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[Cranreuch]

http://platinumgames.com/games/the-wonderful-101/ Basically just read that from Kamiya's introduction post near the bottom up. I'd read this for sure (the third blog post). But basically every post so far is adding another wrinkle or mechanic to the basic gameplay.

Thank you! Reconfirms my opinion that the game looks great, and now that I can actually make some sense of things it starts to sound great too.

Hope Nintendo can get a big push going for this game, now's the time to start with the European release pending.

 

[Outtrigger888]

Good to hear! I'll have to get it once I finish up on Pikmin.

Also a tad OT, but is it 60fps? I forget.

Yep, smoooth.

 

[majik13]

Good to hear! I'll have to get it once I finish up on Pikmin.

Also a tad OT, but is it 60fps? I forget.

yes, pretty sure, they have released some downloadable 60fps trailer iirc.

 

[Lagunamov]

Poor Kamiya

 

[CartridgeBlower]

So is the thread title not going to be changed or what? That line isn't being used to describe W101. Kind of shady...

(game sounds great, though.)

 

[Frodo]

This is a discussion board for gaming enthusiasts, that are dedicated to gaming as a major hobby, hence interested in different aspects of the industry and sales happen to be a big, sometimes even crucial part of it. Maybe you should get out of here, if you can't deal with it?

I'm not saying we shouldn't discuss sales. I'm every week on the Media Create Sales or NPD threads doing exactly that. What I'm saying is don't come here to post the game won't sell just for the sake of it. Most of the time feels like people are trying to make the game feel less important because theoretically it won't sell. It adds nothing to the discussion and more often than not it only fuels console warriors to engage battle. And also because, frankly, there are better threads to do that.

But just saying things like "too bad it will bomb", "game won't sell", "it will be lucky if it sells 100k" and leaving don't add anything interesting to the discussion and have absolutely no relation to the quality of the game.

/backseatmod

 

[Deadstar]

Hopefully the Nintendo Direct on Friday does that. I don't think there's a really good demo of the game on video since it's either the NOA folks talking over the game or some IGN guy who can't draw a line on the gamepad.

Watch all of it!

E3 2013 Project 101 Stage Demo

it's a slow burn, but you will see the light (hopefully)

Awesome, thanks! I'll check these out.

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

People coming here to say this game wont sell:

You are what is wrong with this industry. Game is going to be great. If it doesn't sell it talks more about the current states of the video game industry than about the game itself, like all recent previous Platinum Games.

This sales argument does not make the game worse or less fun to be played. Another argument about the game, fair enough, everyone is entitle to their opinions. But this "it will bomb", "it wont sell" does not add anything to a healthy and constructive discussion about the game, if anything it does the exact opposite. And I'm honestly tired of it.

Can we move on, now?

I don't think theres an "if".

Also OP has put a misleading title lol.

 

[jrDev]

First game I buy if I get a WiiU this year...

(Come on Nintendo, make an enticing proposition this holiday season).

 

[Monocle]

This is a discussion board for gaming enthusiasts, that are dedicated to gaming as a major hobby, hence interested in different aspects of the industry and sales happen to be a big, sometimes even crucial part of it. Maybe you should get out of here, if you can't deal with it?

Between the people discussing the game in terms of all the exciting things it's doing and the people mindlessly babbling about how it will bomb, I can tell you who I'd rather hear from.

 

[Gbraga]

Good to hear! I'll have to get it once I finish up on Pikmin.

Also a tad OT, but is it 60fps? I forget.

Of course

 

[Apophis2036]

Does W-101 support the pro controller ?.

 

[shinobi602]

A glowing first review of a game. I am shocked.

 

[Retro_]

Stylistically it is overloaded and scatterbrained. It also doesn't really say much about the game on its own terms, and the incessant Pikmin comparisons require and unnecessary frame of reference while drawing attention and detail to what game the review is really about. Nothing about the mechanics or events described here are really detailed or elaborated on in a way that feels informative.

I agree.

I skimmed through the thing for things I didn't already know about the game and before I realized it I had reached the bottom of the page.

He did describe a segment that hasn't been shown in previews though that sounds amazing. but the article itself is not a really engaging or informative piece overall.

but my bias will celebrate any positive impressions regardless of content.

Sometimes Kamiya gets away with doing the same thing over again TOO much.

Eh?

Who cares when it's supplemental systems to a content packed original and interesting core game?

I mean he's been using the same ranking system in his games since Viewtiful Joe. Who cares when scoring in all of those games is so vastly different with completely different mechanics at work in them.

 

[thefro]

Does W-101 support the pro controller ?.

Yes, and the Wii Classic Controller & Classic Controller Pro

 

[Scum]

The wait is killing me! ;_;

 

[Doc Holliday]

People coming here to say this game wont sell:



You are what is wrong with this industry. Game is going to be great. If it doesn't sell it talks more about the current states of the video game industry than about the game itself, like all recent previous Platinum Games.

This sales argument does not make the game worse or less fun to be played. Another argument about the game, fair enough, everyone is entitle to their opinions. But this "it will bomb", "it wont sell" does not add anything to a healthy and constructive discussion about the game, if anything it does the exact opposite. And I'm honestly tired of it.

Can we move on, now?

These same people will turn around and bitch at publishers for not releasing certain games because they don't think it will sell :/

 

[v1oz]

This review is painful to read. I am astounded that someone was paid to write this.

lol why

 

[Version 3.0]

You are what is wrong with this industry. Game is going to be great. If it doesn't sell it talks more about the current states of the video game industry than about the game itself, like all recent previous Platinum Games.

This sales argument does not make the game worse or less fun to be played. Another argument about the game, fair enough, everyone is entitle to their opinions. But this "it will bomb", "it wont sell" does not add anything to a healthy and constructive discussion about the game, if anything it does the exact opposite. And I'm honestly tired of it.

Can we move on, now?

No. How are we the problem? We will buy it, but it will still bomb. The first step in solving a problem is acknowledging it, and good games bombing is a problem. Ignoring it is not a solution, it just creates a worse problem.

In this case, there's a slightly different problem (potentially), which is that Nintendo could probably get this to sell fairly well if they try, but they won't.

 

[Retro_]

No. How are we the problem? We will buy it, but it will still bomb. The first step in solving a problem is acknowledging it, and good games bombing is a problem. Ignoring it is not a solution, it just creates a worse problem.

In this case, there's a slightly different problem (potentially), which is that Nintendo could probably get this to sell fairly well if they try, but they won't.

It's not our problem though. All we can do is buy the games we want to play and want to see made.

Pointing out that a game will bomb in literally EVERY THREAD about said game accomplishes nothing. It's just a bunch of people looking to say I told you so or something

As the end user we should be talking about our excitement about a game or lack thereof. Not make bullshit sales predictions loosely based on patterns with no knowledge of what a game needs to actually sell over what period of time to be profitable.

 

[ThoughtsOfSpeaking]

Eh?

Who cares when it's supplemental systems to a content packed original and interesting core game?

I mean he's been using the same ranking system in his games since Viewtiful Joe. Who cares when scoring in all of those games is so vastly different with completely different mechanics at work in them.

While this is true, I find it odd that Kamiya can do this and nobody bat an eyelid. Regardless, its still a recycled idea.

 

[zroid]

It may only be 60fps, but it has the feel of 61fps

 

[EloquentM]

Weird how Platinum, not Nintendo, are making the two games that are getting me to grudgingly buy a Wii U

Ummmm the only reason these games exist is because if Nintendo funding?

 

[Apophis2036]

Yes, and the Wii Classic Controller & Classic Controller Pro

Nice, thanks. Already have my pre order in just need to pick up a pro controller now.

 

[EloquentM]

Y you so shady Marc^o^?

 

[Phil4000]

And yet... I'm not interested in the slightest =/

pretty much feel the same...
Would have rather had Viewtiful Joe 3

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Who cares if the game isn't going to sell a lot???

It doesn't affect any of you.

Now the game coming out and supposedly being excellent does.

Liked this game since I first laid eyes on it and nothing is stopping it now.

 

[Retro_]

While this is true, I find it odd that Kamiya can do this and nobody bat an eyelid. Regardless, its still a recycled idea.

I'm of the opinion that "if it ain't broke don't fix it".

Even with reusing alot of the same ideas and tropes across his games, the man has probably one of the most varied and successful portfolios among Japanese game directors. So you gotta ask yourself what are you even really criticizing at that point? Criticizing the guy consistently working on and developing new ideas into something compelling for reusing ideas???

 

[bobbychalkers]

Good to hear! I'll have to get it once I finish up on Pikmin.

Also a tad OT, but is it 60fps? I forget.

I will answer that question with this gif

 

[Yagharek]

A glowing first review of a game. I am shocked.

Perhaps you can post the first bad review if one arrives?

 

[ThoughtsOfSpeaking]

I'm of the opinion that "if it ain't broke don't fix it".

Even with reusing alot of the same ideas and tropes across his games, the man has probably one of the most varied and successful portfolios among Japanese game directors. So you gotta ask yourself what are you even really criticizing at that point? Criticizing the guy consistently working on and developing new ideas into something compelling for reusing ideas???

You have a point there.

Anyway. I have a Wii U and while im not completely sold on this game, I think im gonna pick it up.

 

[jmls1121]

No. How are we the problem? We will buy it, but it will still bomb. The first step in solving a problem is acknowledging it, and good games bombing is a problem. Ignoring it is not a solution, it just creates a worse problem.

In this case, there's a slightly different problem (potentially), which is that Nintendo could probably get this to sell fairly well if they try, but they won't.

I didn't know this was a sales thread, dude.

 

[Retro_]

Anyway. I have a Wii U and while im not completely sold on this game, I think im gonna pick it up.

Sweeeeeet

I remember you being pretty stubborn about not buying if there was no demo so this is a big victory for 101Gaf

 

[Divvy]

I will answer that question with this gif

I think this is the first time I've seen a 60fps gif

Looks great though

 

[Gbraga]

I'm already looking at WiiU prices. Oh god.

 

[The_Lump]

A glowing first review of a game. I am shocked.

(assuming that's sarcasm...)

Does that matter? I mean, sure if it's an exclusive first review then it's usually a bit fishy for obvious reasons. But it's not, it was a leaked review which breached embargo and has since been pulled. I don't see how it being the first review to break cover nullifies its validity? Or did I miss something?

 

[~Kinggi~]

People coming here to say this game wont sell:

You are what is wrong with this industry. Game is going to be great. If it doesn't sell it talks more about the current states of the video game industry than about the game itself, like all recent previous Platinum Games.

Its more reflecting the state of Wii sales. For this to sell gangbusters i imagine it also means getting people to spend hundreds on the console. Im not willing to do that, and i love Platinum games. Unfortunate but down the line if I actually feel compelled to buy the console then ill pick this up.

 

[SanguineShark]

Who cares if the game isn't going to sell a lot???

It doesn't affect any of you.

Now the game coming out and supposedly being excellent does.

Liked this game since I first laid eyes on it and nothing is stopping it now.

I've never cared for this mentality. Why can't we have empathy for the people who make the games we love? Personally I'd like to see their hard work rewarded.

 

[Lee Chaolan]

So hype for this game.

 

[10k]

the alchemy system sounds like that witch crafting thing nobody used in Bayonetta because who fuckin' used items in Bayonetta

Gamers who played on a higher difficulty than Easy Mode

I played on normal and used a shit load of items lol.

 

[Dynamite Ringo Matsuri]

Niceness. I'm a fan of The Guardian, so I can safely conclude that W101 will indeed be dope as fuck

 

[Retro_]

I've never cared for this mentality. Why can't we have empathy for the people who make the games we love? Personally I'd like to see their hard work rewarded.

because going "Bomba 101" in every thread isn't motivated by empathy. It's motivated by either the selfish desire to be right in front of everyone at best or just plain old schadenfreude at worst.

If you really feel that way you'd be supportive and optimistic prior to release, like most of us are. Just get excited about a new game to play

 

[creid]

Link to the review is now dead? Did someone find out about the embargo too late?

 

[thuway]

I just bought a Wii U, and am not a fan of Pikmin. So this is my first killer app .

 

[thefro]

While this is true, I find it odd that Kamiya can do this and nobody bat an eyelid. Regardless, its still a recycled idea.

Even if Kamiya lifted the exact same system from Bayonetta, the originality of the rest of the game would make up for it in spades. Of course, we don't know enough about the alchemy system to judge how it works at this point, just a sentence from a review that broke embargo accidently.

pretty much feel the same...
Would have rather had Viewtiful Joe 3

 

[zroid]

A glowing first review of a game. I am shocked.

I'm sure it's a fantastic game

Spoiler

but I thought the same thing Dammit, games journalism.

 

[SanguineShark]

because going "Bomba 101" in every thread isn't motivated by empathy. It's motivated by either the selfish desire to be right in front of everyone at best or just plain old schadenfreude at worst.

If you really feel that way you'd be supportive and optimistic prior to release, like most of us are. Just get excited about a new game to play

Yeah, I agree. However, I'm not really talking about that type of response. Just found it strange to make a blanket statement directed towards those who care about sales. Not everyone who does is some "Bomba 101" poster.

 

[shinobi602]

Perhaps you can post the first bad review if one arrives?

(assuming that's sarcasm...)

Does that matter? I mean, sure if it's an exclusive first review then it's usually a bit fishy for obvious reasons. But it's not, it was a leaked review which breached embargo and has since been pulled. I don't see how it being the first review to break cover nullifies its validity? Or did I miss something?

I was being sarcastic and showing how dumb posts like mine are when everyone makes them in first reviews of high profile games lol.

 

[Retro_]

Yeah, I agree. However, I'm not really talking about that type of response. Just found it strange to make a blanket statement directed towards those who care about sales. Not everyone who does is some "Bomba 101" poster.

Ah well that's the kind of post he was responding to I think

There's a time and place to care about sales I think,(when we get actual numbers) but right now isn't that time for this game.

 

[The_Lump]

Biggest thing i'm taking from this interview is that TW101 sounds like it uses the GamePad really well, hopefully justifying its integration into the game. Let's hope further reviews corroborate this.

That's pretty much perfect for Nintendo right now: An exclusive, visually impressive game, running very smoothly, gameplay sounds great & makes great use of the gamepad. That's pretty much everything they could hope for from a third party - assuming the rest of the reviews follow suit. I don't think it will shift a tonne of consoles either way, but it would certainly be an attractive game to have in their arsenal going into the latter half of the year - and a big step in the right direction.