soundscream
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His PGR obsession has warped his mind.
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Forza 5: Behind the scenes look (video) [Up: 1080p/60fps]
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His PGR obsession has warped his mind.
Why would he ask if it's always online if the console's been confirmed to essentially be always online?
That brings up another point... if you only have to be online once every 24 hours, what am I missing out on if my console's offline, other than multiplayer/XBL?
Neko Mimi Mode
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Native 1080p/60fps confirmed?
E3 shall be glorious.
E3 shall be glorious.
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Always online (as in Sim City, Diablo 3, some older Ubisoft games and so on) and "occasionally online" as proposed by Harrison are two very different things.
That will vary from game to game, depending on how they're designed. In Forza's case, we don't know yet.
dragonelite
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Yeah, I knew the distinction between "always" and not, I just wasn't sure if what's-his-face was making it or not.
Curious to see what difference it'll make in FM5, and whether the cloud will mean we'll see some games that *require* a constant connection, even for single-player.
My mental state took a hefty blow just so you guys would keep the faith alive for PGR5 and this is the thanks I get?
Yeah, I knew the distinction between "always" and not, I just wasn't sure if what's-his-face was making it or not.
Curious to see what difference it'll make in FM5, and whether the cloud will mean we'll see some games that *require* a constant connection, even for single-player.
My mental state took a hefty blow just so you guys would keep the faith alive for PGR5 and this is the thanks I get?
Data that isn't sensitive to latency can be done over the cloud.
I'm still hoping for some PGR at E3 but I'm not holding my breathe.
Windom Earle
Member
Yep, might just be upscaled to 1080p. Wouldn't call this a confirmation before they talk about native res.
edit: Ok, that tweet sounds pretty solid.
edit: Ok, that tweet sounds pretty solid.
It is confirmed...
dragonelite
Member
They aren't, hell the entire Phil Spencer article everyone had a heart attack over specifically said they are not holding any developer to a standard in resolution or framerate.
Well of course. You seriously think that saying "Your game has to be 1080p running 60FPS or we won't let it be on our consoles". That doen't mean they couldn't internally push it. Certainly would be a nice change of pace from Sony's 30FPS30FPS30FPs that we have seen so far regarding their next-gen titles.
I don't think Turn 10 needed Microsoft's push to go 60 fps and 1080p but I get what you're saying.
Maybe and it's not like we have heard more details about XBONE games from Microsoft. It's just refreshing to hear about a 3D native 1080p 60FPS game.
Captain Tuttle
Member
Nonsense, he's absolutely right, the shift in tenor on this board is obvious, I'm not sure how you can't see that, I don't think you need specific examples.
Now that being said (and as a pretty big supporter of MS this gen) I'd say that much of the tenor is justified. MS has really squandered the good will of consumers the last few weeks and they deserve every skeptical comment and snarky remark they receive. I'll remain skeptical of them probably until six months after release, when the dust settles after the initial launch period.
swordsman720
Banned
I thought for many Gaffers 1080P@ 60 frames/sec is not possible on Xbox One.
That's the icing on the cake about all this.
The underclocking stuff is a joke why would they start underclock the hardware that these games have already been built on?
to be realistic here guys, its not a case of xbone being powerful to provide easy 1080p@60vsync for everybody, its more the case of turn 10 being damn good coders!
all their games last gen where full 720p@60fps v-syncd.
how many games in total where 720p@60fps vsynced last gen on 360?
but like, real games, not a tennis game or a live arcade game?
all their games last gen where full 720p@60fps v-syncd.
how many games in total where 720p@60fps vsynced last gen on 360?
but like, real games, not a tennis game or a live arcade game?
I see we have moved onto the 5th step in the Kübler-Ross model?
We should actually discuss ways of motion integration by Runge-Kutta of order 4.
Glorious post by Missile upthere BTW.
I have bookmarked it for every single future discussion about physics and nobody will get out of that discussion alive, I promise you that.
It shall fit perfectly on my other 2 favorite subjects, HID/XID wheel support discussion and Pacejka tyre modelling
Can't wait.
Fuck it - who needs two kidneys anyway?
You mean, like AAA games?
lol
We should actually discuss ways of motion integration by Runge-Kutta of order 4.
Glorious post by Missile upthere BTW.
I have bookmarked it for every single future discussion about physics and nobody will get out of that discussion alive, I promise you that.
It shall fit perfectly on my other 2 favorite subjects, HID/XID wheel support discussion and Pacejka tyre modelling
Can't wait.
Tire model is almost always touted as the fundamental aspect that accounts for any game to be called a sim. But you hardly ever hear about actual body mass/chassis/suspension and all relevant movements and measurements that those things generate being talked up in the same fashion.
It isn't exactly a fun topic lol, so I understand why most devs don't go that deep into it.
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Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
That is a very good point. The forza games by T10 never lost frames and maintained full vsync at all times, while providing coats of anti aliasing over all of that.
FunnyBunny
Member
Screw the haters.
I'll be playing Forza 5 on day one and having a blast.
I'll be playing Forza 5 on day one and having a blast.
I dont know, lets count them all..
ninja gaiden was 60, but not locked, the cod's where vsyncd but many not 720p or rock-steady 60.
then ok, beatemups like DoA/VF/SC, dmc, vtennis and probably some more. still not a whole lot of games.. probably I am forgetting some (like rage, which still not 720p)..
greater point being, this generation I dont see native 1080p/60fps being the norm on consoles. even for ps4, that h/w-wise seems to be in a better condition.
so, forza 5 day 1 is a treat. 8)
Feels good. Setting the bar early on here. Of course they pretty much did for racers with the 360 as well.
Bring it Dan.
I was taking the piss from that other guy who said the same thing about AAA games not having 60fps :/I dont know, lets count them all..
ninja gaiden was 60, but not locked, the cod's where vsyncd but many not 720p or rock-steady 60.
then ok, beatemups like DoA/VF/SC, dmc, vtennis and probably some more. still not a whole lot of games.. probably I am forgetting some (like rage, which still not 720p)..
greater point being, this generation I dont see native 1080p/60fps being the norm on consoles. even for ps4, that h/w-wise seems to be in a better condition.
so, forza 5 day 1 is a treat. 8)
scrapplejoe
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Has anyone mentioned or found out if their will be demo stations up and running this game at E3? Or any Xbox One game?
While there were a ton of games at 720p there were very few at 60fps I can think of outside Forza. Which in my mind considering they will push the top end again my hope is much like this gen we will see that sweet spot into 1080p 30fps.
Rage really the only one coming to mind 60fps 720p outside a handful of others maybe.
As far 1080p there were a few, but barely any disc based and I mean full 1080p.
I can only think of Sacred 2 which I played considerably. Though it ran at like 20-25fps at best.
Rage really the only one coming to mind 60fps 720p outside a handful of others maybe.
As far 1080p there were a few, but barely any disc based and I mean full 1080p.
I can only think of Sacred 2 which I played considerably. Though it ran at like 20-25fps at best.
I enjoyed rage goodness in pc version, so I had to look up earlier what was the deal with consoles..
60frames, yes. 720p, no.
dynamically changing resolution to consoles to maintain steady framerate.. both consoles go anywhere down to 640x720 in order to keep the framerate
according to DF (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-rage-face-off?page=2 )
still, this is a thousand times better than having a 30fps or 60fps game when you cruise, and immediately start taking 5-10fps hit when there is action on the screen, right when you want everything to be butter-smooth.
but again, neither rage manages what forza 2, 3 and 4 did
I'm sure they'll have demo stations for the next gen consoles available.
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Burnout Paradise, Dante's Inferno, Mortal Kombat, Bayonetta, Devil May Cry 4, Ridge Racer 6 (according to B3D, RR6 demo was 1440x810 with no AA)...
Dark Star One: Broken Alliance was also 1080p. According to B3D, so were Virtua Tennis 3, FIFA Street 3 and NBA Street Homecourt.
Yup basically the few others I have run across.
Also Bayonetta is like a perfect game in my mind this gen. IQ might have been better but man if it wasn't smooth.
ah yes. burnouts (revenge too) and bayonetta
still, not a whole lot of 720p/60 games huh
Psycho_Mantis
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Next gen is going to be amazing for racers. I thought the video would show more F5 footage but its more like the history of Turn 10.
"I've learned the Nurburgring. I'm a factory driver and I learned the Nurburgring in Forza to prepare for racing their for 24 hours."
Bwahahahaha poor guy hopes he's ok. They better fix that track they call the Nurburgring this time round.
"I've learned the Nurburgring. I'm a factory driver and I learned the Nurburgring in Forza to prepare for racing their for 24 hours."
Bwahahahaha poor guy hopes he's ok. They better fix that track they call the Nurburgring this time round.
phosphor112
Banned
I thought the same thing, though I didn't want to say anything. I'm already damn negative about Forza lol.
drugstore_cowboy
Member
Screw the ring, time and money would be better blown elsewhere imo.
phosphor112
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It should still be invested into. Hell. It's one reason why I love GT/Forza over a lot of PC sims even though their (PC sims) physics just dump on GT/FM. They don't have the ring!
drugstore_cowboy
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GSC 2012 had it, NKPro and r-Factor too but that was a port from GTR iirc.