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Okay, TeamCG. Come own up to your foolishness. #trolljima
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Besides logic and common sense? Did Konami just happen to produce the most realistic CGI anyone has ever seen out of thin air?
Thank you, will keep this tab open until the event begins
MGS hypes me up like almost nothing else, only a few other franchises come close - bring it Joakim
Thin air? how about dedication and research? I'm not saying for sure it's CG, but CG is always evolving, anyone can take it to the next step with the right research and tools, it's just a matter of time.
Deified Data
Banned
The guy's face looks amazing, it looks true-to-life, but it looks "animated" to me. Not that it has any CG tells, but the movement just looks deliberately crafted. Normal people don't emote like that when they're talking unless they're hammy actors.
it's not really that realistic. Also the fact that he's almost entirely covered up helps obscure that.
Please tell me you were aware of GTTV before this and I didn't just tell you Santa isn't real.
Well, I did say that I don't believe it's CGI. I just don't get the argument of "here is the second pic, it finally proves all of you CGI people wrong".
BurritoBushido
Member
how can we say that it cant be CG when we have this:
http://youtu.be/q7k4i6ugnC4
http://youtu.be/q7k4i6ugnC4
dave is ok
aztek is ok
Do you really think this guy is the head of a development house no one had ever heard of before this game, which happens to look exactly like Metal Gear, announcement?
He is a hammy actor
Santa is CG I knew that.
I think you need to be the one asking yourself that. If you look at that pic and keep insisting its CG I have a bridge in London I would like to sell you.
People want to believe but that background is the same one from the interview. Its just a weird interviewee trying to be weird for the sake of being weird and people are reading more into it.
You have to ask yourself something with this too, if it really was CG, what you would be witnessing would be historic in terms of fidelity and execution. Use Occam's razor.
*Cranes neck upwards*
Hi guy, up there on your high horse.
He's a very visible media figure in an entertainment industry. There's nothing wrong with him having and making some fun. The criticism for Doritos Pope was absolutely warranted, but this isn't even remotely similar.
Besides, Geoff Keighly is only a journalist in the same sense as Mario Lopez. He's entertainment. You should expect fun, gimmicky, collaborative stuff like this from him. I'd actually like to see more of it, instead of this bullshit overly-serious path that the internet (myself and GAF included) has forced industry reporting down.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
I hate that people keep saying this. He's a host, a gaming figure, a person who is supposed to do stuff like this. He's not a games journalist.
This is what Geoff does. Helps promote games.
I didn't notice your avatar at first and it freaked me out. I was Kojima'd.
NoirVisage
Banned
because you're a reasonable person.
ChocolatePuddin
Member
What the hell did I just watch?
You want bad things
This is all fun and games and all of us realize that Geoff isn't really a person we should be looking to for objective views on ANYTHING because you can't ever tell if he's being candid or if he's being the hype man he's paid to be by everyone in the industry.
I just wish he'd tone down the caricature a bit sometimes and at least try to appear genuine.
MoonsaultSlayer
Member
I check in hours later and see people posting the same images as if they're new. Hideo and Joakim awesome show, great job.
Beautiful isn't it? Almost looks like CG.
Thank you, will keep this tab open until the event begins
MGS hypes me up like almost nothing else, only a few other franchises come close - bring it Joakim
Hey, what is that GIF from?
Deified Data
Banned
No, as I said I think he's CG. Modeled after a hammy actor, sure.
DoDonGouki
Member
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TheNamelessOne
Member
WAAAH! Kill it with fire!
Krappadizzle
Member
Yea, that's pretty terrible.
Then that's likely the case, don't you think?
Rather than Konami wasting their effort to create an almost imperceptible CG lookalike for a show that airs after midnight and will only be viewed by a couple hundred thousand people max.
That's Technoviking
Hellsing321
Member
Holy Shit! Everything makes sense after this gif!
Joakim is from Norway.
Vikings are from Norway.
Metal Gear Solid deals with techno bullshit like nanomachines.
Joakim is Techno Viking!
lazer_bean
Member
you mean journalism ?
"Videogame journalist", that's the first job he lists on his twitter.
the last thing he's supposed to do is help promote games. That's what he does, though, yeah.
on topic: i dont believe it's CG from what i've seen but i really really hope it is.
FlashbladeGAF
Member
Kojima rendered see thru nurses clothes and is about to give a big speech on Fox Engine.
Why would he even want to discuss the fox engine unless it does something special( I would hope).
Zero's looked great, but is it GDC speech great?
and the dudes face is wrapped in bandages. Some people are acting like they are seeing the whole face.
Graphics Horse
Member
Over 1,000 replies over a stupid 4 chan post, great stuff guys!
Once again, you're going to the most extreme possibility instead of taking the obvious one: the guy is a shitty actor with exaggerated gestures.
This is so silly.
FlashbladeGAF
Member
of course I'm going extreme (it's not that extreme)
this is neogaf
but seriously I've already stated that it could be either or
CG is more fun.
I could totally see Kojima serving us appetizers before the big meal
NoirVisage
Banned
remember you said that.
Guiberu
Member
Cleared up the Twitter image a little. Tried to offer more definition. No matter what I did there was no definable definition on the neck area.
Also worth noting that messing with the levels of the image showed some rather interesting artifacts on everything apart from his head. Suggesting a higher resolution image has been layered atop the low resolution body.
Points worth noting:
- The upper eyelids only half drop. The attached skin doesn't move at all. (i.e. the eyebrow, the recess below the eyebrow)
- The lower eyelids simply don't move. I don't know about you, but I can't move my upper eyelids independently of the lower. More-so, when you are shocked or taken aback by something, the natural is to winch/squint.
- The point of light in his pupil doesn't move in relation to his head movement. In fact it's static within the pupil at all times.
- The shadows around the bandages on the right of the image are not consistent with the head movement
PS4 confirmed!
I think it would be more embarrassing to be convinced it IS CG when it's not, than vice versa. I mean, if it turns it out is CG, the doubters can easily say "Wow, that's really impressive, it fooled me!". If the "believers" are wrong, it's "Hey... that guy acted weird so I thought he was animated"
YouEnjoyMySelf
Banned
Guiberu is messing with my head. WHAT IS REALITY? KOJIIIIMMMAAAAAAAAA!!!!
Rickenslacker
Banned
Yes... yes...! Nothing can steer this off course.
Jesus Christ.
Times like these I wish GAF brought the laughing smileys back.
It's like people have never seen an actor over-emote before in a low-lit space.
Please do. I won't be the one mistaking real life for perfect-quality CG.
3rdamention
Member
I am really enjoying some of the GAF-Detective work in this thread.
I appreciate the investigation. I do have a question. What was the real purpose of this Interview? I mean, the little Fox Engine thing at the end couldn't have been what this short interview was about was it?
I honestly do not think it is CG, so I am really trying to find a purpose. There was nothing new revealed. Why do you meet someone in a hotel so they can tell you that they cannot say a thing then show you some images that reveal nothing on an iPad?
If Mogren is CG, then I get it, Kojima is god, trolled us all, and this is one of the most clever "advertisements" or PR stunts for a game I have seen. However, if Mogren is not CG, then this whole interview makes not sense. It was simply to say that at GDC you will not what the game is and what system it is for. Kojima could have tweeted that.
I think the fact that nothing was really revealed, the 2 were never shown together, and it was so short has people grasping for a deeper meaning.
I appreciate the investigation. I do have a question. What was the real purpose of this Interview? I mean, the little Fox Engine thing at the end couldn't have been what this short interview was about was it?
I honestly do not think it is CG, so I am really trying to find a purpose. There was nothing new revealed. Why do you meet someone in a hotel so they can tell you that they cannot say a thing then show you some images that reveal nothing on an iPad?
If Mogren is CG, then I get it, Kojima is god, trolled us all, and this is one of the most clever "advertisements" or PR stunts for a game I have seen. However, if Mogren is not CG, then this whole interview makes not sense. It was simply to say that at GDC you will not what the game is and what system it is for. Kojima could have tweeted that.
I think the fact that nothing was really revealed, the 2 were never shown together, and it was so short has people grasping for a deeper meaning.