I was being sarcastic yes.....
Ms is under pressure due to leaks suggesting yield issues affecting production. Think about it for a while.
Sony hasn't got a credible verified leak suggesting production issues and isn't slashing launch territories pretending they have only just realised that they have to localise the product.
Press get to use debug units because Press need x99 lives to finish game by review deadline, EmptySpace says.
You said it's a PC configured to run PS4 games.So they are not the same hardware. They are not the same motherboard. They are different.
So when does Sony and Microsoft start producing these things in the factory? It seems like Microsoft may have already started? Would this indicate they have more supply than Sony at launch?
So when does Sony and Microsoft start producing these things in the factory? It seems like Microsoft may have already started? Would this indicate they have more supply than Sony at launch?
So both are using dev-kits to show their games...
- Microsoft
Reaction: Oh my god they are having production issues, and the hardware was of a much higher specification. They lied!
- Sony
Reaction: Everything will be fine
You said it's a PC configured to run PS4 games.
So a PC configured to run PS4 games is a PS4 with more memory, given that you can't buy a PC that has the architecture of a PS4, outside of a PS4 and a PS4 devkit.
And launch 360s melted I fail to see how that effects Xbox one or ps4.
And we have a credible leak for production issues for Microsoft?
I'm sorry, but I'll take a confirmed Microsoft employees statement over anyone else.
So when does Sony and Microsoft start producing these things in the factory? It seems like Microsoft may have already started? Would this indicate they have more supply than Sony at launch?
Insomniac said they put their games on a USB and hence play them on devkits. This was well after the PS3 was released, during Resistance 2 in E3.Press gets them for previews of unfinished games. Early alpha/beta code is burned onto a normal retail DVD-R/Blu-ray-R which wouldn't be playable on a retail console.
But IGN is full of Xbox fan boys aren't they? Well that's I feel when I read some of their stories.
They're having production issues because a very trustworthy insider said it and it was confirmed by them after they reduced the launch countries.
Facepalm.
Dude, seriously.
.Just as a side note, it is also possible that the XB1's were devkits:
Retail XB1:
XB1 devkit given to people for promotion purposes:
There is an additional USB-host port on the far right for debugging purposes indicating that it is a devkit. And it's no big deal since the actual hardware is the same. Devkits just add more interfaces (and often more memory for debugging, but that has no effect on game performance). Using a devkit does not imply problems, it's just what devs are using; hence the term "devkit".
Corrected for truthiness.This just in everybody, the Xbox one and ps4 are running onmodifieddated PC hardware!
I would not say I trust MS a whole, but Penello seems legit. coboat does not mean crap to me personally.
And we have a credible leak for production issues for Microsoft?
I'm sorry, but I'll take a confirmed Microsoft employees statement over anyone else.
But you stated something else. I want to have an expansion of what you stated.It's still not a PS4 which is what the IGN have stated.
One of the more annoying things in console wars is the expectations for both companies to somehow have the same approach doing stuff.
Why doesn't Sony have any official GAF-ers dropping infodumps like Albert?
Why doesn't Sony do random info-releases and market more of the consoles?
Why is Sony focusing so much on indies unlike MUH AAA MS?
MS has already announced so many AAA-games, why are Sony still holding back the game announcements from ND, SSM and MM?
Why doesn't Sony also do a pack-in like FIFA?
Why is Sony's PS4 unboxing? MS already did it!
So both are using dev-kits to show their games...
- Microsoft
Reaction: Oh my god they are having production issues, and the hardware was of a much higher specification. They lied!
- Sony
Reaction: Everything will be fine
So they are not the same hardware. They are not the same motherboard. They are different.
The OP is stating that IGN didn't spot any actual PS4's running games. If they using devkit then IGN is correct.
So why would they waste those on a consumer convention, if it was true it'd be better if they used dev kits if it wasn't true they could still have used dev kits and not many would care, the average consumer doesn't care what the games are being played on in this conference as shown by this thread so I doubt it was there main reason for using it.
You didn't even need to state that, we know.
Oh im sorry I didn't know kaveri function based amd processors were already out.Corrected for truthiness.
Knowledge Sprinkles
Ok here's a quick crash course on how game developpement actually works.
We're seeing two different things right now...
That NFS picture is not what he's talking about in the OP's tweet. They are clearly running the PC version of the game with a PS4 controller.
What the OP is talking about is PS4 games running on a devkit instead of a "retail" console.
First of all this is complete bullshit. They are both running games on devkits. The XB1 devkits happens to look exactly like the retail console so the PR guys can say that it's a retail console but it's actually a devkit. The PS4 devkits look different so it's easier to spot. Three months before the console is released is WAYYY too early to run anything on a retail kit.
Second, you guys need to understand what a devkit actually is. The devkits that are in use right now (I'm not talking about the very early devkits but what's in use right now) are pretty much using the same final hardware that will be in the retail kits but with extra memory allocated to debug tools and the ability to run unsigned code.
There's nothing wrong or devious from running games on a devkit. That's how it always been. What did you think the 360/PS3 games were running on at E3 for the last 6 years? They were not retail consoles either, they were devkits since nobody has signed code that can run on a retail console until the game goes through submission...which happens 2-3 weeks before the game is released.
All those tweets and articles are just click bait to create controversy. It's a non story and people really need to move on.
Penello saying the retail is the same as the devkit is bullshit. Here is why.I'm now at this point where I don't even know who is having a laugh and who actually didn't read the even all the posts on twitter that I quoted.
XB1 devkits look like XB1 retail hw. (Source: My interpretation of what Albert Penello means when he says "they are the same.")
PS4 devkits don't look like PS4 retail hw. (Source: leaked images and FCC filing)
According to Scott Lowe, games were shown on PS4 devkits.
So in conclusion: It's XB1 (devkit or retail, how do you determine this) vs. PS4 (devkit)?
Please elaborate on the distinction. According to my understanding a PS4 devkit is a PS4 in a different case with a different firmware and more memory to fit profiling and other debugging tools.
You mean you'll take MS's PR over anyone else, right?
Just as a side note, it is also possible that the XB1's were devkits:
Retail XB1:
XB1 devkit given to people for promotion purposes:
There is an additional USB-host port on the far right for debugging purposes indicating that it is a devkit. And it's no big deal since the actual hardware is the same. Devkits just add more interfaces (and often more memory for debugging, but that has no effect on game performance). Using a devkit does not imply problems, it's just what devs are using; hence the term "devkit".
No it's not. One is a PC devkit configured to run PS4 code. The other is a custom manufactured part which is a PS4. They are not the same hardware.
Indeed good sir, indeed.It's because he looks like a pretentious know it all douche bag. But then you read his articles or listen to his podcast and you realize he really is a pretentious know it all douche bag.
Hey look, another game journo that doesn't have a clue.
You are really trying to make some kind of point here... Are you saying that we should be concerned? Or are you getting into a semantics argument about what is and isn't the "same?"
Ok here's a quick crash course on how game developpement actually works.
We're seeing two different things right now...
That NFS picture is not what he's talking about in the OP's tweet. They are clearly running the PC version of the game with a PS4 controller.
What the OP is talking about is PS4 games running on a devkit instead of a "retail" console.
First of all this is complete bullshit. They are both running games on devkits. The XB1 devkits happens to look exactly like the retail console so the PR guys can say that it's a retail console but it's actually a devkit. The PS4 devkits look different so it's easier to spot. Three months before the console is released is WAYYY too early to run anything on a retail kit.
Second, you guys need to understand what a devkit actually is. The devkits that are in use right now (I'm not talking about the very early devkits but what's in use right now) are pretty much using the same final hardware that will be in the retail kits but with extra memory allocated to debug tools and the ability to run unsigned code.
There's nothing wrong or devious from running games on a devkit. That's how it always been. What did you think the 360/PS3 games were running on at E3 for the last 6 years? They were not retail consoles either, they were devkits since nobody has signed code that can run on a retail console until the game goes through submission...which happens 2-3 weeks before the game is released.
All those tweets and articles are just click bait to create controversy. It's a non story and people really need to move on.
It's worthwhile to mention that both last gen systems had serious issues, and not showing something running in the actual case retail kits will be using is surprising only 3 months out.
"I'm not saying the PS4 is going to overheat. I'm just asking."
FixedDumb thing to be worried about. He just wants Xbox followers.
I've said in an earlier post that my understanding of that quote is that the casing looks extremely similar.Penello saying the retail is the same as the devkit is bullshit. Here is why.