Best post I have read today. And that is saying a lot.
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Adam Sessler interview: Xbox One's DRM, Always-Online
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Best post I have read today. And that is saying a lot.
ReturnOfTheRAT
Member
I'm so embarrassed for them fumbling through these answers when they've had months and months of time to clarify. Ok, so they can't respond to rumors about the console that didn't exist, until it was announced yesterday. Fine. Yesterday you announced it and you still haven't gotten the story straight or responded properly. Everyone said to wait until it's announced. Than happened and the thing is still a clusterfuck of unknowns.
synchronicity
Member
Make sure you do your part then. DO NOT UNDER ANY SCENARIO BUY! I know I won't!
Dr.Palutena
Member
oh boy oh boy, I can play blu-ray movies offline? Sign me up!
You got a link for that Gerstmann interview, homey?
I bet the Adam Orth fiasco might played a role.
It was even covered in the normal press with quite a few articles.
Or maybe it was compromise because they feared the reactions over "big brother" Kinect as well.
There are quite alot articles in the normal German press that are arguing about it.
Kotaku is starting to look really one the money right about now..
I'm shocked i'm even saying that.
This will only work well for modern societies with fibre optic connections, electric cars, and be able to buy Google Glass for their entire cul de sac, right?
Psychoward
Banned
This is heavily hinting at an always always online console isn't it. Fuck.
Iacobellis
Junior Member
They don't have much time to get all of the policies straight. There are still a ton of things unknown to us about the console, such as games.
SneakyStephan
Banned
What I don't understand is how NOONE in the gaming press will lay into these people during their interviews and then publicly when they refuse to answer.
These aren't questions that should go unanswered, they should be held accountable by the press if they weasel themselves out of answering.
We all know WHY they won't answer, because they know they can't outright say it without backlash and think if they are silent and ignore it then it'll go away and people will accept it.
Because that's how it always goes in the gaming industry isn't it... everything goes away when the next big pr campaign for something else starts.
These aren't questions that should go unanswered, they should be held accountable by the press if they weasel themselves out of answering.
We all know WHY they won't answer, because they know they can't outright say it without backlash and think if they are silent and ignore it then it'll go away and people will accept it.
Because that's how it always goes in the gaming industry isn't it... everything goes away when the next big pr campaign for something else starts.
its because their entire philosophy of the hardware was to be connected to the cloud computing and "making the Xboxone stronger over time" because they consider it modular. id you not see at the reveal when they showed the machine "Cloud Powered" graphic?
It most likely would be the last console they make for ten years.
Online was their strategy... the backlash is fucking them up big time
It most likely would be the last console they make for ten years.
Online was their strategy... the backlash is fucking them up big time
NullPointer
Member
It really, really, really is.
It's kind of shitty that they sacked him. Why fire him if you're going to parrot him two months later?
You know it, dawg.
http://www.giantbomb.com/podcasts/talking-xbox-one-with-microsoft-s-albert-penello/1600-490/
chickdigger802
Banned
I know they haven't gotten this all figured out... but shouldn't they have some of this stuff figured out by the reveal? They had this date set ages ago, and it was even delayed 
This is the greatest description of the debacle I've seen thus far. Bravo, sir.
I'm far from a games press apologist, yet I've been impressed with how (rightfully) aggressive different outlets have been in pressuring Microsoft for better answers here. Eurogamer's interview with Phil Harrison comes to mind.
ALLOW ME TO INTERRUPT THE SINGLE PLAYER EXPERIENCE YOU WERE ATTEMPTING TO BE IMMERSED IN VIA POPUP THAT YOUR INTERNET HAS BEEN OFFLINE FOR TWO MINUTES BECAUSE YOUR ISP SUCKS EVEN THOUGH YOU PAID 60 DOLLARS FOR THIS GAME DURING LAUNCH WEEK
Meanwhile, watch pirates still find a way to jtag this shit.
no. they are talking up cloud because they want the machine to not matter in ten years and they want you playing the game off the cloud on any device through LIVE
DRM is just a convenient fact of digital rights and what the pubs want
Oh, it is. It's just a question of how bad it will be. But all of this dancing around and these mixed signals tell me all I need to know.
TheDarkKnight774
Member
So what happens when you have two profiles on one box? Clearly it knows its the same system and let's you play?
It looks like the HDD is not external so there goes my trick of popping of my HDD and swapping it while going to a friends house.
And in no way is playing your game on their profile like buying a new game.
It looks like the HDD is not external so there goes my trick of popping of my HDD and swapping it while going to a friends house.
And in no way is playing your game on their profile like buying a new game.
Mah man.
No. What a dumbass and I don't mean the mouth, I mean the brains of this operation.
He shouldn't care though. I'm sure it's not the first time he has bought a DD item.
Yea, Sonys after that too and is going about it via Gakai and backwards compatibility via stream even with the PS4. Microsofts method is far more unscrupulous and is clearly trying to pigeon hole in some new anti consumer and DRM orientated measures via this cloud computing trojan horse.
Used from fabricated backlash where he used it in the Hryb Live Chat session topic.
Oh man...I'm dying...shhhhh....only clouds now rofl.
So what's their used game policy? What about lending games? Is the Eye in every box? Games install to the hard drive while playing, but do you need the disc to play afterwards? If not, is it online authentication, tied to account, or something else? Yoshida, asked about used games, said - after conferring with a PR handler TWICE - that it would play used games. Days later that was retracted with a 'we haven't made a decision, are looking at things' response instead. Nobody's really questioned it since. Not a peep about Gaikai or the other things Tretton called 'partly aspirational' after the unveil...nobody cared to ask what parts were or weren't coming?
That's what I don't get. There's this "TELL US NOW!" mentality on the Xbox reveal, but Sony has been quiet on the same details for three months with nary a peep from Kotaku/Joystiq/Destructoid about what's going on.
That's what I'm asking. Where's that pressure on Sony to answer some of these same questions?
IN 10 YEARS! lol just too funny.
Sell that BS to someone else that doesnt understand how the internet/games work. Cloud is the reason for a 24 hour check in? GIVEMEABREAK...
~Devil Trigger~
In favor of setting Muslim women on fire
Nuts
when my brother lived with me, we would play the same games on the same PS3, with different log-in accounts(not PSN)...
so you're telling me, my brother is suppose to pay for that game again?(potentially)
when my brother lived with me, we would play the same games on the same PS3, with different log-in accounts(not PSN)...
so you're telling me, my brother is suppose to pay for that game again?(potentially)
mightynine
Member
Game can play on any profile on the "home" box.
http://www.computerandvideogames.com/389080/xbox-360-life-to-date-sales-hit-759-million/
If these numbers are correct, Microsoft is basically throwing away half of it's userbase. Plus I'm sure many of those accounts are duplicates from the same person/console. I know I have like 4-5 accounts on my system.
Remember the chaos during the annual banning waves? Imagine this system in place and people having to replace their systems AND all their retail games.
It's just an entertainment device. If MS doesn't want to give straight answers and that leaves you without the answers you want what more do you need to hear for a frivolous, luxury product? Move on, it's not worth "getting to the bottom of it". The best way to hold them accountable is just to move on and not give them the satisfaction of a sale.
Altered Juice
Member
make that ass clap!
They must think that the number of pirates or people with chipped 360's is greater than the number of consumers they'd lose as a result of these new methods.
BobTheFork
Member
Well there goes the idea of them 'figuring out the specifics later'
They just keep confirming what we feared.
They just keep confirming what we feared.
UberTag
Member
At least Electronic Arts did us the courtesy of inventing a bunch of specific scenarios where the Cloud would be beneficial for SimCity even if all of it was BS.
Microsoft won't even do that. Instead they just go on about the infinite power of the cloud as if it's supposed to mean something great and beneficial when in reality it's only a check to qualify game purchase licenses and to data mine gamer user habits.
At least cite some gameplay application that only the Cloud can provide that we can potentially delude ourselves into thinking, "Yeah, my console probably can't do that on its own." Dazzle us with some persistent world so we go, "Holy cow! I need to get my Crackdown Online updates seamlessly. I'll never need to buy another game again. Thank you, Cloud!"
Booty, please.
This console is going to be totally irrelevant in so many parts of the world, including first world countries. All the stuff they're talking about with internet (Australia's sucks arse) and TV (also terrible with an expensive as hell cable monopoly and no access to Netflix et al) means it will be shitty and gimped here. I really wish they'd just come out and properly address everything.
This console is going to be totally irrelevant in so many parts of the world, including first world countries. All the stuff they're talking about with internet (Australia's sucks arse) and TV (also terrible with an expensive as hell cable monopoly and no access to Netflix et al) means it will be shitty and gimped here. I really wish they'd just come out and properly address everything.