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[Biker19]

One line of code in Windows could, theoretically, break AMD compatibility. Theoretically. That would actually kill AMD. It's not likely to happen, but it's possible.

If Microsoft actually does this, then I hope that they go down real hard.

 

[Proposed Law]

two 360's duct-taped together confirmed.

 

[xk0sm0sx]

Damn the memory situation is like completely opposite from the PS3's situation, where it was extremely difficult to manage due to having to distribute between all the SPUs.

 

[User Name Here]

Looks almost identical to sleeping dogs on pc.

childplease
when I talk, just say "child please"

 

[Kuro]

What is the origin of this gif? I keep seeing it around.

From the RYSE multiplayer trailer. Game looks pretty bad for a next gen game at some points and don't even get me started on the gameplay.

 

[Pound_lb003]

Damn the memory situation is like completely opposite from the PS3's situation, where it was extremely difficult to manage due to having to distribute between all the SPUs.

If I am understanding this at all, you're spot on.

If I am not, you're dead wrong.

That's my two cents. Now can we wait for the damn consoles to come out before deciding which one is more powerful?

 

[Freki]

two 360's duct-taped together confirmed.

C'mon - there's no need for that...

If I am understanding this at all, you're spot on.

If I am not, you're dead wrong.

That's my two cents. Now can we wait for the damn consoles to come out before deciding which one is more powerful?

And what do we do in the meantime?

 

[paradise_circus]

Xbox1 obv cannot handle those sweet Crysis 3 relections, refractions, and caustics. (60fps for pro browsers)

Sad day, cryengine has such potential

that lighting looks totally wrong?

 

[GribbleGrunger]

Latte Owl coffee power!

 

[LiquidMetal14]

Latte Owl coffee power!

PS4 uses NURBS confirmed.

 

[Sub_Level]

Is this the Cell processor's final transformation?!

 

[Can Crusher]

holy shit google drive is fast, I download that file in about 10sec flat. O.O

Tried it, hell yeah ahahahaha

14 MB/s download.

 

[EdReedFan20]

You'll need to dig back through the thread and ask the original poster of that file. I just reupp'd the file cause their dropbox was being mangled.

edit : http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=77594009&postcount=877

Thanks!

 

[Fnord]

If Microsoft actually does this, then I hope that they go down real hard.

They won't. I was just saying it's theoretically possible (in response to someone else saying that there's nothing MS can do to hurt AMD).

 

[EdReedFan20]

Here is a press zip with a 1080p 60fps trailer (166MB). Well worth the download!

http://dropbox.com/s/p4zw211gfgzspcn/Media Package GamesCom_Press.zip

also:

Ok, enough shitting up the thread with Resogun. I'm done.

Are there any more of these media packages for the other trailers and videos?

 

[Piggus]

If I am understanding this at all, you're spot on.

If I am not, you're dead wrong.

That's my two cents. Now can we wait for the damn consoles to come out before deciding which one is more powerful?

We don't need to wait for them to come out. We already know which one is more powerful.

 

[Freki]

Is this the Cell processor's final transformation?!

PS4's architecture is based on x86

 

[Can Crusher]

Are there any more of these media packages for the other trailers and videos?

Yeah this is the kind of video quality I'm looking for.

 

[Replicant]

dafuq you smokin breh

WTF? Are those soldiers swimming in oil?

 

[StevieP]

Battlefield has been played on PS4:

Every publicly made video of BF4 has been PC footage. All footage seen by us has been just that. With PCs that are far, far more powerful than either console. PS4 controllers can be connected to high end PCs as well, to "fool" the person thinking they're playing on a PS4 (as Ubisoft did all E3 with all of their titles for example). I'm not saying that's what that particular journalist ran into, but I am saying that all public showings of BF4 have been on extremely powerful PCs.

 

[roMonster]

Eh....no.

I said, "gaw'damn" out loud when i saw this post.

 

[QaaQer]

One line of code in Windows could, theoretically, break AMD compatibility. Theoretically. That would actually kill AMD. It's not likely to happen, but it's possible.

Microsoft =/= Vladimir Putin

 

[George Claw M.D.]

So now Level 1 AMD support guys have access to heavily NDA protected documents about PS4 tech ... it makes sense to me ... and of course they can answer any question about that tech

A wild lherre appears!

This thread looks to be heating up!

And he's gone again...

Oh well. Good to see you're alive and lurking, lherre!

 

[IN&OUT]

Every publicly made video of BF4 has been PC footage. All footage seen by us has been just that. With PCs that are far, far more powerful than either console. PS4 controllers can be connected to high end PCs as well, to "fool" the person thinking they're playing on a PS4 (as Ubisoft did all E3 with all of their titles for example). I'm not saying that's what that particular journalist ran into, but I am saying that all public showings of BF4 have been on extremely powerful PCs.

what makes you sure about this? serious question

 

[Arkham]

That is some horrible water... wow!

I think you're just jelly!

Oh, wait. My mistake. It's the water. Sweet, sweet Ryseberry jelly.

Kidding aside, this is one game that has looked worse and worse since the initial unveiling. I have to admit that the multilayer looks fun to play though, but I was expecting more from a AAA flagship property.

 

[Log4Girlz]

Can someone explain to me in terms a child can understand what these means for Naughty Dog games?

 

[SenjutsuSage]

Nice water.

Water looks much better in this gamescom gameplay vid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=JE6gbF8JxBY#t=64

The water ripples seem pretty aggressive, but the water has some nice effects going on.

 

[Nafai1123]

Can someone explain to me in terms a child can understand what these means for Naughty Dog games?

With the power of hUMA Naughty Dog will be able to reach it's final form and all those who play it's game will become undying slaves for eternity.

Or something...

 

[Septimus Prime]

Latte Owl coffee power!

Latte Owl must be a conduit!

 

[StevieP]

what makes you sure about this? serious question

Here are what the Battlefield 4 PCs (for E3/press events/etc) are made of, of which you can certainly connect an Xbox One or PS4 controller with special drivers given to devs (for example, the Division/Watch Dogs are examples using the PS4 controller and most of Microsoft's E3 showings were on PCs with Xbox One controllers):

Those are 2 7990s in Crossfire, along with a high end 8-core AMD CPU. That isn't a PS4. It is orders of magnitude more powerful. This is what all of BF4 has been seen with afaik. That's why it always has the highest level of AA/AF/Post Processing in every piece of footage that you've seen.

 

[endresults]

Is this something you could even assign a number to, as in "extensive use of hUMA by a skilled development team could deliver x% performance increase vs. the same game/devs without hUMA"?

I don't even care about the console war at this point, I'm just wondering what it means for the console I'm dropping 400 frogs on.

 

[QaaQer]

Is this something you could even assign a number to, as in "extensive use of hUMA by a skilled development team could deliver x% performance increase vs. the same game/devs without hUMA"?

I don't even care about the console war at this point, I'm just wondering what it means for the console I'm dropping 400 frogs on.

I think the more interesting question is what this might mean for gameplay possibilities if the gpu and cpu can work on the same data. I really don't care a lot about 16X AA vs 8X or whatever.

 

[Skeff]

Can someone explain to me in terms a child can understand what these means for Naughty Dog games?

hUMA allows for certain unique and higher performing ways to do some processes that are common in games, Naughty Dog work exclusively with Sony so they will develop/use these "better" ways to do things to make even better games as they don't need to worry about non hUMA implementations. Basically it will allow Naughty Dogs games to be even better, because not only is the PS4 more powerful, it is more "efficient".

Spoiler

Some of the things I typed aren't exactly right but I believe this is a good interpretation for non-tech people to understand the implications of this. efficient was commenting on not needing to copy data from one memory location to another

 

[N.Domixis]

Is this huma thing for ps4 real or fake? lol that last part was not intended for this thread

 

[childplease]

Battlefield has been played on PS4:




--Sid Shuman

Still played on pcs.

You can play pc games with any controller you want.

 

[Massa]

Still played on pcs.

You can play pc games with any controller you want.

You really think EA is trying to fool Sony people with their behind doors demos?

child, please.

 

[StevieP]

You really think EA is trying to fool Sony people with their behind doors demos?

child, please.

You would only think otherwise if you had a very short memory.

 

[childplease]

You really think EA is trying to fool Sony people with their behind doors demos?

child, please.

Yes .

They are trying to sell their game to the public and show the game off as best as it can.
This is why BF4 along with most "next gen" games are being ran in the background using high end pcs.

 

[Bailers]

Can someone explain to me in terms a child can understand what these means for Naughty Dog games?

It means Elena is going to be gaw'dayum smoking.

 

[BlazingDarkness]

Edit: Couldn't tell if there was reflection in the Ryse video/gif, but there is in ICO, so bad comparison. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hNBHtZshYk

The water actually looks better there than in Ryse.

 

[XtremeXpider]

dafuq you smokin breh

Why don't you say it is from a multiplayer video?

 

[Famassu]

But wouldn't it make sense for developers to develop games for the weaker hardware? If the architectures are identical it should be easy to port games, right? So I would imagine they would develop for the xbone and port. So for third party games at least I don't imagine seeing significant improvements on the ps4 version. With development costs the way they are I can't see developers spending significantly more time on the ps4 version to improve visuals.

No. Because PC, PS4 and Xbone are so similar, they can make everything for the strongest platform and quite easily downport from there.

 

[BigJoeGrizzly]

So when will we actually SEE all these graphical advantages the PS4 has? I keep hearing that the console is noticeably more powerful, and yet when looking at the games, not ONE has looked graphically impossible to mimic on the competitor's console. "Just wait a couple years and the differences will show themselves." If the graphical hardware differences are so drastic, why is it taking several years to finally see differences? I feel like Sony has the best engineered (and more powerful) console, but for some reason they simply REFUSE to show it. SHOW me why you have the most powerful console Sony. SHOW me that your console is capable of things the competition can only dream of doing.

 

[QaaQer]

So when will we actually SEE all these graphical advantages the PS4 has?

I'm guessing once the consoles are actually released and we know whats a bullshot and whats not? Just a guess though.

 

[phosphor112]

Is this huma thing for ps4 real or fake? and why was the op Banned? I'm new here so don't have an idea why.

What? He wasn't banned.

 

[MercuryLS]

So when will we actually SEE all these graphical advantages the PS4 has? I keep hearing that the console is noticeably more powerful, and yet when looking at the games, not ONE has looked graphically impossible to mimic on the competitor's console. "Just wait a couple years and the differences will show themselves." If the graphical hardware differences are so drastic, why is it taking several years to finally see differences? I feel like Sony has the best engineered (and more powerful) console, but for some reason they simply REFUSE to show it. SHOW me why you have the most powerful console Sony. SHOW me that your console is capable of things the competition can only dream of doing.

We haven't seen Naughty Dog's or SSM's games yet.

 

[FlutterPuffs]

So when will we actually SEE all these graphical advantages the PS4 has? I keep hearing that the console is noticeably more powerful, and yet when looking at the games, not ONE has looked graphically impossible to mimic on the competitor's console. "Just wait a couple years and the differences will show themselves." If the graphical hardware differences are so drastic, why is it taking several years to finally see differences? I feel like Sony has the best engineered (and more powerful) console, but for some reason they simply REFUSE to show it. SHOW me why you have the most powerful console Sony. SHOW me that your console is capable of things the competition can only dream of doing.

Dude.

The console isn't even out yet. The SDK is probably only being finalized.

 

[Reg]

Yes .

They are trying to sell their game to the public and show the game off as best as it can.
This is why BF4 along with most "next gen" games are being ran in the background using high end pcs.

child please

 

[super-heated plasma]

A miserable pile of secrets?

lol. nice.

 

[IN&OUT]

So when will we actually SEE all these graphical advantages the PS4 has? I keep hearing that the console is noticeably more powerful, and yet when looking at the games, not ONE has looked graphically impossible to mimic on the competitor's console. "Just wait a couple years and the differences will show themselves." If the graphical hardware differences are so drastic, why is it taking several years to finally see differences? I feel like Sony has the best engineered (and more powerful) console, but for some reason they simply REFUSE to show it. SHOW me why you have the most powerful console Sony. SHOW me that your console is capable of things the competition can only dream of doing.

PS4 has a clear advantage over X1 specs wise, lets just wait for the games to roll out (Multiplat to make comparison easier) then we can talk.