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After E3, how do you feel about the future of VR?
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HomerSimpson-Man
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I got RE7 and Farpoint this year thus far and they are amazing.
Now I get to look forward to Skyrim, Doom, and Super Massive next VR game The Inpatient for PSVR, which is apparently part of the Until Dawn universe. These are all more full gaming experiences than the short, though awesome, VR experiences like Batman VR titles of last year.
Ace Combat and Gran Turismo has VR modes, so that's cool too.
I'm pretty excited.
Now I get to look forward to Skyrim, Doom, and Super Massive next VR game The Inpatient for PSVR, which is apparently part of the Until Dawn universe. These are all more full gaming experiences than the short, though awesome, VR experiences like Batman VR titles of last year.
Ace Combat and Gran Turismo has VR modes, so that's cool too.
I'm pretty excited.
SatoAilDarko
Member
Do you live in the US?
Lys Skygge
Member
I actually feel more excited for VR after this years E3. While last year we got bigger names such as Star Wars and Batman, they were still short experiences. This year is showing us full gaming experiences in VR.
Samanosuke Akechi
Member
I think it's the next 3D. Kinda cool for awhile but gets boring rather quickly.
Khaos Kontrol
Banned
Same as I felt before E3. No interest whatsoever.
CorporateClown
Member
I've yet to have someone dismissing vr convince me it's not because they're poor and can't afford it lol. Everyone I've demoed it to have been blown away.
Anyway, I thought some great stuff was shown off at e3; certainly enough to fill the gaps between major non-vr releases!
Anyway, I thought some great stuff was shown off at e3; certainly enough to fill the gaps between major non-vr releases!
Elfforkusu
Member
I'm not feeling great about it. Microsoft staying out of the game seems to confirm my fears about its near term prospects.
It'll have its place in the market. But so do racing wheels.
E: the other dagger is how good gear VR (and the like) is turning out to be for passive media...
It'll have its place in the market. But so do racing wheels.
E: the other dagger is how good gear VR (and the like) is turning out to be for passive media...
KatamariOnTheRocks
Member
VR is still the future, it's nothing like the 3D fad and everything is different this time.
The type of person stupid enough to doubt VR is the same type of person that used to consider HD resolution a gimmick/fad when that was "the next big thing"
michaelius
Banned
I assumed Sony will already Vita PSVR but they actually showed something so it felt better than expected - still not interested in buying any of current helmets.
wondermega
Member
I was kinda lukewarm to the VR presentations at E3. After the novelty and excitement of the last few years' shows, prior to legit hardware being released, this really felt kinda yawnworthy. Not bad, but far from thrilling - and I didn't see anything I was genuinely excited about.
Keep in mind I've had a PSVR about 6mo and a Vive half that time, and feel extremely well-served with content since then. The people who are shitting on it the most still probably haven't seen the upper echelon of what's on offer. Superhot VR on Vive gave me the same "oh my god" feelings I experienced when I first played Portal.
Keep in mind I've had a PSVR about 6mo and a Vive half that time, and feel extremely well-served with content since then. The people who are shitting on it the most still probably haven't seen the upper echelon of what's on offer. Superhot VR on Vive gave me the same "oh my god" feelings I experienced when I first played Portal.
I tried out Gran Turismo Sport VR at E3 and it was downright terrible. That's why Sony has barely talked about it.
There were so many jaggies on the screen that I thought I was playing GT1 on the PSone, I kid you not. It was horrible. Plus, in several turns the camera shifted to a different perspective automatically instead of staying with me. It was almost nauseating. It was a terrible experience.
The future of VR itself though? It's up in the air. If they can get more AAA titles on board and play well, it has a shot. If it's still mostly experiences and unknown indie titles then I have my doubts.
There were so many jaggies on the screen that I thought I was playing GT1 on the PSone, I kid you not. It was horrible. Plus, in several turns the camera shifted to a different perspective automatically instead of staying with me. It was almost nauseating. It was a terrible experience.
The future of VR itself though? It's up in the air. If they can get more AAA titles on board and play well, it has a shot. If it's still mostly experiences and unknown indie titles then I have my doubts.
Exploratory
Banned
Fuck Keenan Feldspar.
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
VR hardware continues to look like an expensive waste and VR software continues to look shallow and uninteresting.
There was a time when I thought that Sony could sustain PSVR just by finding developers that were working on 60FPS games, and convincing those people to support VR. Resident Evil 7 kinda changed my outlook though. If you play RE7 in VR, you're at a pretty obvious disadvantage. You feel more immersed, but image quality is absolutely terrible and the limitations on your movement and turning speed make you feel really gimped. I don't think that adding VR modes to popular games is really going to work, if the consequence is that players actually perform worse when they are using VR.
HomerSimpson-Man
Member
lol. God, I love Silicon Valley.
SMOK3Y
Generous Member
Car racing is the best case/use for VR though
Laieon
Member
Seems like it will continue to be a niche thing unless it somehow gets a lot more affordable.
I'd rather spend the money I could spend on VR stuff on something like a curved monitor or 4k TV.
I've yet to try VR, but I also feel like it would be instant headache material.
Could see this too. Feel like it would be good in education.
I'd rather spend the money I could spend on VR stuff on something like a curved monitor or 4k TV.
I've yet to try VR, but I also feel like it would be instant headache material.
Could see this too. Feel like it would be good in education.
ArtHands
Thinks buying more servers can fix a bad patch
Microsoft is actually releasing their headsets few months later from now on PC, and then the console next year.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Not even sure if PSVR is PS5 compatible. Why buy a hardware that'll only be relevant for another 2 years, with less interesting games being released as time progresses?
I think VR is great but the ultimate problem is that the game developers, in general, are yet to create a game that will deliver gameplay that is distinctive and unique to VR and cannot be received via normal TV/screen. The developers are using VR as an enhanced visual experiences rather than delivering a unique gameplay experience.
That's the problem and the ultimate reason why VR end up calling VR a potential fad or saying, "the technology is not ready yet" when the truth is the technology is no longer the issue, the issue is the mind of the developers. Games such as Thumper is a prime example of this, a visual enhancer but does nothing in respect to gameplay.
Right now, if I wanted to go VR then I will get it for racing and cockpit style games such as flight, mech and so on. Project Cars 2 on VR is one of the most incredible things that you can experience, especially when it rains.
That's the problem and the ultimate reason why VR end up calling VR a potential fad or saying, "the technology is not ready yet" when the truth is the technology is no longer the issue, the issue is the mind of the developers. Games such as Thumper is a prime example of this, a visual enhancer but does nothing in respect to gameplay.
Right now, if I wanted to go VR then I will get it for racing and cockpit style games such as flight, mech and so on. Project Cars 2 on VR is one of the most incredible things that you can experience, especially when it rains.
Drive Club VR looked terrible as well. If Sony doesn't have the guts to push VR for Gran Turismo, I'm not surprised to hear that GT Sport VR is similarly disappointing. We're probably only a few years away from VR HMDs that can support ultra HD resolutions, but that will require enthusiasts to sink even more money into the hobby.
I think the problem is that car racing games highlight all the worst image quality issues with VR. With an ever-changing horizon, graphics look very jaggy and swimmy.
why?, the current high end cards can run any VR game maxed without a single issue, they can even run up to 3x super sampling on most games
Why would Sony talk about GT Sport in their conference? They did not talk about games comming out soon in the conference by design (iirc, uncharted was the only game that was already announced, coming in 2017 and shown in press conference). GT Sport got a trailer at the end of preshow and that was all it was going to get.
It felt that they dedicated more time to VR announcements too, because last year they usually had nothing to show for VR or just mentioned it in passing (like with resident evil).
It felt that they dedicated more time to VR announcements too, because last year they usually had nothing to show for VR or just mentioned it in passing (like with resident evil).
statham
Member
I spent a $1200+ on 3d equipment, & (3dxl, glasses, movies and projector) and I love the 3d movies I have, but yea, this kinda feels its going that way.
HomerSimpson-Man
Member
I'm playing through RE7 now, IQ is terrible for outside but alright in the house. Control issues? I really don't have issues with movement, you can do all the same movements in VR, they were smart enough to include comfort settings to not take head move control from you so it does quick black outs, but I'm running in the game just fine, you can even still do the 180 turn and aiming even more precise with the head set than even I would with the dual shock. Plus RE7 is more inline with the older RE as you aren't constantly in a shooting action game like 4 to 6 were, it's a slower paced game to begin with. Being immerse makes a bigger difference in RE7. Even after playing it on a Pro didn't have the same effect on a tv afterwards, it was a cleaner looking I give it that.
Sounds like that the issue on the PlayStation side. Project Cars 2 using Vive was Godly.
RE7 works in VR, to be sure. But the boss fights are pretty rough. I thought the spider boss was particularly nasty, in an environment where turn/movement speed are somewhat limited.
Trolling/hate behavior....Mods please
It's entirely possible that Evolution Studios was forced to lower the internal rendering resolution to sub-HD levels just to keep Drive Club at 60FPS. I'm not really that much of a stickler for image quality, but the game just looked terrible in VR. Maybe part of the problem is that they had to take a game designed for 30FPS and somehow double its framerate.
I hope Polyphony Digital has a better solution for maximizing performance.
Hatefilled Vengeance
Member
Same as before: it has no future (at least not anytime in the next decade) and wish companies would stop wasting resources on it.
Robottiimu2000
Member
Steady as she goes.
I think it's an incredible technology, and is getting better by the day.
I also think that that GAF's general negative reception to it (taken statstically) is in many ways due to it being at odds with what is most popular here: consoles. That is mainstream products that are expected to sell several millions at launch in order to succeed, with huge advertising campaigns behind them, and large AAA productions.
I also think that that GAF's general negative reception to it (taken statstically) is in many ways due to it being at odds with what is most popular here: consoles. That is mainstream products that are expected to sell several millions at launch in order to succeed, with huge advertising campaigns behind them, and large AAA productions.
aorange999
Member
VR isn't going anywhere, meaning it's here to stay. This is just the pre-first generation. E3 showed exactly what most in the industry already know, there is no ROI in VR. If you have pre existing assets you can reuse them in VR, if you have a game in development you can probably tweak a couple off things to make it payable in VR otherwise noone is spending more than a few 100k.
Bookmark this thread and look back at it when the PS5 and next Xbox release and it will be a completely different picture than today. VR/AR is simply too immersive and game changing to disappear. 3d and screen based motion controls are the real gimmicks.
Bookmark this thread and look back at it when the PS5 and next Xbox release and it will be a completely different picture than today. VR/AR is simply too immersive and game changing to disappear. 3d and screen based motion controls are the real gimmicks.
ronaldthump
Member
Farpoint was 17th on NPD for May.
Goldfishking
Member
If don't get this. What about these headsets make them pre 1st generation. Or more specifically what are you expecting to change in terms of hardware for consumers and developers to suddenlyou care about vr?
EASTC0AST_GH05T
Member
I hope it succeeds but still could care less about it.