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Durante pls: Metal Gear Rising PC won't support higher resolutions than 1080p

1080p 60fps with graphics settings sounds fine to me. I'm not seeing the huge deal here.

People with high resolution monitors want clear graphics like the guys that play on lower (but supported) resolution monitors will get instead of a blurry mess?

What's not to get, who like blurry graphics, really?
 

Alo81

Low Poly Gynecologist
1080p 60fps with graphics settings sounds fine to me. I'm not seeing the huge deal here.

Different things have different levels of importance to people.

For a person with a monitor higher than 1080p, the game scaled will look really bad on it.

For the person with a 120hz monitor, the game will look considerably more choppy in comparison.

This stuff is all relative, remember that.

Someone on a 1080p 60hz set is used to that and happy with it but for those with 1440p or higher monitors or 120hz monitors, they've become accustomed to the benefits those things bring and having to downgrade does affect the experience significantly.

I have a 120hz monitor and I don't mean to sound like a snob but honestly 60fps games look kind of choppy after having played a 120fps game.
 
This is fine for me.

Resolutions greater than 1080P severely curtail performance.

The performance to visual fidelity trade off is not worth it IMO.
 

Alo81

Low Poly Gynecologist
This is fine for me.

Resolutions greater than 1080P severely curtail performance.

The performance to visual fidelity trade off is not worth it IMO.

Not everyone in the world has your exact PC specs and many others probably have better hardware.
 
Regarding the discussion about the response to this news: I agree in some ways the response can seem hyperbolic. If it's a good game, then it's probably still a good game in 1080p just like it is in 1440p.

With that said, I think there is a component of the PC Gaming landscape that many of the uninitiated don't instinctively appreciate; unlike most console gamers or handheld gamers or even iOS gamers, PC Gamers are on their own. There is no daddy Sony looking out for the platform to maintain quality control, no Microsoft providing a unified Xbox Live experience and looking out to make sure consumers are satisfied.

Forget 1080p for a moment -- you can release broken games which literally will not open on the PC and in many cases the only recourse for the consumer is to warn other consumers to stay away. This is the nature of an open platform; there is no international corporate conglomerate guiding us along. If there is to be a guide, it will have to the consumers themselves. They will need to speak up much more loudly and proactively than do other groups of gamers if they want to have an effect on publisher behavior.

Ultimately, I think this is neither a knock on Konami or PC Gamers. I can understand why Konami and Platinum aren't instant experts producing perfect PC ports -- neither are long time PC stalwarts -- and I can understand why PC Gamers are reacting the way they are. If they don't respond loudly and clearly, how else will Konami learn? Again, there's no huge company there to help Konami along; if the gamers themselves don't speak up, then no one will.

Absolutely. As part of my job on the Social Media team is to listen to the fans and try to communicate it back to the developers. Please, I would hate anyone to shy away from giving us constructive feedback, and wholehearted recommend commenting on our Facebook posts and sending me direct messages here or tagging us on twitter, @Konami.

Your feedback IS important! And sometimes it's the only way we can push an issue with the developers that WE find egregious in execution. We can only see so much of the product and response from this side of the equation and we need your help in finding parts of the games that do not meet consumer expectations. I may not be able to get you the answer you want, but never feel like you should bite your tongue for the sake of not rocking the boat.

"We're a wrench in the old system of deterrence. As long as the times refuse to change, we're going to make a hell of a racket." --Big Boss
 

Stumpokapow

listen to the mad man
This is fine for me.

Resolutions greater than 1080P severely curtail performance.

The performance to visual fidelity trade off is not worth it IMO.

It's also important that devs future proof their games. Crysis on Ultra wasn't playable for the vast majority of players on release, but it's playable today.
 

Dec

Member
I wouldn't assume 16:10 resolutions are supported properly from what was said.

Still don't know if it will stretch or have black bars.
 

News Bot

Banned
This is fine for me.

Resolutions greater than 1080P severely curtail performance.

The performance to visual fidelity trade off is not worth it IMO.

My PC says no.

This whole thing is ridiculous. Shameful if they don't fix it when it's something absurdly simple. Resolution-locking should not be a thing on PC games.
 
Given how basic an implementation it seemingly is to support any ol' resolution, it's pretty baffling to see a needless limitation like this. Hopefully an official patch isn't out of the cards.

You understand! Haha, non-scaling UIs are the bane of my existence.
I hate those so much, Human Revolution is going to be unplayable at higher resolutions and at 1080p the HUD was already getting kind of small, you can barely make out the numbers on the item bar. Scale it uuuuup.

Being a third person character action game I don't think this is an issue, or even an expectation. The lack of camera tweaking does suck though because as anyone who's played the game can tell you the camera is one of the weakest things about it; goes completely haywire at times.
 

Warewolf

Member
but I definitely believe Platinum should be informed what people want even if it's a minority.

Agreed, I just took issue with how some people chose to bring it up.

I would rather no port at all. I have a 1440P monitor. Playing at 1080P is not even an option. Have you ever played anything in non-native resolution? It looks like utter shit.

I don't buy in to this whole "cut them some slack" bullshit. By doing this, all you are doing is enabling them to perpetuate their poor business practices in the future.
I absolutely have, not even that long ago in fact. It's a completely acceptable compromise when you are looking for a playable framerate on sub-standard hardware. You may think it "looks like utter shit" but that's because your spoiled and have peculiar standards. You would rather no one play one of the most enjoyable games of the year because you have a non-standard sized monitor? Get a grip?

I'm not saying don't bring it up. By all means any Japanese developer who wants to provide a product for western PC gamers need to understand the market. But Christ if we can't get overly antagonistic at times. Encourage and provide useful criticism and feedback. This is a Platinum action game and a Metal Gear franchise entry coming out on PC the same year it launched on consoles, that's some good shit and something I want more of in the future.

Another shitty port then.
What is it with Japanese games and lousy PC ports?
1080P lock is unaccaptable for PC gamers.

This kind of attitude is just useless garbage.
 

Nethaniah

Member
This kind of attitude is just useless garbage.

Actually it's this game that is useless garbage if it comes out without any fixes to the issues presented in this thread, stop eating so much shit just because you're told to like it and have a mind of your own.
 

xn0

Member
Why would they do this? MGR:R was my favorite game this year and I was really looking forward to replaying it with my DS4 on my gaming rig. Unfortunately I built my gaming rig over 2 years ago with two watercooled 6990's driving a wonderful 30" 2560x1600 display because I live and game in the 21st century.
 

SargerusBR

I love Pokken!
Actually it's this game that is useless garbage if it comes out without any fixes to the issues presented in this thread, stop eating so much shit just because you're told to like it and have a mind of your own.

Here it is folks, a primary example of elitism.
 
OK OK OK fair enough.

Perhaps I wasn't taking other people's needs under consideration.

I apologize for that. I guess it is just that I have never understood the whole "resolution demand" thing.


To me when it comes to graphics there are two things of primary consideration:

Settings and performance. I'm more concerned about advanced graphics functions and maintaining a good framerate. Resolution is more of a secondary concern.

1080P, for me, allows for great graphical presentation without the trade-off of performance suffering that comes with these crazy resolutions like 4K.

Its hard to even imagine maintaining stable performance at that resolution with most demanding games today. Even with monster rigs.
 

News Bot

Banned
I guess it is just that I have never understood the whole "resolution demand" thing.

To me when it comes to graphics there are two things of primary consideration:

Settings and performance. I'm more concerned about advanced graphics functions and maintaining a good framerate. Resolution is more of a secondary concern.

1080P, for me, allows for great graphical presentation without the trade-off of performance suffering that comes with these crazy resolutions like 4K.

Its hard to even imagine maintaining stable performance at that resolution with most demanding games today. Even with monster rigs.

You don't say.

You're talking out of your ass for the most part and completely ignoring the fact that this isn't a problem for most gaming PC's post-2009. I play at resolutions beyond 1080p regularly with a stable 60fps on almost every single game I try. Frankly there is no debate to be had on this. Resolution locking on PC games is pointless no matter how you try and spin it.
 

Dario ff

Banned
Absolutely. As part of my job on the Social Media team is to listen to the fans and try to communicate it back to the developers. Please, I would hate anyone to shy away from giving us constructive feedback, and wholehearted recommend commenting on our Facebook posts and sending me direct messages here or tagging us on twitter, @Konami.
I already tweeted the information, but I sent you a PM with what's necessary to do (IF everything we've heard so far is true and there's been no miscommunication of the facts) in hopes that we can get this whole situation sorted out before release. :)
 

Tain

Member
I think the fact that supported resolutions are hardcoded practically confirms that some elements of the game's HUD/menus are positioned absolutely.

I mean, what else could it be?
 

Nethaniah

Member
You know it's completely fine to dislike the situation but the delivery here just casts you in a terrible light.

The situation is apparently that you can't give your opinion without other people attacking you just because they have a hardon for the developer.

Figured gaf was better than that.
 

Ogimachi

Member
OK OK OK fair enough.

Perhaps I wasn't taking other people's needs under consideration.

I apologize for that. I guess it is just that I have never understood the whole "resolution demand" thing.


To me when it comes to graphics there are two things of primary consideration:

Settings and performance. I'm more concerned about advanced graphics functions and maintaining a good framerate. Resolution is more of a secondary concern.

1080P, for me, allows for great graphical presentation without the trade-off of performance suffering that comes with these crazy resolutions like 4K.

Its hard to even imagine maintaining stable performance at that resolution with most demanding games today. Even with monster rigs.
Let people with better rigs see that for themselves, there's no excuse for locking the resolution, not even this "lack of experience" crap.
People don't put up with shitty food because the cook is new at his job.
 

Frolow

Banned
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Finished building it today, $18,000 machine.

i7-4960X, 64GB DDR3 2400Mhz RAM, 4 x GTX780 Ti's, 4 x 512GB Samsung 840 EVOs in RAID, 4 x 3TB HDD, etc etc...

My home PC is more than capable(i7-3930k, 2 x MSI Lighting GTX680s) but hopefully there will be a mod in the future to make 4K doable.

Holy shit.
 
Actually it's this game that is useless garbage if it comes out without any fixes to the issues presented in this thread, stop eating so much shit just because you're told to like it and have a mind of your own.
The game isn't running in 720p, it's an issue but it's not the end of the world, calm your tits.
 

InfiniteNine

Rolling Girl
I think the fact that supported resolutions are hardcoded practically confirms that some elements of the game's HUD/menus are positioned absolutely.

I mean, what else could it be?
Well that is true for Dark Souls too but that was adjusted by our resident PC wizard, do people with the source code should be able to implement it if it isn't already.
 
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