SolsticeZero
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Quite honestly, for the average gamer, there isn't going to be much of a difference. Don't get me wrong, I love my Vita with all it's OLED goodness, but most people won't even notice.
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New PS Vita LCD screen 'not inferior to OLED', insists Sony
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FreddieQuell
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So let's just call him a liar because we've seen two "comparison" screenshots. At least wait until there's a trustworthy review/comparison out there.
Oh my goodness. Now that is priceless. I like the bit about the OLED screen being the centerpiece of the PS Vita. Well bye bye centerpiece lol.
PoweredBySoy
Banned
Just... different.
New Vita screen looks more than good. Only "glorious OLED master race" will notice any differences, general population wont.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QeHziydv4g&hd=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1QeHziydv4g&hd=1
Blue Submarine No. 6
Member
I'm reserving judgement until I can see the new screen for myself. I doubt there's a dramatic difference in IQ, unless Sony chose to really cheap-out on the LCD in the new version. My biggest concern would be with motion blur, but though I love my FEB Vita's OLED screen, I'm no less happy with the screen on my iPhone, and even the 3DSXL's screen doesn't make my eyes bleed when I'm playing SMTIV, so maybe in the end it won't really matter to Joe Consumer and it will still come down to the games...
Well, judging from some reactions, at least they did an excellent job convincing people OLED really is the centerpiece of the PS Vita.
Wishmaster92
Member
Here's another image, which is totally representative of the quality of the new screen. You should base 100% of your purchasing decision on this:
That is called viewing angle, something lcd's are notoriously bad for.
LCD
VS
OLED
Look at how oled tv's retain the same color/brightness under extreme viewing angles....
This shot needs to die. How do we know the game isn't rendering different hue at different time while at title screen.
AtomskEater
Member
I'm liking the new model more and more, actually. The ROA screen is the only one that makes the image quality look like shit, the other pictures and videos make it look pretty comparable.
Yeah, this seems like one of those times when the only people who really care are going to be gaming enthusiasts who post on forums. The average consumer (and those of us with infidel eyes) won't really care or notice.
Yeah, this seems like one of those times when the only people who really care are going to be gaming enthusiasts who post on forums. The average consumer (and those of us with infidel eyes) won't really care or notice.
I wouldn't expect them to suggest otherwise, but they're full of shit. LCDs have their own qualities, I suppose, but they cannot match the strengths of OLED. The very nature of how LCDs are built and function would prevent this statement from ever holding true.
...and how exactly are you viewing these photos? You cannot judge the quality of the screens from photos due to both the camera used to snap the photo and the screen being used to view the photos. The advantage of OLED cannot be made visible on an LCD monitor, for instance.
IPS panels are LCD too.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
There's no doubt that LCD is going to be worse but I don't see the huge uproar about the quality. I enjoyed the hell out of PSP and the Vita is a higher resolution. I think any picture is going to basically make the OLED Vita look better. I don't intend to get the new one now but I won't be upset if the day comes that I end up getting this newer Vita.
Mammoth Jones
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This is how I feel. I love my vitas screen and I love my iphone 5 screen.
cebri.one
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This, no info about what type of LCD is.
SolarPowered
Member
No need to make stuff up, Sony. Vita was over the top anyways. It's gotta get cheaper somehow.
AtomskEater
Member
I'm using the metric that my eyes did not bleed and roll from my sockets, obviously.
Look, I just don't think it's as big a deal as people are making it out to be. We'll see whenever these start popping up in stores, I guess.
I understand that if you have many viewers the angle might become an issue for home cinema but seriously, why would anyone look on a vita screen from such an extreme angle? OLED tech is superior, no doubt but in the end its the result that matters. A good LCD is capable to match the OLEDs performance most of the time.
OverBlood 3
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I like how people are basing the image quality of something that has been photographed under less than ideal conditions then compressed, then uploaded to the internet, then viewed on varying degrees of screen quality.
Wait until it's out.
Wait until it's out.
Are the screen dimensions on the LCD one bigger than the OLED?
Prophet Steve
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Ugh, do not rehash this into another comparison thread with those shots. The shots are crap and you cannot see the same difference as that you can see with your own eyes. Wait for a good impression or until you tried it yourself.
No, it is not, just looks like it because of the photo.
No, it is not, just looks like it because of the photo.
blurredvision
Member
Don't need a screenshot, just experience. It was bullshit when Apple claimed their fancy retina LCD was better than OLED and it's bullshit now when Sony claims it.
OLED costs more and looks better. Using LCD means you want to save some money, that's it.
Oh, and you're not alone. The masses continue to purchase LCD TVs in droves despite the fact that the technology is out of date. The high sales numbers and low manufacturing costs combined with failure of high-end displays in the marketplace have all contributed to the death of display innovation. People are OK with LCDs.
For those of us who are not (such as myself), it really really sucks. I hate using LCDs for anything outside of work or internet browsing. For media consumption and gaming they are the worst possible option available today.
Ludicrous Speed
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Maybe I should buy a Vita now before the new model rolls out. Maybe it'll be like the OG PS3 that would sell for quite a bit on ebay because of its superiority to the later models.
It's not quite the same in this case.
The iPhone uses an IPS panel with some of the most accurate color reproduction around. It's very good and I prefer it over AMOLED for phones.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
I would. It's the best screen available for Vita. I don't have a problem buying a second one if I have to even if it's this new screen. I don't think I had any glaring issues with PSP and that was lower resolution.
Do it! Its a fantastic screen and the design of the OG Vita is superior.
Once you drop below a certain brightness threshold the accuracy goes out the toilet due to poor black levels. That's the problem (along with poor motion resolution).
The iPhone screen is not as well suited towards gaming.
I don't disagree. My preference for IPS is towards phones or work monitors.
MaximusPayne
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I want to say that may be a power save feature like every other screen on the market.
Whiteshirt
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That is called viewing angle, something lcd's are notoriously bad for.
LCD
Look at how oled tv's retain the same color/brightness under extreme viewing angles....
That's such a terrible comparison.
That's an old S-PVA monitor from goddamn April 2008. We're talking about more than 5 years old - a millennium in technology years.
This is what a modern IPS monitor (Asus ProArt) has in terms of viewing angles:
Is LCD worse than OLED? Yes, it is worse in terms of black depth and motion performance. How much worse? Probably not enough for most people to care. If Sony has implemented wide gamut backlighting (aka that Tri-Luminous buzzword), it will have similar colour saturation as OLED.
Looking at the video some guy took at Bic Photo, its not the end of the world like some people are proclaiming it to be.
Edit:
You're being even more disingenuous since that's from a Samsung 2493HM. That's a TN monitor (so even worse than S-PVA) released in 2007.
LiquidMetal14
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OverBlood 3
Banned
So tempting to quote your username
I'm not saying it's as good or better it probably is inferior I'm just saying what people have shown as examples of a bad screen is ridiculous it's not a fair comparison nor is it probably accurate. You must agree.
Mundharmonika
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Please don't backpedal now fellow Vitabros,it doesn't shine a good light on us
A LCD screen can never match the OLED quality of the original Vita.
Yes it's not as bad as some say and still a good quality LCD but the differences are undeniable.
A LCD screen can never match the OLED quality of the original Vita.
Yes it's not as bad as some say and still a good quality LCD but the differences are undeniable.
So you believe everything PR says? Assuming the picture quality actually isn't better than the OLED, what do you honestly expect PR to say?
Triggerhappytel
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What screens? The one of Ragnarok Odyssey where the OLED version looked better and the one where Uncharted looked practically the same? They didn't prove anything. Paticularly because we don't know if the brightness settings were the same.
I'm not saying there won't be a difference, but suggesting those screens are conclusive proof is just stupid.
toastyToast
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TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
This is a funny one, people said in the other thread that the New LCD had a green tint and faded blacks, but it the otherway around, I expect the OLED to have better colour but that LCD looks really good.Another comparison:
So many factors go into taking a photo of a screen.
exposure, angle, white balance...and so on.
I'm not sure anything is all that representative unless the photographer knows what they are doing and aren't just auto-moding everything.
Point in note - the above PSP is at a slight angle - as you can tell from the glare coming off the screen. This causes a decrease in the contrast as you're seeing a lot of light reflection.
exposure, angle, white balance...and so on.
I'm not sure anything is all that representative unless the photographer knows what they are doing and aren't just auto-moding everything.
Point in note - the above PSP is at a slight angle - as you can tell from the glare coming off the screen. This causes a decrease in the contrast as you're seeing a lot of light reflection.