nelsonroyale
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Kabuki Waq said:
actually BD looks better technically, but I quite like the games style...its the art style and the characters that are impressive here.
The youtube video doesnt really do the game justice though
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10 images from the US version of Trusty Bell/Eternal Sonata
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actually BD looks better technically, but I quite like the games style...its the art style and the characters that are impressive here.
The youtube video doesnt really do the game justice though
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PepsimanVsJoe
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Kabuki Waq said:
Animation looks fairly standard for jrpgs. Not exactly impressive, not horrible either. Oh and I find it doubtful that Namco/Tri-C haven't made improvements since TGS 06.
Not sure how that excuses the screens but eh well. Reminds me of Radiata Stories in a way(great looking cut-scenes, mediocre battle graphics)
This is starting to get utterly ridiculous. I've played FF12 for nearly 100 hours and the battles don't come anywhere close to that. Are you all really too numb-skulled to see the HUGE GAPING DIFFERENCE THE SIZE OF A HALLWAY between 640*480 with no AA and shitty texture filtering and 1280*720 with AA and nice filtering? I love my PS2, but this is madness.nelsonroyale said:
nelsonroyale
Member
Durante said:
you are blind if you think that pic looks impressive...and given the hardware I find FFXII FAR more impressive than this game...and I like how this looks
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Kabuki Waq
Member
PepsimanVsJoe said:
great looking cut scenes i dont disagree with. I just hink from all the real Gameplay movies i have seen have looked unimpressive.
Listen,
A. I am not being partisan, don't cry like a baby when people call shit out. Not everyone has ulterior motives when giving their opinions on games.
B. I know what I saw when I was at TGS. Textures were washed out and it just looked bad.
The reason I say it looks like a ps2 game cause in the battle screens there is pretty much ZERO geometry. It has got a flat ground texture and some random enemy in it and to me that might as well be PS2. The enemy might have some bump mapping or whatever on it, but still, looks like a ps2 game.
The other shots look spectacular though (despite the guy not ****ing closing his hands to hold bread what the **** is that).
A. I am not being partisan, don't cry like a baby when people call shit out. Not everyone has ulterior motives when giving their opinions on games.
B. I know what I saw when I was at TGS. Textures were washed out and it just looked bad.
The reason I say it looks like a ps2 game cause in the battle screens there is pretty much ZERO geometry. It has got a flat ground texture and some random enemy in it and to me that might as well be PS2. The enemy might have some bump mapping or whatever on it, but still, looks like a ps2 game.
The other shots look spectacular though (despite the guy not ****ing closing his hands to hold bread what the **** is that).
nelsonroyale
Member
rage1973 said:
Well yes FFXII jaggy and blocky, though the design makes it much more impressive in that shot...and Sonata looks very poor there. Are you actually trying to say that sonata shot looks good...?
Anyway, its a rather sill discussion since Im saying the battle shots look poo...but the game mostly looks pretty in motion...so its irrelevant.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Hopefully the next batch of screens is more impressive. Seriously the forest/jungle environment is just ugly and the rather bland enemies in the shot don't help.
flipping_heck
Member
Dammit, im so tempted to buy a X-360 just for this awesome looking game... Now, if Namco ports this to the PS3 then my problems will be solved...
bigmit3737
Member
Kabuki Waq said:
Yeah, your right....game looks a lot better in screenshots...
But I love this type of battle system...I think I may pick up a 360 when they are more stable..and more games are out.
nelsonroyale
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bigmit3737 said:
blim had a vid up at TGS and it looked really nice...better than in screens actually
peace
NOW everything becomes clear to me. If people take bullshots like the one posted above for FF12 as their basis for comparison, then - together with a bit of selective blindness - one could possibly argue that TB looks somewhat like a souped-up PS2 game.
Looking at real shots, the difference is clear as day.
To make a fair comparison, I resized the FF12 shot to be the same height as the TB shot. This is exactly like FF12 looks on my HD screen. As I said before, I played it for nearly 100 hours, so I would know.
Now, I am aware that console gamers are not into IQ as much as those on the PC side of things (mainly because until recently they had low-res CRTs as their output medium), but I don't think I need to comment further on this.
Looking at real shots, the difference is clear as day.
To make a fair comparison, I resized the FF12 shot to be the same height as the TB shot. This is exactly like FF12 looks on my HD screen. As I said before, I played it for nearly 100 hours, so I would know.
Now, I am aware that console gamers are not into IQ as much as those on the PC side of things (mainly because until recently they had low-res CRTs as their output medium), but I don't think I need to comment further on this.
Durante said:NOW everything becomes clear to me. If people take bullshots like the one posted above for FF12 as their basis for comparison, then - together with a bit of selective blindness - one could possibly argue that TB looks somewhat like a souped-up PS2 game.
Looking at real shots, the difference is clear as day.
To make a fair comparison, I resized the FF12 shot to be the same height as the TB shot. This is exactly like FF12 looks on my HD screen. As I said before, I played it for nearly 100 hours, so I would know.
Now, I am aware that console gamers are not into IQ as much as those on the PC side of things (mainly because until recently they had low-res CRTs as their output medium), but I don't think I need to comment further on this.
There is no comparison, it is clear as day and anyone who says otherwise are fooling themselves. Nuff said.
PorscheThunder
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Only in JRPG's my friend.sp0rsk said:
Nice graphics. Best cell shading confirmed?
I wish the game was fully cel-shaded, this seems more like Dark Cloud 2, with the black outlines on characters rather than actual cel-shading. Not to mention the environments...
Actually, let's talk about the environments. Looks very clean and fit for a 360 game. But the backgrounds during battles look so drab and empty. And I think they stand out more because the non-battle parts look so bright and colorful. Character design is cute, maybe a bit too cute.
Hope it turns out good though, but it's not exactly my most anticipated RPG.
Actually, let's talk about the environments. Looks very clean and fit for a 360 game. But the backgrounds during battles look so drab and empty. And I think they stand out more because the non-battle parts look so bright and colorful. Character design is cute, maybe a bit too cute.
Hope it turns out good though, but it's not exactly my most anticipated RPG.
It's no point arguing about the graphics: some people give way too much weight into resolution and sharpness and cannot see beyond it.
It reminds me of the people who sweared on their lives that the graphics in Evolution on Dreamcast automatically looked better than FFIX on the PSOne because of the higher screen and texture res.
It reminds me of the people who sweared on their lives that the graphics in Evolution on Dreamcast automatically looked better than FFIX on the PSOne because of the higher screen and texture res.
tahrikmili
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Hey! Let's post PS2 screenshots at 320x240 to hide all the awful texturing and compare them to HD screengrabs and argue they look better! We're so damn clever, I can't get my head around it! :lol
Pureauthor
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Cdammen said:Technically it's impressive... but I really don't like the art style, it looks really animu generic
... How many anime have you watched?
PepsimanVsJoe
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Why is this game being compared to FFXII visually?
A better example would be Radiata Stories. Nevermind this is hopeless.
Oh good my favorite word.
A better example would be Radiata Stories. Nevermind this is hopeless.
Cdammen said:generic
Oh good my favorite word.
Because some people started saying that FF12 battles look just like it? But you're right, it's hopeless. I'd say that the best comparison on PS2 is probably Rogue Galaxy. The rendering styles are very similar. And TB looks closer to RG's CG cutscenes than to its gameplay.PepsimanVsJoe said:
theREBELins
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Grafix whores
sp0rsk said:
I like ya sporks, but this is asinine. I put in a LOT of time in FFXII and enjoyed the hell out of it, but it's not a pretty looking game by today's standards. Nice locales, but to compare its graphics to something like Trusty Bell is beyond ludicrous. It's like comparing a VHS tape to an HD DVD or Blu Ray grab. Yes, the jump is that significant.
I'm completely stoked for this.. hope we get it sometime in 2007, but I'm not holding my breath.
Kabuki Waq
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theREBELins said:
wait but i thought everyone thought i was crazy when i mentioned the graphics sucked in motion? now i posted a youtube video of actual gameplay and i am a graphics whore?
wtf?
Kabuki Waq
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i dont agree with Sporks often but other than the resolution FF12 does actually look better:lol
Pureauthor
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From the artistic standpoint, it's of course open to opinion. I prefer the look of Trusty Bell to FFXII, because I'm a sucker for beautiful, surrealistic dreamworlds. Others think differently. Hey, no problem.
But from a technical perspective, Trusty Bell is the clear winner over FFXII. Saying FFXII looks better is just completely beyond the grasp of reason.
But from a technical perspective, Trusty Bell is the clear winner over FFXII. Saying FFXII looks better is just completely beyond the grasp of reason.
ElectricBlue187
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sp0rsk said:
you've lost your freakin mind
trusty bell is lightyears ahead of FF12
IcebergSlim3000
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To many jaded elitist gamers in this thread for me.
Peace.
Oh and yes those screens kick ass.
Peace.
Oh and yes those screens kick ass.
Although I still have my doubts about the battle system (as I do with most Namco RPGs), the graphics here are certainly good enough for me. I really am beginning to feel sorry for the sorts that can't seem to do anything but complain about every single screenshot that gets floated these days. Talk about glass half empty.
Thanks for the hook-up, Blim.
Thanks for the hook-up, Blim.
nelsonroyale
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Blimblim said:
doesnt look girly at all. Good looking and groomed =/= girly
Anyway, this thread has become all kinds of stupid (with my aid (through the truth I have spoken hah)). SO lets get back to talking about this game, instead of getting defensive and knee jerk (feel like being a patronising **** today)
interested in seeing some of the games other locals
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Kabuki Waq
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Hunahan said:
Screen do look great. Game looks like crap in MOTION. All these ppl creaming their pants because of the graphics are insane if they still feel the same way after watching it in motion....the way the chracter runs and turns is PSX level.