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[Triggerhappytel]

I agree. We've gone through this with the PS4 already. The reviewers seem like they are going to be extra harsh on these launch games. Their score may not be indicative of your enjoyment.

I agree with this, but I don't necessarily think it's a bad thing if ratings systems become more harsh this coming generation. However, it could just be that games like The Last of Us and GTAV have thrown things more clearly into perspective, so publishers can no longer rush out above-average games for launch and expect guaranteed 8/10s. Of course, we'll need to see more reviews of the Xbone launch titles to decide whether there's a real pattern here, or if it was just that the PS4 line-up wasn't all that great.

 

[Empty]

While the game’s economy seems aggressively geared towards microtransactions, Gems, one of the game’s two currencies, become easier to win when you return to a level with a more evolved beast. The other, Credits, are more generously doled out through normal play, and you’ll need plenty to unlock the later, harder stages.

http://www.edge-online.com/review/crimson-dragon-review/

 

[2San]

I had hopes for this one. ;_; Oh well it does make me feel better about the PS4 though.

 

[hwy_61]

Actually it does matter. If Ryse has repetitive gameplay I'll buy it at a discount. If this game gets 6-7s across the board....@ $20 I'll consider it if I'm bored or interested.

There's a reason Steam has sales throughout the year. $20 or less and people buy the crap out of games...even if they're mediocre.

I don't agree. If a game shit, I'm not gonna buy it, period. It doesn't matter to me how much it is.

 

[MrCookiepants]

Xbox One has games tho.

But seriously, who would have thought the Wii U would end up having the best launch lineup?

 

[Fantasmo]

Was it really that hard to get the composer from PD1 or 2? Did the devs even know why people liked the originals? Star Fox on a dragon. Not that hard to figure out guys.

 

[sith ewok]

Bummed about the low scores on this one. Was expecting 6's and 7's probably, but 4's and 5's? Ouch.

I will still buy it because I am obsessively addicted to anything Panzer Dragoon (I played the Windows Phone Crimson Dragon version for a few hours...).

 

[Gammacide]

I honestly can't believe anyone thought this game would amount to anything amazing, especially after a lot of the critical reception in the gaming media throughout its reveal. As with Ryse, I think it will be hard for any dev to take a game originally planned for last gen and make it into a next-gen experience; the results will always be sub-par.

 

[Hasney]

Destructoid

Like Ryse and Powershot Golf, Crimson Dragon unfortunately employs a microtransaction option to buy more currency. But! It's mostly inoffensive, because you can just buy everything through gameplay. If anyone is familiar with Mass Effect 3, it basically operates by allowing players to buy "boosters" or other items with "Jewels" -- the real-life currency of the game.

I don't like that this system is in place in the slightest, but I never once felt like I had to pay money. Instead, I was inspired to level up my dragons through normal gameplay, and simply improve my skills. Co-op multiplayer support is on the horizon, set for a December update that will allow up to three players to go on missions simultaneously. For now, you'll have to deal with single-player.

Crimson Dragon was a pleasant surprise. As a massive fan of the Panzer series, I was worried that this wouldn't quite honor it, but there's plenty here for gamers who have been longing for an entry since 2003's Orta. There are some mechanical problems, but any old-school rail shooter fan will be able to handle them.

8/10

 

[BuckRobotron]

Oh well. I had been getting some vibes in previews/hands-on that it might not match up in overall "spirit" with Panzer Dragoon proper. It sounds like the game design is a bit looser than some of us might prefer what with wingmen of vague usefulness and some open movement stages which have been noted before. I'd still pony up the $20 if I had an XB1 to see for myself if any of the PD magic was there.

What I do know is that tonight I'm dialing up Panzer Dragoon Orta on good "old" 360. I also know that Panzer Dragoon has held up for me, as I already recently replayed Orta after being inspired by the PD stage in Sonic Racing Transformed.

 

[Sushigod7]

Seeing the playthrough videos I can understand why it's getting ripped apart it doesn't look great. But it's $20 dollars it's probably going to be free next year with the games on live thing starts for the XB1. I'll end up getting it as it will be a nice departure from the other launch games.

 

[Takao]

Venture Beat:

If Crimson Dragon had been released for iOS or Android devices at a cheaper price, it would be one of the year’s more interesting releases. Instead, the final product is a rushed, homogenized mess of a game that fails to live up to its loosely associated pedigree.

There’s a couple good ideas in here, but they’ve been haphazardly thrown into an unimpressive package that does nothing to stand out against far better Xbox One launch titles. As it stands, the Panzer Dragoon series is still as dead as ever.

35/100

 

[Takao]

Sorry, GAF crashed on me.

 

[PG2G]

Sad to see it reviewing so terribly. Still buying though, lol

 

[Miles Quaritch]

Reviewers pls....you're killing any hope of MS funding Phantom Dust 2.

 

[U n i o n 0015]

Damn, that sucks. I had such high hopes for this game. Sounds half-baked.

Not feeling too bad about skipping One so far.

 

[Takao]

Sorry, GAF crashed on me.

 

[gcubed]

Venture Beat:



35/100

Step away from the keyboard

 

[fantomena]

Ouch. Looking bad for Crimson Dragon.

 

[KaYotiX]

Ehh, I'll try it. I loved Panzer Dragoon. Wonder how that would score nowadays

 

[Coxy]

wait, microtransactions? How egregious?

 

[Entrecôte]

Polygon gives it a

Spoiler

4.

Review

So much for Polygon being bone bias. Real pity, game looked promising sorta. Guess we have the first Lair right here.

 

[Curufinwe]

Destructoid are really on that 7-10 scale, huh.

 

[NoirVisage]

Destructoid are really on that 7-10 scale, huh.

Jim Left at a good time I think..

 

[LTWheels]

I suppose there goes any chance of Phantom Dust 2 being made

 

[Entrecôte]

Destructoid



8/10

Bit OT but in comments when claimed he is MS fanboy:

Wait for all the reviews. I can't talk about Ryse for a few more days.

But yes, I am enjoying the Xbox One launch far more than I thought I would. I also have no idea how one can even become a fanboy of Microsoft.

Seems to imply Ryse is going to get a slating, lame.

 

[Special C]

Anyone want to make a proper review thread and consolidate?

 

[duckroll]

Anyone want to make a proper review thread and consolidate?

I fixed it.

 

[Leflus]

I'm not that surprised by Lococycle's score, but this one is really disappointing. What a shame.

 

[Nightengale]

I suppose there goes any chance of Phantom Dust 2 being made

Review scores doesn't translate to sales. BELIEVE!

Frankly, I was never optimistic. This & Powerstar Golf felt like MS threw it out there simply to pad their launch line-up. Practically no marketing whatsoever.

 

[Sydle]

That's a shame. Probably still going to buy it for the nostalgia feels (I've played all the Panzer Dragoon titles).

I wonder if this has anything to do with the fact it started as a Kinect game and then they had to rework it as a proper game. I imagine the game design would be quite different depending on how the player was supposed to interact. I have a feeling Ryse is going to have a similar outcome. Dat Mattrick effect.

 

[RMI]

I'm not getting an xbone, but I wanted this game to make me want to get one. Sad to see it reviewing so poorly. I really liked Panzer Dragoon, and would like to see more rail shooters.

 

[dragonbane]

no f'ing way!! really!?!???

oh man...........

hmm.. maybe hope

Justin McElroy is a pretty unbiased and fair reviewer I think. He also gave Beyond an 8, which is a good score.

 

[NIGHT-]

Ouch. Was expecting this to be better. Hopefully it turns into a free gold game

 

[SoundofSilence]

Very difficult to replicate the glory that was Team Andromeda.

 

[SpartanN92]

Such a shame...Crimson Dragon SOUNDED like a good game.

Spoiler

E3 Joke

 

[LiveFromKyoto]

This was the only Xbone game I really cared about. RIP Panzer Dragoon

 

[CTLance]

;_;

Right in my Panzers. Ouch.

Of all the games on the One this would have been the one to seriously tempt me...

 

[MechaX]

This is... quite disappointing.

And we can't really chalk it up as "railshooters don't work anymore" when considering that Sin and Punishment 2 was a big hit in terms of reviews, even though it came out a few years ago.

I guess the Team Andromeda magic is truly lost.

 

[AyaisMUsikWhore]

Doesn't matter if it scored lowly. It's only $20 bucks and still worth it imo.

 

[derFeef]

Kinda baffled, it was so much fun when I played it.

 

[NoirVisage]

well, that's that then.

Very difficult to replicate the glory that was Team Andromeda.

This is... quite disappointing.

And we can't really chalk it up as "railshooters don't work anymore" when considering that Sin and Punishment 2 was a big hit in terms of reviews, even though it came out a few years ago.

I guess the Team Andromeda magic is truly lost.

Amen, the spirit of that team has long since passed into the ether.

 

[MCD]

http://www.siliconera.com/2013/11/1...houghts-bringing-xbox-one-japan-phantom-dust/

You guys can forget this article ever happened lol.

 

[3rdamention]

Ouch, Polygon redeemed then? Lol, it simply appears the game has some faults.





However, just to be a voice of reason, Knack had crappy reviews, and if you go to the Official Knack Thread, it appears nearly every person that has played it is really enjoying it. Seriously, nearly every gaffer. So dont let these reviews sway you too much if you are truly interested in this game. It may be very enjoyable, but the reviewers just didn't get it.

 

[MikeE21286]

ooof...those are disappointing to say the least

 

[Razdek]

Seems about right as it has the same gameplay from 10 years ago and they haven't really changed much of it. I think that if you enjoyed Panzar Dragoon you'll know what to expect from this game and know exactly what you're getting when you buy it.

 

[sixteen-bit]

Destructoid seems to be the outlier...

 

[SEGAvangelist]

Kinda baffled, it was so much fun when I played it.

That's all that matters. I would suggest only reading the reviews from people you generally agree with for games like this one. Knack is a good example too.

 

[Dragon1893]

Damn, really sad to see those scores. I'm sure PD fans will still have a blast with it though.