Meccanical
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All men become boys in the face of spherical objects.
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Final Fantasy X -Will- and FFX-2.5 plot discussion thread [Up2: Uh, um, errr, see OP]
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All men become boys in the face of spherical objects.
PhantomHound
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PhantomHound
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Stone Ocean
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Rigor mortis?
Meccanical
Member
I was gonna say Tidus had a boner from checking out Yuna and then he died with it still going hard and strong.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
If X-3 is a game, chances are her model will look nothing like the artwork. SE's 3D models never quite match Nomura's actual artstyle.
Nojima'd.
... Guess nobody's bothering with spoiler tags anymore, at this point?
Also, to clarify and from what I understand, the sex thing (which is merely heavily implied) apparently was Zanarkand's method to create Fayths, and it seems the Aeons back then were all pretty much Final Aeon-like. It looks like Bevelle's Fayths were made using a simpler method, resulting in weaker Aeons.
Soooo do you guys still want that prequel? Final Fantasy X-0, coming next Comiket!
Er, yeah, no, pretty sure that one isn't true. For one thing, everything I've read points to Tidus being turned into some kind of an Unsent, not a Fayth. Sounds like people are making some wild extrapolations based on limited information from the novels.
Also, to clarify and from what I understand, the sex thing (which is merely heavily implied) apparently was Zanarkand's method to create Fayths, and it seems the Aeons back then were all pretty much Final Aeon-like. It looks like Bevelle's Fayths were made using a simpler method, resulting in weaker Aeons.
Yeah, my mind went there, too.
Soooo do you guys still want that prequel? Final Fantasy X-0, coming next Comiket!
Paine is in the novel, but I believe that's it.
You mean there other places than Paris in France?!
I can not wait for Yuna Returns: Final Fantasy X
She is now the saviour of souls and she must save the world before it ends.
She will fight using slutty outfits and she will now jump, crawl and crouch.
At the end of the game, it turns out that God is the bad guy, she defeats him and a new world is born and she lives happily with Tidus in
She is now the saviour of souls and she must save the world before it ends.
She will fight using slutty outfits and she will now jump, crawl and crouch.
At the end of the game, it turns out that God is the bad guy, she defeats him and a new world is born and she lives happily with Tidus in
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Meccanical
Member
Why do mediocre when you can excel at bat shit crazy?
PhantomHound
Banned
That's insulting to Yoko Taro. What he does is art compared to this piss poor job Nojima is doing.
Honestly, if FF team want a messed up dark story, just hire Yoko Taro. Don't try to imitate him. Only he does it right.
Relaxed Muscle
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I'll take bat shit crazy definetly.
I hope X-3 has even more gore, sex and weird shit.
or bat shit garbage, it depends on how you see it.
I stopped putting spoiler tags on the story related stuff since the thread title has changed to plot discussion. Figured that title should be self explanatory enough for people to only come in if they're fine with spoilers. xD
PedroPanache
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The story of FFX-2 is in essence about Yuna being stuck on the loss of Tidus, not being able to move on and not able to enjoy the peace she has brought to Spira. She chases someone she presumes to be Tidus, but ultimately isn't, and through Shuyin and Lenne's tragic story, she is able to get a sense of closure and move on. The normal ending FMV ends on this very note; she didn't quite find what she was looking for, but in turn, found something else and was finally able to move on. It's bittersweet, but it's uplifting and leaves us with a happy, content Yuna. The whole story builds towards this conclusion and not a reunion with Tidus.
Of course, if you mash a few buttons in the farplane in chapter 3, and say yes to the Bahamut Fayth's Tidus Resurrection Service, then you'll get your pure fan service ending. I don't think Tidus appearing briefly on the Farplane goes against him swimming in a new ocean, or whatever it was that the Fayth said. Tonally, what the normal ending and the good ending represent, it's pratically oil and water. They do not mix well at all. I always thought that it was blatantly obvious in the way they handled the good ending that the story was never really about Tidus and Yuna being reunited. That ending was fan service they felt compelled to deliver as an aside to serve a certain part of their audience.
I agree that it feels like mere fan service and tacked on. "Good job getting rid of that new threat to Spira, Yuna. Say, how could we reward you? Would you like Tidus back? *snaps fingers* Done! Your trophy is waiting at Besaid!"
But from what I remember, the original plan was to make Shuyin a hindrance to Tidus's return. They decided against that during development because it made it look like Yuna was sending him to the afterlife for purely selfish reasons, which, yeah, maybe not so heroic. I guess that's why it was never explained in the final game why Shuyin and Tidus looked so similar, and why Tidus's return in the good ending seemed so sudden/unrelated to the rest of the plot.
PedroPanache
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Yes, they never really tied Shuyin and Tidus together in any meaningful way. Interesting to know what the original plan was with regards to Shuyin, though. That's something I never knew. I'm someone who likes FFX-2's story to a point. It fell apart when the time came to tie all these disparate threads together into a cohesive narrative. It seems once they abandoned that notion of Shuyin being a hindrance to Tidus' return, they struggled to find an elegant solution to that problem. Abandoning it and leaving numerous plot holes is ultimately what derailed the entire story. Still, I liked Yuna's personal journey and what saving Spira for a second time meant to her more than anything else.
Oh hey guys, what's going on in this thre-
Actually, knowing Gaf, I was surprised that wasn't your first thought guys.
Actually, knowing Gaf, I was surprised that wasn't your first thought guys.
Why? Just because i am tired about the recent bullshit that Square-Enix have been doing lately, you pity me? lol
I dunno man, but at least Atlus has been doing better and more believable stories than this piece of crap
Rising_Hei
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FFX's ending meant that Tidus resurrected but not the game did not say it LOUD and CLEAR, so... 
I don't see how that is fanservice... the whole story of X-2 is a filler :/
I don't see how that is fanservice... the whole story of X-2 is a filler :/
PhantomHound
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What about the ending of Final Fantasy X where Tidus emerges from the water after the credits? Doesn't that make it clear that X-2 was supposed to end with them together? Also at the end of the normal cutscene Yuna says, "It all began when I saw this sphere of you." Implying she is talking to Tidus somewhere.
Relaxed Muscle
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Wait NTR infected FF too?
Fuck that.
Fuck that.
No?
It's a hopeful indication that Tidus might be resurrected or has been 'born' as a genuine entity. The beautiful thing about it is that it's not concluding anything definitively or actively adding or taking away from the ending. It does however let the final image of Tidus close the game smiling, assuring some sort of happier ending for at least himself.
Zoe
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Cousins aren't taboo in Asian culture.
Black Door
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Meccanical
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The nostalgic and deluded Final Fantasy fans, they don't want to accept reality and they still cling to hope that Final Fantasy will be back to their glorious times
Lol, that sounds about right.
Honestly, the main point I wonder is, why do you even care? People have different opinions about all kinds of things.
You guys never rest until you try to make sure everyone feels the exact same way as you do.
Who cares if people are defending it? It's a new story in FFX's universe, added as a bonus for the HD collection. I think you'll probably see a lot of people who like it, if you don't shame them into silence first.
BlazeBreak
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....I almost want to see X-3 now simply on grounds of how it'll be even worse than XIII-2's completely unnecessary, previous game-ruining, crazy bad premise.
Relaxed Muscle
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I don't know you guys, but I want this novel to be translated, either oficially or unoficially.
I just read from page 16 to the end of this thread. Sweet baby Jesus, what the hell is wrong with Square-Enix? I'm actually morbidly curious to see how FFX-3 will turn out with that kind of setup going into it.
I mean, Yuna with massive boobs and an icy demeanor? Lecherous humpty dumptidus? Teens with boob envy? Holy crap.
I mean, Yuna with massive boobs and an icy demeanor? Lecherous humpty dumptidus? Teens with boob envy? Holy crap.
PhantomHound
Banned
Different strokes. Different opinions. Don't you have something you like that a bunch of people don't like? Different opinions of thing are good sometimes, we aren't all bloody the same.
DDDD!
It's going to be translated unoficially, that's a fact.
I reached the stage "Final Fantasy Acceptance" some short time ago, so I thought all the BS in the OP was absolutely hilarious. I've given up on Final Fantasy now, it's not the same games I grew up with.
I think that we should be worried about Final Fantasy XV or about Square Enix in general
PhantomHound
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I will take the quest. I will set your eyes... asunder.
Yep.
As for Yuna's narration in Final Fantasy X-2, just because she seems to be addressing Tidus, that doesn't necessarily mean she's actually talking to him in person.
I imagine it will be fan-translated sooner or later. Lots of translation projects like that, nowadays.
The massive boobs are Lulu's. Nothing new, there!
PhantomHound
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I guess, but it doesn't matter. The audio drama exists, the novel exists. The official ending is the good and perfect endings. We can't change that now
PhantomHound
Banned
Have you seen titan Fa... Tifa? Boobs in FF is nothing new. Also... why are big boobs a bad thing? And they're LuLu's apparently.
I guess that's way of justifying this upcoming game's existence.