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PS4 UI 16 minute video

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Gotta agree, XBO UI looks much better than this. Hopefully they're working on something more elegant that's just as light on system resources, but the UI isn't really a major issue that'll make or break a system just yet. There's time for improvement on that after launch.
 
The person narrating that video is mad ignorant. And funny him complaining about the French, he sort of sounds like a stereotypical American with a thick French accent.
 
Kotaku updated their story indicating that Sony PR said the footage is "from a debug unit that is not at all representative of the final consumer experience". I'm sure there's some aspects from that video that will be in the final version but I personally am not taking any leaked UI stuff seriously. I'll wait for some official footage or until I actually have my PS4 which at this rate, it seems like the latter is more likely.

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This is exactly what Microsoft said and then when we start getting some official videos, the parts we have already seen from leaks all look the exact same. I'm sure there are plenty of little tweaks but what is showing in that video is likely largely what we're getting.
 
Gotta agree, XBO UI looks much better than this. Hopefully they're working on something more elegant that's just as light on system resources, but the UI isn't really a major issue that'll make or break a system just yet. There's time for improvement on that after launch.

Good thing that's not the main UI and is just the social area...

You can't compare the main interface of one to just one segment of another. The official videos from Sony and authorized hands on videos will give us the full scoop.
 
Reserving judgment until the official UI demo Sony promised us we'd get closer to launch.

This looks like a slightly neutered devkit, it's poor video quality (the repost), and in French. I think it's too early to be condemning it, especially while ms has been showing metro openly for a while now.

Dude, it comes out in less than 30 days. I think anything we see is going to be pretty close to what we get at launch. I would assume manufacturing is starting and the OS is being installed to drives. Including shipments, it still needs to travel for about a week to get where they are launching and still get to stores a few days early for presentation and stock. That makes it less than 20 days out.

I would assume the final OS is probably already on the HDD and what we're seeing is very close to final sans day 1 updates. Even 'debug units' will be pretty close to final.
 

kyser73

Member
Same.

I started digging the XMB a lot more when I got my hands on an Uncharted theme so hopefully that helps on PS4, but honestly it's still pretty boring to navigate on PS3 and it took me a while to discover little features on the console because it didn't feel like there was any incentive to explore it. It's basically just a tool rather than an additional experience that gives the console some character. I get that plenty of people are satisfied with it just being a navigation tool and that's fine, but when I'm being told that "Greatness Awaits" I'd kind of like to see a little more thought being put into the entire experience, not just the stunning games. I want to be blown away from start to finish. From what they've shown so far it's just kind of bland and makes me want to load up a game right away instead of checking things out.

'I've just eaten the best meal ever, but the cutlery was shite.'

That's what you're saying here.
 

UNCMark

Banned
'I've just eaten the best meal ever, but the cutlery was shite.'

That's what you're saying here.

You don't think people would notice if fancy restaurants served their food on paper plates, and gave you plastic forks and knives to eat it with? Doesn't mean the food isn't great.
 
'I've just eaten the best meal ever, but the cutlery was shite.'

That's what you're saying here.

Nah, I expect to be visually stimulated. I see where he's coming from. Everybody likes to make their phones, PC's, tablets their own and to have a little flair. This is a basic expectation of electronics these days.

You don't think people would notice if fancy restaurants served their food on paper plates, and gave you plastic forks and knives to eat it with? Doesn't mean the food isn't great.

Ha, better way to put it. It's all about the whole experience.
 

FuuRe

Member
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God damn is he annoying, please can someone upload the original video elsewhere?
 

Router

Hopsiah the Kanga-Jew
Fucking hell it's such a mess. I have lost all faith in Sony to be able to deliver a decent UI. First Vitas bubble nonsense and now this social media crap.

They got everything else so right.
 

darilaho

Banned
what an annoying asshole

plus why is he playing this shitty music over the vid, some of your viewer might speak the language9raises hand) and actually post info
Totally agree
Why he simply upload with the french voices, there are many people that can translate and upload again with the translation.

But not he had to put shitting rock music(and i like in general rock music), and fuck everyone with he comments and he bad editing Dx

But if you mute the video and play this instead the video looks funny xD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODQtHbO8Lnw
 

kyser73

Member
Nah, I expect to be visually stimulated. I see where he's coming from. Everybody likes to make their phones, PC's, tablets their own and to have a little flair. This is a basic expectation of electronics these days.



Ha, better way to put it. It's all about the whole experience.

I'm a form follow function person - I don't like excessive decoration, and twinkly things in a UI just screams 'novelty'.I find them intrusive, distracting and pretty soon after that, annoying. It's one of the reasons I like XMB as it is - it's simple, direct and logical.

UNCMark said:
You don't think people would notice if fancy restaurants served their food on paper plates, and gave you plastic forks and knives to eat it with? Doesn't mean the food isn't great.

No, but by the same mark I wouldn't mark them down for using plain, functional dinner plates & cutlery over something more flowery.
 

UNCMark

Banned
I'm a form follow function person - I don't like excessive decoration, and twinkly things in a UI just screams 'novelty'.I find them intrusive, distracting and pretty soon after that, annoying. It's one of the reasons I like XMB as it is - it's simple, direct and logical.



No, but by the same mark I wouldn't mark them down for using plain, functional dinner plates & cutlery over something more flowery.

You wouldn't, but others would. It's why "plating" is a review category.
 
Dude, it comes out in less than 30 days. I think anything we see is going to be pretty close to what we get at launch. I would assume manufacturing is starting and the OS is being installed to drives. Including shipments, it still needs to travel for about a week to get where they are launching and still get to stores a few days early for presentation and stock. That makes it less than 20 days out.

I would assume the final OS is probably already on the HDD and what we're seeing is very close to final sans day 1 updates. Even 'debug units' will be pretty close to final.

Sony said it's a debug unit and not final.

Devkits and debug kits don't typically get all the bells and whistles nor do they get upgraded on the same schedule and path as the consumer devices. We have no idea when the last time that kit right there was updated, so for all we know we're critiquing a months old build.

Yes, it IS, too early to shit on it. Wait for official videos and hands on of a CONSUMER PS4.
 

kyser73

Member
You wouldn't, but others would. It's why "plating" is a review category.

I need to know what wesbite/restaurant guide includes plating in a review.

Actually, no I don't. Anyone who thinks they can put a numerical value of any kind on eating out isn't worth reading.
 
Good thing that's not the main UI and is just the social area...

You can't compare the main interface of one to just one segment of another. The official videos from Sony and authorized hands on videos will give us the full scoop.
My bad; I thought that was from the main user interface on PS4. I thought it was kinda weird for a sec' it'd be the main hub.
 

ckohler

Member
That looks more like Ubisoft's client then PS4. UPlay takes over the game before you play perhaps?

Yes, that's the Game's UI. However, the keyboard that pops up is the PS4's OS keyboard.

I just wish he would have pressed R3 and tried using the touchpad to type.
 

VanWinkle

Member
I can't wait to see the UI in a finished form. This looks like an early debug thing. It's not really fair to base your opinion on the UI from this.
 

UNCMark

Banned
At least they've made it fast. It really looks like Sony has no design philosophy here. Looks like a drag to navigate through.

Different philosophies at work. Take the 360 vs PS3. Microsoft spends a lot of time, money and effort to make their UI better than Sony's. And it shows, it is better. Why? They want you to spend time in it because they're selling ad space. They merged the store into the UI so that you're constantly being sold to. If their UI was plain and boring like Sony's with a separate store that took forever to load and navigate, you'd spend less time in consumer-mode. Sony's philosophy is to get you from the On button to the game as quickly as possible. When I'm in gamer mode, I prefer Sony's method. When I'm in consumer mode and want to see what's new etc I prefer Microsoft's approach. Ideally for me Microsoft's approach is better, but they ultimately ruin the experience by polluting the UI with fast food, cellphone etc commercials.
 
Different philosophies at work. Take the 360 vs PS3. Microsoft spends a lot of time, money and effort to make their UI better than Sony's. And it shows, it is better. Why? They want you to spend time in it because they're selling ad space. They merged the store into the UI so that you're constantly being sold to. If their UI was plain and boring like Sony's with a separate store that took forever to load and navigate, you'd spend less time in consumer-mode. Sony's philosophy is to get you from the On button to the game as quickly as possible. When I'm in gamer mode, I prefer Sony's method. When I'm in consumer mode and want to see what's new etc I prefer Microsoft's approach. Ideally for me Microsoft's approach is better, but they ultimately ruin the experience by polluting the UI with fast food, cellphone etc commercials.

Good points.

I'd still prefer the better UI though. If it means overlooking ads then so be it. I can still boot a game instantly on 360 even with it's more elaborate UI. Give me the better brand integration and cool transitions. Shouldn't they be pimping stuff on PS+? Hit me with ads for games and other things to spend my money on but do it in a way that'll entice me to do it.

I just wish Sony would've done something with it instead of the static blue background. Give us some cool transitions utilizing the shapes pattern and ribbon. I want to see the graphics on the console packaging in motion. It doesn't have to be some crazy 3 second long animation, just something subtle and sleek that gives me the impression that they wanted to make the entire experience enjoyable as soon as I turn on the system.

It just sucks seeing the potential go to waste.
 
I'm tired of these shitty quality videos. Shouldn't we have official walkthroughs of each console maker available on their blogs, stores, social media pages, etc by now? We're one month away from launch.
 
Video was awful but i like the UI. You can tell it's designed with Dynamic themes in mind which is great. My only complaint is the main XMB doesn't look organized. There really needs to be a Game folder.
 

lantus

Member
Gotta agree, XBO UI looks much better than this. Hopefully they're working on something more elegant that's just as light on system resources, but the UI isn't really a major issue that'll make or break a system just yet. There's time for improvement on that after launch.

That screen is basically PS4's version of the trending section like on Xbone.
 

Goku

Banned
I'll gladly take the PS4's inelegant yet functional UI over the pretty, ad infested mess on the Xbox.

You must be suffering from a traumatising issue that burned advertisements in your retina. I can't think of any other reason you would see ads in the videos of the Xbox One UI, because there weren't any.

Edit: Don't mean to insult you with that first sentence, just trying to be funny here :(
 

xxracerxx

Don't worry, I'll vouch for them.
You must be suffering from a traumatising issue that burned advertisements in your retina. I can't think of any other reason you would see ads in the videos of the Xbox One UI, because there weren't any.

Are you one of those people that think the "Recommended" section of the front page of the XBO is not a section for Ads??
 
I'll gladly take the PS4's inelegant yet functional UI over the pretty, ad infested mess on the Xbox.

Do those things have to go hand in hand though? Why do we have to settle when there's really no reason we can't have a great looking, yet functional, UI without ads.
 

Krakn3Dfx

Member
I just wish Sony would've done something with it instead of the static blue background. Give us some cool transitions utilizing the shapes pattern and ribbon. I want to see the graphics on the console packaging in motion. It doesn't have to be some crazy 3 second long animation, just something subtle and sleek that gives me the impression that they wanted to make the entire experience enjoyable as soon as I turn on the system.

It just sucks seeing the potential go to waste.

Assuming that this is the only choice you'll have for a background is being kind of ignorant. Of course you'll be able to change to different backgrounds/themes on the final system. This is a dev kit, it's missing a lot of the bells and whistles the final product will allow for and have.
 

Skilletor

Member
I much prefer the minimalistic ps4 (and ps3) UI that will allow me to use my own themes and wallpapers without being covered up by icons. I like that any recommendations or ads will be in a screen or section that I can avoid.
 

Goku

Banned
Are you one of those people that think the "Recommended" section of the front page of the XBO is not a section for Ads??

Shame on Microsoft for recommending me games based on the games I own and play a lot!

To answer your questions, yes I am one of those people. Speaking of the recommended thing, I've actually bought some titles on Xbox 360 I've never heard of thanks to the recommended tile. No regrets there.
 
Assuming that this is the only choice you'll have for a background is being kind of ignorant. Of course you'll be able to change to different backgrounds/themes on the final system. This is a dev kit, it's missing a lot of the bells and whistles the final product will allow for and have.

I'm not really talking about the background. I'm talking about how everything flows and transitions. Changing the wallpaper on my iPhone doesn't make the screen transitions and icons move or interact any differently. Yes, a different background theme will help it look less static but the basic gradient background is the least of my problems with it. Hell, the XB1 UI is just solid colors. That's even more basic than a blue gradient and ribbon but the way their UI flows and transitions is just all around better and more engaging.

I'm willing to bet the UI looks pretty much exactly the same on launch.
 
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Also, why haven't Sony done anything official such as videos yet showcasing this? Where is the outcry for someone from Sony to join GAF and feed us some legit information?

Sony's already confirmed that they're going to do one that'll be posted on the PSblog in the future. And an insider has said that Andrew Goldfarb will be doing a walkthrough for IGN soon.
 

Marleyman

Banned
Sony's already confirmed that they're going to do one that'll be posted on the PSblog in the future. And an insider has said that Andrew Goldfarb will be doing a walkthrough for IGN soon.

That is good to hear. I know they have a supposed level of comfort due to MS's missteps but they should get that out sooner rather than later.
 

FINALBOSS

Banned
Good points.

I'd still prefer the better UI though. If it means overlooking ads then so be it. I can still boot a game instantly on 360 even with it's more elaborate UI. Give me the better brand integration and cool transitions. Shouldn't they be pimping stuff on PS+? Hit me with ads for games and other things to spend my money on but do it in a way that'll entice me to do it.

I just wish Sony would've done something with it instead of the static blue background. Give us some cool transitions utilizing the shapes pattern and ribbon. I want to see the graphics on the console packaging in motion. It doesn't have to be some crazy 3 second long animation, just something subtle and sleek that gives me the impression that they wanted to make the entire experience enjoyable as soon as I turn on the system.

It just sucks seeing the potential go to waste.

I see you're a fellow Workaholics fan so I'll go easy on you--but how about you wait until the UI is...I dunno finished? That was a debug kit..like bottom of the barrel. Reserve your judgement until Sony releases a UI video.
 
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