
It's excellent.
TheDarkKnight774
Member
ASM 700 went about what I expected. I'm a little surprised at the outrage now when this was being outlined for a couple months. This bit will last a year or so and were back to the old status quo.
Telosfortelos
Advocate for the People
Hey comic gaf! One of the Christmas gifts my wife got me is a gift card for the local comic shop. It's a really thoughtful gift, as we've just moved from Texas to Orange County, and this gives me the chance to both explore the community and get back in to comics a bit.
And so I come to you for advice. I'm reluctant to get into main-line super hero comics for fear that my completionist compulsions would encourage me to pick up more and more intertwining series. I like things that end, or at least feel well planned and meaningful, and I'm afraid I'd feel more dissatisfied than not reading most Marvel or DC ongoing books. With that said, I'm still willing to pick up something if it's particularly exceptional.
I like artsy things that have something worthwhile to say, I like compelling world building (sci fi or fantasy), and I like things that are generally thoughtfully crafted. I haven't read a ton, but some things I've enjoyed include Sandman, Mr. Punch, Red Star, WE3, Watchmen, and oh god that's a generic sampling of pretentious comics. I'm sure there's more, and I know I've enjoyed what little of I've read of various serials throughout the past ten or so years.
Some things I'm considering picking up:
Any recommendations or thoughts about the books I'm already considering? I'm not necessarily restricting myself to new comics, but I feel like I want to know more about the comic book scene as it exists today, so it might be beneficial.
And so I come to you for advice. I'm reluctant to get into main-line super hero comics for fear that my completionist compulsions would encourage me to pick up more and more intertwining series. I like things that end, or at least feel well planned and meaningful, and I'm afraid I'd feel more dissatisfied than not reading most Marvel or DC ongoing books. With that said, I'm still willing to pick up something if it's particularly exceptional.
I like artsy things that have something worthwhile to say, I like compelling world building (sci fi or fantasy), and I like things that are generally thoughtfully crafted. I haven't read a ton, but some things I've enjoyed include Sandman, Mr. Punch, Red Star, WE3, Watchmen, and oh god that's a generic sampling of pretentious comics. I'm sure there's more, and I know I've enjoyed what little of I've read of various serials throughout the past ten or so years.
Some things I'm considering picking up:
- Saga (a well reviewed space opera from someone who's most famous book was already too long for me to start getting in to when I discovered it? I feel like this might be a must)
- Django Unchained (I'm curious, at least)
- Hawkeye (Perhaps dangerous considering paragraph 2, but it seems to be getting a lot of acclaim)
- Underwater Welder (from user reviews, I'm not sure if this is actually meaningful or if it's just interesting).
Any recommendations or thoughts about the books I'm already considering? I'm not necessarily restricting myself to new comics, but I feel like I want to know more about the comic book scene as it exists today, so it might be beneficial.
WanderingWind
Mecklemore Is My Favorite Wrapper
A) Welcome to Orange. Great place to live!
B) Try Atomic Robo, Hellboy and Hellblazer. AR is very excellent, lightweight sci-fi. Hellboy is absolutely amazingly beautiful fantasy that is so much, much better than the movies. Hellblazer is modern fantasy that had a shit movie made from it that had nothing to do with the premise of the comics.
Yeah, you'll definitely do ok with Hawkeye as far as superhero comics go. It doesn't intertwine with anything (so far) and it's doing an amazing job at doing its own thing. The intro page of every issue even makes fun of how detached and easy to get into it's supposed to be.
It gave us asshole Iron Man though. And in a way made Captain America not a joke.
Telosfortelos
Advocate for the People
Thanks for the quick replies! I hadn't heard of Manhattan Projects or Atomic Robo, but they look interesting. I've read a few Hellboy trades (not in years though), and I definitely enjoyed it quite a bit. Hellblazer is another one of those thigns that I really want to get in to, but I'm fearful of the length. I don't like to start things I don't intend on finishing, and that's a huge investment, plus apparently it isn't great at all points or something and I might have to think about dropping it and then there's the whole New 52 relaunch that's coming. So yeah, haha, I'm really interested in Hellblazer, but fearful.
Hawkeye sounds interesting, and I appreciate the advice on that front. I'm not against picking up superhero comics by any means, so long as they aspire to use the related tropes and popular imagery to tell something deeper and more interesting.
Pop-O-Matic
Banned
Over half the people I've talked to want either Avengers 2 or 3 to be a Civil War adaptation, so I think we are already there.
BlueScrote
Member
I don't know, my pulls this week was quite the haul..
Possible ideas:
* The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
* Planetary
* Transmetropolitan
* Y the Last Man
Planetary might be very much up your alley, and it's a relatively small investment since it wrapped up at 27 issues.
- Status