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[TheKayle]

PS4's GPU is 40% (can't remember the exact numbers) more powerful. Thats is not an opinion but a fact of the hardware specs unlike what Albert is saying. Having eSRAM doesn't overcome the disparity between DDR3 and GDDR5

k when this will end up showing nicest things on screen im sure people will agree....right now by the things showed penello COULD have the right

 

[pixlexic]

With regards to physical discs. Over the next 10 years my internet download speed isn't going to improve...the same goes for most consummers. A few people will get lucky with google fiber. Yet optical discs will see major performance enhancements. The new Sony/Panasonic disc format will store more data and have quicker data rates. Having the option for physical discs is a good thing for consummers. There are new potential breakthroughs with optical discs. Researchers set a record storing holograms in graphene. Who knows what might be feasible with that in the future? Same goes for lasers...they are getting more power and cost effcient every year. The future is a blend of physical and digital.

Nicely obfuscated attack on consummers with DRM and the used game market though.

I just like to be able to preload a game before release and not have to go stand inline to buy it. Just come home from work and start playing.

That refutes all of what you said for me personally.

 

[Nymphae]

I know im in the minority, but i like what MS has done lately. Unfortunately, gamers hold grudges and hate MS. But for me, im excited for xbox one and i preordered the day 1 edition today at Wal-Mart.

I "hold a grudge" against MS because their initial offering sucked shit, I don't trust them to put my interests as a gamer and consumer first, and their attitude towards their potential consumers was laughable. 180's are nice but I don't forget that easily. Sure, Sony was the same for a while with the PS3. They won me back by appealing to me as a consumer and gamer over the years. MS can do the same, and it would be very cool if they did.

 

[ThoughtsOfSpeaking]

isnt a porshe significantly more expensive (premium) than a corvette?


The analogy makes no sense.

 

[jim2011]

Listen to what he says and digital is nowhere close to taking over gaming lol. The percentage of players who buy COD or FIFA digitally are in the definite minority.



Oh boy, heres the tired old argument that XB1's policies was like Steam.

From an old thread


MS tried to place DRM on discs and they got destroyed for it.

Seriously? It most definitely was the steam approach (including steam works games). You can't argue the price/sales as it hasn't even come out yet. You could install on unlimited Xbox ones using your account. Yes it doesn't work on other platforms, they are Xbox one games. Not every detail that steam does for pc need apply but it was the same fucking concept. Purely digital games.

As for digital taking over, I think it will. Look at sales of xbla games like state of decay or pc games on steam, the current gen systems just didn't have the marketplace needed to succeed. That includes pricing and release day games.

Edit: I am committed to buying most Xbox one games digitally. I know I'm not alone on that.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

Amen. I hope some of the games make it to Xbone. Everyone deserves to play games. Just like I hope Below comes to other platforms down the line.

Capy already confirmed it's only a timed exclusive.

 

[bj00rn_]

No 400hp Porsche is faster than a 700hp Corvette...that is a ridiculous analogy.

Not every road or track on this planet is straight.

Regardless, it's a moot point as long as Bugatti is around..

 

[Nightengale]

Right, well, when talking about consoles, we're really talking about North America and the UK as the main territories for sales and majority userbase. Consoles have never been a worldwide thing despite being available all over the world outside of the biggest, most important markets. Most of the world uses older consoles when they've been properly launched there and when the prices might be more palatable to that market and not just the middle and upper middle class that buy the majority of those platforms in those countries.

So screw over the 40% assumed poorer, late-adopters just to appease the early-adopting, more financially affluent 60%?

I'm not saying this out of spite, but you're simply making broad assumptions with little understanding of the context of non-US/Europe markets. Of course they're less important, but they are by no means a segment that are negligible.

 

[p3tran]

PS4's GPU is 40% (can't remember the exact numbers) more powerful. Thats is not an opinion but a fact of the hardware specs unlike what Albert is saying. Having eSRAM doesn't overcome the disparity between DDR3 and GDDR5

you are playing with words here. i am very well aware of the differences that exist for both sides.
as I said, what it comes down to is one thing: the games!

if they are not superior -clearly superior- in playstation, I dont give a fuck about specs on paper. if you do, more power to you.

also, this ending generation, we started like "generation cant start until ps3 says so", "heart of graphics", "4d", "xbox 1.5", "cell runs the universe" etc etc. yet anybody that has both systems might have a strongly different opinion than those statements above.


so... bring the games, then we talk!

Uncertainty and Doubt are exactly the emotions he has been trying to elicit in potential customers since his first posts on GAF. The whole point of the analogy was to try and make the hard numbers seem like they aren't meaningful. Without actually lying he is trying to give the impression that it's all still up in the air. But it's not. We know the numbers and we know the architectures and we've heard from developers and we can see there is no way the PS4 doesn't come out on top by a significant margin. He knows that, too, but he doesn't want anyone who might be making a decision to know. He wants them to think it's unclear who is on top. So he keeps spreading fear, uncertainty and doubt. It's a fairly classic "dirty trick" companies with a technology deficit employ. It's also one MS has recently used in their anti-Google ad campaigns.

for you, exactly the same i wrote above.
lets see the games. we will calculate how much more powerful one gaming machine is to the other, based on games.

again, its not FUD. fud would be if we would go out and say: "hey, basically ps4 carries the same tech but in a much-much smaller box, and on top pushed. i dont know about you, but I already have a grill for my burgers and would not like another inside the house, that even remains plugged all the time" or something equally stupid.
on the contrary, he took the sony related questions and answered them with quite a straight face.
its not FUD

 

[Psycho_Mantis]

k when this will end up showing nicest things on screen im sure people will agree....right now by the things showed penello seem have the right

Agree? Lol the only people who don't agree with facts like the PS4's GPU being 40% stronger are delusional fanboys. Whether the hardware advantage shows a significant disparity in visuals between the two systems is anyone's guess and there are tons of variables at play.

 

[test_account]

Steamworks disc games are usually ignored for some reason in all these discussions. It's mostly the same "violation of my consumer rights!" in that case as well, but I guess it's overlooked due to Steam sales.

Which is fine, and I actually agree, but I think that shows that for the vast majority of people, it isn't really a "consumer rights issue", but a pricing/value/convenience one (which of course, where Steam currently is king).

Yeah. For me, its more about the loss of collection value. The physical PC games that require Steam or Origin activasion, those have pretty much zero collection value in my opinion. This would be the same case if such an activation system would be applied to consoles as well.

 

[jond76]

Holy shit! how did I miss this? From Albert Penello not any other person. So He's spreading FUD now and and playing it safe by adding

This is low, really low.

You and the others are letting emotion blind you. You are missing his point. His point was that if MS was in that position, it would be used to slam MS for not being ready, behind, etc.

There's a lot of blind hate for MS, they are pumping out consoles, been showing games running on retail kits, even had a unboxing, buy STILL there's negative talk about yields and short supplies and shit.

Imagine the talk if they hadn't shown any of that. Now look what Sony has shown..... No flak there. Hmmm . It is weird.

I don't feel bad for MS as a whole, because its a corporation, but I feel some sympathy for the people that spent years if their lives making this all just to have temperamental man-babies (and probably some just regular ole babies) on the internet rage shit all over it.

Its petty and childish.

 

[something fishy]

Agree? Lol the only people who don't agree with facts like the PS4's GPU being 40% stronger are delusional fanboys. Whether the hardware advantage shows a significant disparity in visuals between the two systems is anyone's guess and there are tons of variables at play.

The only ones who seem to care as much are equal fanboys.

It's all small margins compared to much more powerful Pc gpu's. I can't see why the excitement over a few frame per second or less effects in the end.

 

[todd44890]

What must you think about Sony's strategy then since they have had their act together for a long while longer and still do so to this day

I never said anything about sony. Their strategy has been awesome. They have hit all the right notes, there's no debating that. I just think the grudge against MS is a little much. They knew they were wrong and changed it.

 

[pixlexic]

Agree? Lol the only people who don't agree with facts like the PS4's GPU being 40% stronger are delusional fanboys. Whether the hardware advantage shows a significant disparity in visuals between the two systems is anyone's guess and there are tons of variables at play.

Isn't it %30 now after the up clock or was it 50 before?

 

[Enordash]

isnt a porshe significantly more expensive (premium) than a corvette?

The analogy makes no sense.

Is this sarcasm? You do realize that an analogy doesn't require you to take into account every detail of the comparison. The focus was horsepower for obvious reasons. Size and price were not part of the analogy.

 

[TheKayle]

Agree? Lol the only people who don't agree with facts like the PS4's GPU being 40% stronger are delusional fanboys. Whether the hardware advantage shows a significant disparity in visuals between the two systems is anyone's guess and there are tons of variables at play.

oh im sure that everyone agree on specs of the things taken 1 by 1..i really dont have of all the thing will work all together on the xb1 ..that seem is built to take advantage of all the components

but again ...consoles are gaming machines...im not going to do 3d modelling and rendering on the ps4 i have a pc for that..and if devs dont show that power difference...(and with this launch lineup they didnt) ....most of people dosnt care and dont know nothing about cu's and raw power

 

[nib95]

Isn't it %30 now after the up clock or was it 50 before?

Before it was 50%. Now it is 41-42% more powerful I believe.

 

[MightyHedgehog]

So screw over the 40% assumed poorer, late-adopters just to appease the early-adopting, more financially affluent 60%?

I'm not saying this out of spite, but you're simply making broad assumptions with little understanding of the context of non-US/Europe markets. Of course they're less important, but they are by no means a segment that are negligible.

No one saying that nor is the it the intention, but the numbers don't lie. That's how the business works. You concentrate on the market who buys your product and expand from there, but the money comes from people willing or able to spend it on your product. Ever wonder why console games are so US/UK/western-oriented when it comes to features and game themes and preferences? It's because the majority of the sales are made there and I'm confident that it's way over 60% of all console unit and software sales. Way more. Yes, that's not fair, but it's reality.

 

[theviolenthero]

Sessler = Major Nelson Jr. .. I see no interviews from Sony or Nintendo ever

So why did "Major Nelson Jr." give Last of Us a perfect score then?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZEs33aWkX2Q


Why did "Major Nelson Jr." rank Journey and Unfinished Swan ahead of Halo 4 on his 2012 game of the year list?
http://www.giantbomb.com/articles/adam-sesslers-top-10-games-of-2012/1100-4485/


Oh, and here's a video that was posted just last week:

How did the PS4 and the Xbox One Do at Gamescom?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9PEwxe0aWRo

Sessler talking about Microsoft:
"they had a lot of work to do but didn't do that much of it"
"they did show games but nothing mind blowing"
"they didn't show strength"

 

[maabus1999]

Agree? Lol the only people who don't agree with facts like the PS4's GPU being 40% stronger are delusional fanboys. Whether the hardware advantage shows a significant disparity in visuals between the two systems is anyone's guess and there are tons of variables at play.

Developer talent will be more noticeable then the hardware difference in the end. And Sony does have some good developers so you should get some good shows. However, for the most part, were looking at what? single digit FPS differences? Maybe a little bit more post processing on PS4 that can really only be seen on still photos?

I look to the games on consoles over hardware. If I want to go hot and heavy on hardware, I go to where my baby always has been: PC realm. And now consoles use X86, here is to PC "ports" being that much better

 

[todd44890]

I "hold a grudge" against MS because their initial offering sucked shit, I don't trust them to put my interests as a gamer and consumer first, and their attitude towards their potential consumers was laughable. 180's are nice but I don't forget that easily. Sure, Sony was the same for a while with the PS3. They won me back by appealing to me as a consumer and gamer over the years. MS can do the same, and it would be very cool if they did.

Thats fine and thats your opinion. However, i think most of the hate MS gets is because its the cool thing to do now. There's really no reasonbto hate them now.

 

[2San]

Seriously? It most definitely was the steam approach (including steam works games). You can't argue the price/sales as it hasn't even come out yet. You could install on unlimited Xbox ones using your account. Yes it doesn't work on other platforms, they are Xbox one games. Not every detail that steam does for pc need apply but it was the same fucking concept. Purely digital games.

It wasn't the steam approach. Steam didn't have the 24 hour check in stuff. Nothing that retailers listed pointed to cheaper prices of games. On the xbox 360 they couldn't offer cheaper prices, because physical retailers pressured platform holders/publisher from doing sales. The pressure is still there for the X1. If the X1 went full digital then might have been able to offer steam amount of sales. Another factor is that, steam gets competition from other services. So even if Steam would suddenly not offer good sales, there would be alternatives. No such thing would be present on the X1.

I'm open to a pure digital console, but MS tried to please to many people and ended with a wreck. Soul creator made a nice post about it:

Steam also doesn't support resale of disc-based Steamworks games. That was likely the only reason for the 24 hour check in, since if it was 100% digital downloads, or discs with no resale capability, no check-in would be needed (like every other digital service, including Microsoft's digital games on Xbox 360). Microsoft's problem was that they tried to still support the Gamestop disc trade-in audience, while also supporting the "you can play games without the disc inside" functionality. A textbook example of trying to please everyone, but ending up just pissing off everybody.

 

[Impeccable]

but again ...consoles are gaming machines...im not going to do 3d modelling and rendering on the ps4 i have a pc for that..and if devs dont show that power difference...(and with this launch lineup they didnt) ....most of people dosnt care and dont know nothing about cu's and raw power

Have you paid any attention to InFamous: Second Son at all? It's launch window.

 

[Brad Grenz]

You and the others are letting emotion blind you. You are missing his point. His point was that if MS was in that position, it would be used to slam MS for not being ready, behind, etc.

It was FUD. And he knew it when he said it.

The reason no one is concerned about PS4 is because Sony have been so forthright and honest in presenting their next generation system. Meanwhile, MS was duplicitous, evasive, scattered, unprepared, unresponsive, arrogant and secretive. The skepticism they are being shown is well earned, the same way Sony has earned a lot of trust.

In any case Albert knew what he was saying was a gross misrepresentation and he did it for a reason, both to try and garner sympathy, and to cast doubt on Sony's readiness.

 

[Deadstar]

This was an excellent interview and easily the best I've seen regarding the Xbox One. This is night and day vs the interview with Mattrick where he says go buy a 360 if you don't like the Xbox One.

 

[bj00rn_]

I'm not trying to start anything but DRM on disc is what we have now with Sony and MS. What did you mean by this?

It seems like some people actually believe that they are going to buy DRM-free boxes this gen.. LOL

 

[Horp]

I don't understand why this thread is so much about Adam Sessler..

Regarding the actual interview:
I liked the way Albert handled the questions; much better than most MS PR-people I've seen lately. But even hearing it from him, I'm not getting it. I'm not excited about the Xbox One, and every time in gaming history a hardware developer that heavily downplays the differences in terms of performance, it usually means they are really behind in terms of performance. "I don't see a difference in the games". "It's all about the experience". Yada yada, you're not winning me over with that.

 

[TheKayle]

Have you paid any attention to InFamous: Second Son at all? It's launch window.

yes and is a very very nice game..but.i liked more the graphics of the division (and i think r better done) as open word game ..imagine...

so pls dont take that as example of a game that should show the hw differences.....lol

 

[p3tran]

It was FUD. And he knew it when he said it.

The reason no one is concerned about PS4 is because Sony have been so forthright and honest in presenting their next generation system. Meanwhile, MS was duplicitous, evasive, scattered, unprepared, unresponsive, arrogant and secretive. The skepticism they are being shown is well earned, the same way Sony has earned a lot of trust.

so, since you are such a good critic, please tell me your thoughts about previous gen and how sony and microsoft try to sell their stuff....
how was "trustworthy sony" for you last launch?

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Agree? Lol the only people who don't agree with facts like the PS4's GPU being 40% stronger are delusional fanboys. Whether the hardware advantage shows a significant disparity in visuals between the two systems is anyone's guess and there are tons of variables at play.

Too funny lol

 

[TylerDurden4321]

I know it's still just promotion, but it felt way more honest than what MS had put out there so far. I know, not too hard, but the guy knew his audience, knew his product and I choose to believe him, when he's saying that he doesn't see a difference in graphics and that the eSRAM has certain advantages is some applications over what the PS4 has. You know what? I'm even buying some of his Kinect enthusiasm, when he's saying that the hardware can do great things ...that Adam didn't intervene by saying "but there's no cool games for kinect" is not Penello's fault. I wish MS would put more guys like him infront of the camera, who don't think they can oversimplify and twist things at least not to the ridiculous degrees shown in may and june.

Count to that the "every xbox one = devkit" and "kinect may be unplugged" steps and I'd say Microsoft might find the road again some time in the future.

 

[McHuj]

Isn't it %30 now after the up clock or was it 50 before?

About 40%. If performance scaled perfectly, with flops, then we would perhaps see something like a 30fps game on X1 and a PS4 game running at ~40fps. But scaling is never linear, only for the simplest of task. The difference isn't big enough to have one platform run at 30 fps while the other runs at 60fps (or 720p vs 1080p). Or it just might manifest itself in different forms of AA.

As far as I'm aware, a good portion of the game runs on the CPU and since both are nearly identical, that in itself will be a big limiter on performance.

 

[nib95]

so, since you are such a good critic, please tell me your thoughts about previous gen and how sony and microsoft try to sell their stuff....
how was "trustworthy sony" for you last launch?

But this is a new generation. And Sony did pretty well to rectify many of their mistakes not only with the PS4, but also with the PS3, which has had big improvements, offerings and great releases even late in to it's life today.

 

[Parch]

Good interview.
Sessler hit on a lot of the legit criticisms while remaining professional.
Albert not only admitted to the mistakes but addressed the concerns directly.

It's nice to hear from an actual hardware engineer instead of some suit mouthpiece. It's nice to see tech questions answered instead of PR fluff. Microsoft made mistakes they're willing to admit to and are providing the people who can clarify not only the tech issues but the public concerns.

It doesn't rectify some of the concerns, but at least they're being honest about it.

 

[pr0cs]

Have you paid any attention to InFamous: Second Son at all? It's launch window.

Is this the new "have you seen Titanfall?" meme

 

[The Flash]

Albert Penello, the new Xbox Messiah

Spoiler

Don't take this post seriously, it's just for fun.

 

[bj00rn_]

so, since you are such a good critic, please tell me your thoughts about previous gen and how sony and microsoft try to sell their stuff....
how was "trustworthy sony" for you last launch?

Are you aware that you are asking nib this question..? You do know who he is, no..?


Anyway, MS should make Albert "president of Xbox" (LOL), it's obvious he should've run everything as a one-man show from the start.

 

[SegaShack]

I know im in the minority, but i like what MS has done lately. Unfortunately, gamers hold grudges and hate MS. But for me, im excited for xbox one and i preordered the day 1 edition today at Wal-Mart.

I'm in the same boat, I love the XB1 and the controller, games, and User Experience have me especially excited. I don't understand the grudges, first gamers want Microsoft to change their policies, and a week and a half after E3 they did so. I've mentioned this on NeoGaf before but Sony actually released their online passes with all their 1st and 2nd Party offerings for 2 years straight (DRM), and a PSN store only version of the PSP (DRM, no used market), despite the complaints beforehand. Microsoft has never even released a product with the old policies yet people hate on them.

Neogaf used to be a very great place to discuss the next gen systems but now you get tons of people who are so angry with Microsoft (for something that never even came to fruition) that they feel the need to go into Xbox threads and make jokes and trash the system and company. There is absolutely nothing wrong with criticism and fair discussion, but off topic unfounded claims of paid shills is just a waste of everyone's time.

I'll be playing Killer Instinct and Crimson Dragon come the 22nd and will be having a blast. Hope PS4 owners have fun with their consoles too.

 

[sleeprockss]

I don't understand why this thread is so much about Adam Sessler..

Regarding the actual interview:
I liked the way Albert handled the questions; much better than most MS PR-people I've seen lately. But even hearing it from him, I'm not getting it. I'm not excited about the Xbox One, and every time in gaming history a hardware developer that heavily downplays the differences in terms of performance, it usually means they are really behind in terms of performance. "I don't see a difference in the games". "It's all about the experience". Yada yada, you're not winning me over with that.

I don't understand why this thread is almost completely about Sessler either. I guess some people think he has a bias towards Microsoft now because he isn't acting like the Xbox One is the devil.

 

[p3tran]

But this is a new generation. And Sony did pretty well to rectify many of their mistakes not only with the PS4, but also with the PS3, which has had big improvements, offerings and great releases even late in to it's life today.

come on man! "trustworthy sony" my ass!!
I was here last gen, and you where too.
I know there are a lot of people in here that do not wear this stupid fanboy glasses. its just that I am getting a little bored of reading this shit! not your comment, but the general sony=saint bullshit!

 

[derFeef]

SOmetimes I can't believe what I am reading lately, it makes me a bit sad.

OT: Said it before, Albert should talk more often, good answers too.

 

[maabus1999]

But this is a new generation. And Sony did pretty well to rectify many of their mistakes not only with the PS4, but also with the PS3, which has had big improvements, offerings and great releases even late in to it's life today.

Do you believe MSFT is adapting faster then Sony did with the PS3 mistakes?

 

[Deus Ex Machina]

"How is it that a 400 HP Porsche can be faster than a 700 HP Corvette?"

Shots fired!!!

 

[maplelord93]

Great interview made some good points. However my problem with the Xbox One features, more particular, is its something that is kind of redundant when you see the way games are being made. For example, system level things like game switching is probably the coolest thing.

Kinect recognizing my voice.. Cool but it's so limited in speech and doesn't feel natural. I absolutely hate voice recognition software that has designated voice commands that you have to say in order for it to respond. It's my biggest beef with that software. Saying "Xbox On or OK, Xbox" is ugly and cheesy. Work on making that a natural response.

As for everything else, it's fluffy but unneeded also kind of hypocritical. This is the company that is betting heavily on "online" infrastructure and having something like hand to hand switching is also redundant in a sense. Yes it's a cool option but I really don't like when they tote it as this must have feature that they aren't even concerned about in the first place. They want you to play online, not play couch to couch.

Either way, they weren't trying to be like Steam but wanted to be like Apple. They want to control the marketplace and tell people where to go and that's not how gaming in a sense work. It's gives off this impression that customers are no longer in control and publishers and manufactures who are only suppose to make the system appeal to us are also dipping their fingers in to run us as well. I didn't like that with the initial Xbox reveal and obviously from what he is saying, that isn't off the table. I hate to agree that at some point we will be in that same line of speech however there's a better way and I feel I'm not going to see that from MS.

i think they said later down the line, they wanted something like siri

 

[Godslay]

Albert Penello, the new Xbox Messiah

Spoiler

Don't take this post seriously, it's just for fun.

I think this is hands down, the worst photoshop I've ever seen. It's hilariously bad. Good job. LOL. I like it actually, had to clarify.

 

[Nightengale]

Do you believe MSFT is adapting faster then Sony did with the PS3 mistakes?

Sony's problem with PS3 was Cell and BD Drive.

Colour me curious how any of those mistakes could've been solved by adapting?

 

[maabus1999]

I'm in the same boat, I love the XB1 and the controller, games, and User Experience have me especially excited. I don't understand the grudges, first gamers want Microsoft to change their policies, and a week and a half after E3 they did so. I've mentioned this on NeoGaf before but Sony actually released their online passes with all their 1st and 2nd Party offerings for 2 years straight (DRM), and a PSN store only version of the PSP (DRM, no used market), despite the complaints beforehand. Microsoft has never even released a product with the old policies yet people hate on them.

Neogaf used to be a very great place to discuss the next gen systems but now you get tons of people who are so angry with Microsoft (for something that never even came to fruition) that they feel the need to go into Xbox threads and make jokes and trash the system and company. There is absolutely nothing wrong with criticism and fair discussion, but off topic unfounded claims of paid shills is just a waste of everyone's time.

I'll be playing Killer Instinct and Crimson Dragon come the 22nd and will be having a blast. Hope PS4 owners have fun with their consoles too.

If you corralled the top 20 or so "pro Sony" or "pro Xbox" folks out of threads like this, you would get the discussion you are looking for. Just a very noticeable group on both sides that make things messy.

 

[Chobel]

You and the others are letting emotion blind you. You are missing his point. His point was that if MS was in that position, it would be used to slam MS for not being ready, behind, etc.

There's a lot of blind hate for MS, they are pumping out consoles, been showing games running on retail kits, even had a unboxing, buy STILL there's negative talk about yields and short supplies and shit.

Imagine the talk if they hadn't shown any of that. Now look what Sony has shown..... No flak there. Hmmm . It is weird.

He can got his point without shitting on the other console.
MS did a big mistake by introducing that DRM plan, So of course there will consequences, they need to work harder because they fucked up not Sony.

I don't feel bad for MS as a whole, because its a corporation, but I feel some sympathy for the people that spent years if their lives making this all just to have temperamental man-babies (and probably some just regular ole babies) on the internet rage shit all over it.

Its petty and childish.

Oh God, he's spreading bullshit and when I get him doing that, I'm childish and petty.
Stop with the bullshit. Albert is making a fuss about nothing

Things that the other guys are getting away with is mind-boggling to me."

When pressed, he brought up one example from the coverage of Sony and the PS4 that he found particularly galling. "I only give this as an example because if this was us it would be the biggest news on the planet: no one has seen their box. No one has actually seen the insides of that box, no one has seen a piece of code running on their box. [Dev kits] are not the retail unit. The form factor they've shown—we showed the inside of our box, the inside of our unit back at E3. Everything you're seeing here is running off production code, except for the games that are still running on PC.

So mind boggling

 

[maabus1999]

Sony's problem with PS3 was Cell and BD Drive.

Colour me curious how any of those mistakes could've been solved by adapting?

Why are you asking me? I'm quoting the guy who said Sony rectified their mistakes for the PS3.

Go ask him. My statement was sorta a catch 22.

Oh and I bought the PS3 first cause of the Blu-ray