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PS4 grabs 95% of Consumer Votes after Amazon shuts poll down early

Vashetti

Banned
If you're an Xbox gamer, you still should have voted PS4 in that poll. Why? Because the more Microsoft sees they're making a mistake, the more likely they'll change their policy.

Microsoft will not change their policies because Microsoft don't give a fuck.
 
spoiler: gamers are shallow

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will be interesting to see how this data translates into sales, but I really doubt it means anything

Spoiler: False equivalence is idiotic.
 

Mupod

Member
Isn't it possible to somehow use Xbox controller for PlayStation? Like through some kind of adapter or something? I absolutely hate the PlayStation controller but if I do end up getting a console next gen it will be the PS4 but I really don't want to use the controller.

There's adapters but they generally suck and drop inputs, are expensive, or both.
 
I think the controller debate might be the dumbest one in all of video games. Do people seriously have trouble with using anything really? I pick up the 360 controller I use it all is well. I pick up the dualshock I use it all as well. I excel at games with both, there's no real learning curve or anything. It's just slightly different thumb placement.

It's one debate I'll truly never grasp in my mind. I can't wrap my head around it. It's one thing to simply prefer one over the other but to the point where you simply cannot use the other is just weird to me. Its reached the point where I'm starting to pity those who can't just pick up and use whatever because they can't handle it for whatever reason. Give me some fuckin logitech ass random ass controller and I'll use that too. Give me a Wii U controller and I'll use it no problems.
 
Isn't it possible to somehow use Xbox controller for PlayStation? Like through some kind of adapter or something? I absolutely hate the PlayStation controller but if I do end up getting a console next gen it will be the PS4 but I really don't want to use the controller.

The Dualshock is the one thing holding me off from PS4. The DS3 is just that bad to me.

There are adapters like the Turbo Cross Battle that let you use a wired 360 controller on PS3.

Most people who have held or used the DS4 have really liked it compared to the DS3, but if that doesn't cut it for you, I'd be pretty surprised if there weren't adapters or 3rd party solutions just like there were with the current gen.
 

Raxus

Member
Isn't it possible to somehow use Xbox controller for PlayStation? Like through some kind of adapter or something? I absolutely hate the PlayStation controller but if I do end up getting a console next gen it will be the PS4 but I really don't want to use the controller.

Third party controllers similar to the 360 will be released. Hopefully they will be good quality as well.
 

Rolf NB

Member
I mean this is an debate that has lasted for 2 console generations and it comes down to preference. I've been playing games all of my life and I hate the PS controller analog positions. Playing first or 3rd person shooters the left analog stick is spending 90% of its time in the "up" position. On the DS you have to hold your thumb in an unnatural thumb side gripping and pulling toward the middle of your index finger which cramps my hand pretty bad after about an hour. Whereas the 360 controller all you have to do is flick your thumb up. I'm sorry but for my preference the 360 controller is worlds better than the DS and unfortunately I have 2 3rd party PS3 "360like" controllers and they are complete garbage.
So how exactly do you operate your right thumb while playing the same type of game, and why is that not a problem for you?
 

ascii42

Member
So how exactly do you operate your right thumb while playing the same type of game, and why is that not a problem for you?

Since the left analog stick is for movement, you usually are pressing it up, the same is not true for camera movement.

note: I have no problem with the Dual Shock.
 

Ding-Ding

Member
I have never understood all the controller wars.

If I use the 360 controller for an extended period of time, the DS3 feels really wrong. The same goes in reverse. .

My hands get used to whichever controller I use for a period of time. The only thing wrong with either controller is the 360's awful D-PAD. No amount of use makes that feel right
 

Kyoufu

Member
I have never understood all the controller wars.

If I use the 360 controller for an extended period of time, the DS3 feels really wrong. The same goes in reverse. .

My hands get used to whichever controller I use for a period of time. The only thing wrong with either controller is the 360's awful D-PAD. No amount of use makes that feel right

360's dpad and DS3's triggers. Both improved for next gen. Good stuff.
 

weevles

Member
MS doesn't care. They don't want "core gamers", they just want the TVSportsCalladuty guy. That guy just leaves the Xbone on all the time in his living room and doesn't give a shit about 24 check in or whatever 'cause he's too busy watching TVSports. Maybe he'll Halo or Calladuty it up for a couple of hours in-between, but yeah, TVSportsTVTVsportsTV...
 
I think the controller debate might be the dumbest one in all of video games. Do people seriously have trouble with using anything really? I pick up the 360 controller I use it all is well. I pick up the dualshock I use it all as well. I excel at games with both, there's no real learning curve or anything. It's just slightly different thumb placement.

It's one debate I'll truly never grasp in my mind. I can't wrap my head around it. It's one thing to simply prefer one over the other but to the point where you simply cannot use the other is just weird to me. Its reached the point where I'm starting to pity those who can't just pick up and use whatever because they can't handle it for whatever reason. Give me some fuckin logitech ass random ass controller and I'll use that too. Give me a Wii U controller and I'll use it no problems.

Same here. Makes me really want to question the motor skills of some people.
 

jaypah

Member
Not saying that this couldn't be the way it plays out, and I'm getting a PS4 instead of an X1, I'll ask the diehard PS fanboys and warriors to not bank on this happening just because of these early sales. Shit could still blow up in your face. Ah, who am I kidding m? I smell a steam rolling coming on.

As for the controller debate I dig the Xbox placement for most games but I can rock a dual shock just as easily. After all of these generations changing layouts going back to 1 joystick and a button it's just a non-issue.
 

Curufinwe

Member
They were awful, so I bought the PS3 real triggers to fix them.

This picture is incredibly stupid. If you are unable to offset your thumb by an inch, then you have serious orthopedic and biomechanical issues. Also, the right stick is 'low'.

It also conveniently leaves out the Wii U controllers and the Wii classic controllers which all have symmetrical sticks.
 

xn0

Member
I think the controller debate might be the dumbest one in all of video games. Do people seriously have trouble with using anything really? I pick up the 360 controller I use it all is well. I pick up the dualshock I use it all as well. I excel at games with both, there's no real learning curve or anything. It's just slightly different thumb placement.

It's one debate I'll truly never grasp in my mind. I can't wrap my head around it. It's one thing to simply prefer one over the other but to the point where you simply cannot use the other is just weird to me. Its reached the point where I'm starting to pity those who can't just pick up and use whatever because they can't handle it for whatever reason. Give me some fuckin logitech ass random ass controller and I'll use that too. Give me a Wii U controller and I'll use it no problems.

So how exactly do you operate your right thumb while playing the same type of game, and why is that not a problem for you?

I think that my 2nd major problem with the DS beyond the analog placement is the size. Gripping the DS and putting my palms against the sides of the controller I can press the L1 R1 buttons with my thumbs. I actually have to rest the DS controller on ring and index finger and have my palms 1" away from the sides of the controller for the analog sticks to actually hit near my Metacarpophalangeal joint (upper thumb joint) vs. my carpometacarpal joint (lower thumb joint) either way the DS controller is increadbily uncomfortable. I'm enjoying The Last of us but my left hand is literally still cramping after 2+ hours of play today. I also my hands are big but not gargantuan they measure 8" from the base of my palm to the top of my middle finger.
 

LuchaShaq

Banned
This guy obviously has never learned to use the controllers in the right way.

If you have large hands holding the controller that way is the only way that feels even semi natural even though it's not ideal for using it.

The dualshock is my only concern about the ps4, I will be there day 1 to buy and try third party controllers.


I've never been able to use a PS controller for more than 15 min without hand issues. (rpgs aside where I'm frequently one handing the controller.)
 

spirity

Member
Isn't it possible to somehow use Xbox controller for PlayStation? Like through some kind of adapter or something? I absolutely hate the PlayStation controller but if I do end up getting a console next gen it will be the PS4 but I really don't want to use the controller.

It is yeah, with something like this: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001O89YTU/?tag=neogaf0e-20

I've not tried one but they apparently work well, except in games that use the sixaxis function. I think there's only a few of them though?
 

Des0lar

will learn eventually
we can only work with the data provided. in this case 32 people are in game, 19 of which playing MW2 - so we can conclude 60% (19/32) of gamers are full of shit

bearing in mind that media/internet manipulation is significantly higher in this case, I would estimate 90% of (console) gamers are full of shit post-e3, and if we remove those clowns from the sample then XBO and PS4 are much closer in votes



people don't like change, it's natural to have some initial resistance, but eventually consumers will realise that always online is the way forward

you're right that price is a deterrent, but it's up to MS marketing to justify it to consumers, they certainly have the tech to make a case for the price they are charging, but it's still steep. I'd like to see MS offer subsidies through third parties such as ISPs or TV service providers.



everyone in game is bumped to the front, not just mw2 players, so surely we would be seeing a larger mix of games



could be clearer but it's clear enough



the other 800 probably have the game too but I'm guessing they were sleeping at the time this pic was taken



internet hype of PS4 is through the roof too, and price isn't a factor since you don't have to pledge money towards a console in order to vote



I'll provide you that when you show me data of how many of these voters have preordered

Talk about being delusional jeez
 

Ding-Ding

Member
If you have large hands holding the controller that way is the only way that feels even semi natural even though it's not ideal for using it.

The dualshock is my only concern about the ps4, I will be there day 1 to buy and try third party controllers.


I've never been able to use a PS controller for more than 15 min without hand issues. (rpgs aside where I'm frequently one handing the controller.)

Not being funny but I have large hands and the way he is holding that doesn't make sense. Big hands, big thumbs, so why on earth does it look like he has to stretch his thumbs to reach the sticks?
 

Ra1den

Member
spoiler: gamers are shallow

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will be interesting to see how this data translates into sales, but I really doubt it means anything

What the hell? This makes absolutely no sense as a comparison. People aren't voting for PS4 out of some sort of ideology, they are doing it because the XBone is a shitty product.
 

Kyon

Banned
XBone Stans downplaying the polls/pre order sales data receipts ..... Praying for your fave MS when the real sales data come in... Ch.. A bloodbath
 

Zaptruder

Banned
My thumbs go right between the dpad/face buttons and analog stick when in a resting position. So... seems like I have an all controllers compatible body!

The controller is the main draw of the XBO for me. The DS has always been too small for my hands and felt very awkward to hold.

Not enough of a draw for me to want to buy an XBO mind you, but it's something I'm pretty bummed to be missing out on. I'm hoping for some good 3rd party controllers.

But they've revamped the Dual Shock 4 design in a big way.

Larger, new thumb sticks, new triggers. If the previous DS was too small, then the new DS might be of the right size?
 

diehard

Fleer
What the hell? This makes absolutely no sense as a comparison. People aren't voting for PS4 out of some sort of ideology, they are doing it because the XBone is a shitty product.

So no dedicated servers is an ideology, but a change in DRM makes it a shitty product?
 

Parch

Member
Not suprised. LOOK how some people are reacting to the Xbox One DRM etc.
The people have spoken. Since most of the gaming consumers are teens and young adults, I'm surprised the young generation is so opposed to change and advancement to the digital future. It's very clear they would rather stick with the old system of physical copies. A system that is basically unchanged for over 30 years. Old is best, and the overwhelming strong support for the console that is most unchanged from previous generations is clear.

Any change to the gaming industry and the switch to a digital future is being strongly fought. The future is not wanted, so it's old school for the win. Sometimes the old way is the best way.
 

Linkup

Member
I think the controller debate might be the dumbest one in all of video games. Do people seriously have trouble with using anything really? I pick up the 360 controller I use it all is well. I pick up the dualshock I use it all as well. I excel at games with both, there's no real learning curve or anything. It's just slightly different thumb placement.

It's one debate I'll truly never grasp in my mind. I can't wrap my head around it. It's one thing to simply prefer one over the other but to the point where you simply cannot use the other is just weird to me. Its reached the point where I'm starting to pity those who can't just pick up and use whatever because they can't handle it for whatever reason. Give me some fuckin logitech ass random ass controller and I'll use that too. Give me a Wii U controller and I'll use it no problems.

Same here. The number of people I've seen using the joint of the thumb rather than the point/end on an analog stick is just sad. Such a basic thing yet somehow some people got it wrong.

I've always thought these were gamers that started gaming in the PS1 or PS2 eras vs. many of us that have been doing it since the Atari, NES, or heck the SNES/SGEN eras.
 

Salacious Crumb

Junior Member
I'm firmly in the 'DS3 is a bit shit' camp at least ergonomically. Thankfully though, a lot of people that share my opinion have nothing but nice things to say about the DS4 after using one.
 
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