FIFA 14 is terrible, PES 14 is really terrible. Makes me sad, no football game for me this year, traded FIFA in and PES is not fun.
they will find a way to f... this up, im sure.
Going PS4 only is either a fanboy pipe dream, or spoken by somebody who doesn't understand how similar the two consoles are compared to their predecessors.
Porting between PS4 and Bone is borderline trivial. PES will come to both systems unless Sony money hats, which makes zero sense for a football game with no complete FIFA license or being historically even half as good as their competitor.
FIFA 14 is fantastic and clearly has mindshare at this point. The real question is if Konami will dedicate the necessary resources to compete, which given the overall quality of their games in recent years, does not appear to be much.
'Wholesalers typically pay around $30 per game and with the costs of getting the goods to the wholesalers, any co-op advertising or marketing, and return of good contingencies being roughly $14 per game, the publisher is going to typically get $16 for every unit sold.
like the past 5 years?
What about my Vita though? That's the version I'm most interested in.
No Wii U play control version? If so, at least make the PS4 version support the Move controller (is that even possible?)
Going PS4 only is either a fanboy pipe dream, or spoken by somebody who doesn't understand how similar the two consoles are compared to their predecessors.
Porting between PS4 and Bone is borderline trivial. PES will come to both systems unless Sony money hats, which makes zero sense for a football game with no complete FIFA license or being historically even half as good as their competitor.
FIFA 14 is fantastic and clearly has mindshare at this point. The real question is if Konami will dedicate the necessary resources to compete, which given the overall quality of their games in recent years, does not appear to be much.
What...Porting between PS4 and Bone is borderline trivial. PES will come to both systems unless Sony money hats, which makes zero sense for a football game with no complete FIFA license or being historically even half as good as their competitor.
As PES player i was blown away with FIFA14, when did FIFA get this good? :0
Superior to PES in every way.
What...
Not for me.
I think the defensive AI is a joke, there's not enough fluidity or movement in attack and it's just a laborious and cumbersome experience if you're playing with anyone below the top bracket of teams. Like playing with a team of Carlton Cole's.
Oh, and the bullshit lobbed through ball over the top has been dialled up to 11 this year online. Ultimate Team is borderline unplayable.
Definite regression in my opinion. FIFA has been the dominant football game for the last 5-6 years but it's not beyond another turn around. Intrigued to see what Konami can do. That said I'm not abandoning FIFA any time soon. They seem to hit the spot every other year I think.
Yeah, the "lob" pass is a FIFA problem for nearly a decade, but the keeper AI is way better than in PES. These 2 things deflated the great impression I had with PES14, because it really is a great football game but if you play it for months its getting really annoying.
Interesting
Does EA have an exclusive license on Football teams?
Because PES would be so much better if it had the official names.
Yeah, in an ideal world 2k would aquire the FIFA licence and realease the game we all deserve.
I've read this post a few times but can't make any sense out of it. Is this a reference to a meme like the "square just shot themselves in the foot"?
Nothing interesting about it, people mistakingly assume their Twitter actually know their heads from their assholes.
Nothing interesting about it, people mistakingly assume their Twitter actually know their heads from their assholes.
They don't.
Yes.
Doesn't matter, we have option files.
Does EA have an exclusive license on Football teams? Because PES would be so much better if it had the official names.
They seemingly know about a PS4 version but not of Xbox One and WiiU, it's interesting.
When does the license run out?
Before 2009 the last good FIFA game was in 1998.
FIFA was fucking appalling during the PS2 era. Infact FIFA was worse then than PES is now, relative to the competition, so it's absolutely possible that it can switch again like it did before.
I actually miss a lot of the "other" football games that we don't get anymore. This is Football, Actua Soccer, Ronaldo V Football, Three Lions.. I mean not all of them were good but some of them at least offered different things.
As PES player i was blown away with FIFA14, when did FIFA get this good? :0
Superior to PES in every way.
FIFA 14 career mode on the PS3 is a nightmare. The menus run at sub 10fps. Really pisses me off. Still put 3 seasons in though hahahahhaah....:')
Yeah, their servers are a nightmare at the moment, but I'm talking more about the game itself. I think that FIFA and PES are both very mediocre football games and that another approach is needed to really come close to football. PES14 with its new animations and physics is pretty close, but AI and the way a game runs is just wrong.Oh god, the game would look good and presumably play good but with the current state of 2k online servers, hell no. NBA2k14 is possibly one of the worst online experiences i've ever had. That is, when i'm able to actually connect and get a game.
what? in my opinion next-gen FIFA 14 (not the current-gen version) is way better than FIFA 13, 12 and 11
well, this PES news doesn't surprise me at all, about time.
Breaking news, porting from PS4 to XB1 is trivial. Porting from an OpenGL based language to DirectX based is trivial. Porting from 1.8Tflop GPU to 1.3Tflop GPU is trivial.
And last but certainly by no means least, Porting from 5-6GB of Ram at 176gb/s to 5GB of ram at 68GB/s and a 32mb Esram Cache is trivial.
Seriously, it's not trivial, as well as porting the game, there are additional costs such as licensing, QC,QA, Servers, Legal costs, Boxart, Liasons. None of these costs have been reduced by the hardware being more alike.
Ubisoft claim it costs around $1.3million for a WiiU port and I have no reason to question that number is similar for XB1:
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articl...says-wii-u-ports-costing-under-USD1-3-million
To quote IGN:
http://uk.ign.com/articles/2006/05/06/the-economics-of-game-publishing
With simple Maths:
1.3million/16 = 81250 units.
So to recoup the initial investment they would need to sell 80k+ on XB1. As well as any additional Costs, so Does it seem likely to you that PES would be profitable on XB1?
Considering that PES is a PS associated Franchise and Sales are heavily skewed away from the US, it seems to me that PES would likely just about Break even on XB1 and in fact drag down the ROI.
fifa 14 is mediocre
i have it on ps4 and its honestly one of my worst gaming experiences ever
Will probably be PS4/PS3/PS2/PSP/Xbox360/XboxOne
Fixed.
Yep. Why on earth should Konami resign on the sales they could gather with Xbox family? Games like this from companies like this will never be exclusive to on e system.
PES Series went downhill as soon as they decided to go Multiplatform.
If they stay PS4 only I will support the franchise and expect it to top Fifa within 2 years.
Not to mention FOX Engine was developed in part to make multiplatform development easier.
OMG. such biased..
The quality of Konami games went downhill when they decided to put games on Microsofts machine.
Kojima wasn't too happy was he?