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2011 UEFA Champions League Final |OT| Barcelona vs Manchester United
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Lunchbox said:sad the seasons over until august and theres no world cup this year like 2010this summer blows
this loss doesnt really hurt like 09 when we had the best team in the world. the current team overachieved this season by winning the league and reaching this far, so no shame in that. expected to lose 2-0 but atleast rooney got one back kept the game alive until half time. midfield just ran out of steam in the later stages, but it is what it is
now lets get modric !
This. United pretty much overachieved by just reaching the final. The current team just isn't world's top material. It has been obvious since the fall and there's no shame in admitting that imo.
UnblessedSoul
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Man utd just got outplayed, their skills will never match barcas
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Yeah, we've had a bunch of "big game" matches that failed to deliver on their promise the last few years, but this was a great great match. A match completely dominated by one side, sure, but a true show piece for the sport.markao said:
This Barca team has already passed into legendary status.
jamesinclair
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Lunchbox said:sad the seasons over until august and theres no world cup this year like 2010
Are you insane, or just dont follow the sport at all?
Gold Cup starts in a week.
Copa America starts in a month.
Libertadores is in the semis right now.
anonnumber6
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So which recent Barca side is the best:
'06 Ronaldinho Barca
'09 Eto'o, Xavi, Messi etc.
'10 The Ibra era
'11 Villa, Xavi, Messi, Iniesta
I'm torn between '06 and '09.
'06 Ronaldinho Barca
'09 Eto'o, Xavi, Messi etc.
'10 The Ibra era
'11 Villa, Xavi, Messi, Iniesta
I'm torn between '06 and '09.
Tim the Wiz
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Rad- said:
:lol Here comes the revisionism. Outside of Barcelona, obviously, and, maybe, Real Madrid, United is undoubtedly the best side in the CL currently. Three finals in four years and an unbeaten run to the final this season isn't something to sniff at. And overachieved by winning the league? Won it by 9 points. The table never lies.
Fundamentally, this Barca side is special.
woodsey1982
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To think that 7 of that side came thru the ranks, unbelievable.
anonnumber6
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But let's not kid ourselves, our '08 side was better than our current side. But this side with a few more additions could go on to be a great team, if only we still had a 27-year-old Roy Keane in our side.Tim the Wiz said:
anonnumber6 said:
'11
they have the expertise,messi is now the best player by far in the world, only the long year and the WC made us tired, but man, look at the team performance during november-december, the best i've ever seen, including 5-0 vs madrid. The team was almost without fuel these last months, but 2 weeks after we won la liga has been like godsend.
radioheadrule83
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Tim the Wiz said:
It was tougher for everyone this year though. Liverpool came second in a season where they'd only lost 2 games and had an amazing points tally... this season was something else. Much closer all around.
I loved all the special adverts during the ad breaks btw. Especially the gaming ones, for games that aren't out until September and November, as well as Ocarina of Time 3D. I hope big football events attract special ads in future -- kinda like Superbowl.
Yay, the Yankees beat the Yankees!
I can never be a fan of a sport with so LITTLE parity as Euro soccer. Spain is by far the worst with almost ALL money from the sport going to 2 teams. I read somewhere that Barcelona makes 17 times more money that the lowest grossing team in the league. That's sad.
Every game is an allstar game and its a race to see who can spend more money. There's no salary caps or profit sharing and the whole system is broken.
Long live American sports. Hard to hate the Yankees when you look at Euro soccer's broken system in comparison.
Editted the parity part.
I can never be a fan of a sport with so LITTLE parity as Euro soccer. Spain is by far the worst with almost ALL money from the sport going to 2 teams. I read somewhere that Barcelona makes 17 times more money that the lowest grossing team in the league. That's sad.
Every game is an allstar game and its a race to see who can spend more money. There's no salary caps or profit sharing and the whole system is broken.
Long live American sports. Hard to hate the Yankees when you look at Euro soccer's broken system in comparison.
Editted the parity part.
Tapiozona said:
pretty fun when most of the team comes from la Masia. of course, FCB has the moneys, madrid has more, ManU too, and CHelsea has a russian that with Florentino, broke the transfer market with they almost unlimited budget.
btw, a sensible part of the money, for Barça, goes to other sports were we are also top tiers: basketball, handball, hockey, futbol sala.
L0st Id3ntity
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:lol :lol :lol :lol :lolTapiozona said:
Tim the Wiz
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anonnumber6 said:
I think the way we played in '08 was more conducive to us being better than any individual-based quality difference. 4-5-1 sharp counter-attacking football with Scholes less off his prime and Ronaldo marauding up forward. And Barca weren't pressing like they do now and neither was the understanding between Busquets-Xavi-Iniesta as it is now.
Not that the 4-4-1-1 is no good. (In fact, I think it's perfect for the PL.) However, against Barca it's just asking too much of your defense to match up against that Barca forward line without a three-man midfield and one of them roving deep/picking up Messi. Fergie received the lesson Mourinho did in the first Clasico.
anonnumber6
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Broken?Tapiozona said:
No team has ever won the champion's league two years in a row, Barca and real have their own TV deals but the Premier league, Bundesliga and I believe the Serie A are all distributed their TV revenue so that there isn't a large difference between top and bottom.
You can keep your insular American sports.
FuturusX said:
Not really fair to compare a two leg game to a final. You'd just have to say that United didn't perform tonight. I think Ferguson picked the right XI but Valencia, Hernandez, Evra and Giggs just couldn't get into the game. Park, Rooney and Vidic can only do so much. Perhaps if United had a Roy Keane figure in there they could have asserted more control, but I just don't think they have the players to deal with this Barcelona team. Very few clubs do.
radioheadrule83
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Sage00 said:
To be fair to him - that's only just coming into force. Too little too late to stop the rise of some clubs and their mega millionairres and media backers.
Sage00 said:
Tons of loop holes in the fair play rules. Teams can bring in money through sponsorship or owners can use their other businesses as revenue sources. It's not going to stop the rich from staying rich in soccer.
It is a step in the right direction though.. Just one which is easily bypassed.
L0st Id3ntity said:
Thanks for the amazing rebuttal. What can I say to that?
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anonnumber6 said:
'11. They may have won one fewer title, but they suffocate opponents far better.
Ushojax said:
Park played well for about 10 minutes and then he was chasing shadows. UTD looked okay when they played higher up the pitch and exerted pressure. But then under pressure that sat deeper and payed the price.
Comparison probably isn't fare. But that was the one most one sided final's I have seen. It will live long in the memory.
Owen on thte bench over Berba was a strange one.
Cerebral Assassin
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Tapiozona said:
Wait, an American arguing for socialism?
Risk Breaker
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Thank you Barça.
Undoubtedly the best team I've ever seen.
Messi, Xavi, Villa, Valdés, Eric, Masche, the old and the new, the young and the old... feels so good man.
Congrats to Manchester United for the BRILLIANT match. It's not that you played bad, it's that Barça played one of their best matches... And Valdés saved a lot of dangerous plays. Oh what would we do without him.
Undoubtedly the best team I've ever seen.
Messi, Xavi, Villa, Valdés, Eric, Masche, the old and the new, the young and the old
... feels so good man.Congrats to Manchester United for the BRILLIANT match. It's not that you played bad, it's that Barça played one of their best matches... And Valdés saved a lot of dangerous plays. Oh what would we do without him.
Sage00 said:
The Glazers own companies who sponsor Man U. What's to stop that 'sponsorship' from doubling or trippling so they can spend more?
Money all goes to the same place in the end. Ever wonder why Man U is so successful and the Tampa Bay Bucaneers aren't (relatively)?
Rules. Good rules, and parity.
barca '06 were great, but that was mostly due to deco and ronaldinho. they're a much better team nowadays. their passing game is unlike anything ii've ever seen. it all starts with valdes passing the ball to one of the defenders and they take it from there. and the beauty of their very offensive way of playing is that it's also the best defence--they start pressing as soon as they lose the ball. up front is where their defence starts.
united looked archaic. they don't have defenders like pique to build up from the back. it's embarassing how mediocre their squad is, really, when comparing it to barcelona (and madrid).
united looked archaic. they don't have defenders like pique to build up from the back. it's embarassing how mediocre their squad is, really, when comparing it to barcelona (and madrid).
Cerebral Assassin
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Tapiozona said:
Because any money over the going rate will be ignored by UEFA.
Interesting. I think he might be Barca's weakest link.Risk Breaker said:Thank you Barça.
Undoubtedly the best team I've ever seen.
Messi, Xavi, Villa, Valdés, Eric, Masche, the old and the new, the young and the old
Congrats to Manchester United for the BRILLIANT match. It's not that you played bad, it's that Barça played one of their best matches... And Valdés saved a lot of dangerous plays. Oh what would we do without him.
radioheadrule83 said:
It wasn't just that though, both Chelsea and Arsenal completely imploded at various points of the year. Man U were mediocre (by their standards) but they were consistent and tough at home. They didn't have to be stellar to win this year.
It's interesting as the Premiership is in the opposite state to La Liga. While in Spain the top two get ever further away from the rest in the Premiership the top teams have faltered while the teams beneath them have got harder to beat. Perhaps ironically it's a big reason why the Premier League this season was so great to watch. I think the likes of Man U/Chelsea/Arsenal are going to have to watch themselves because Man City and, perhaps, Liverpool are well positioned to take advantage of this.
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