Forsaken82
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Content is not the area that Planescape needs fixing. I am always finding new things in each play through.
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Baldur's Gate: Enhanced Edition first "screens" [Up: X-Platform Multi] PC/iPad/Mac
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Content is not the area that Planescape needs fixing. I am always finding new things in each play through.
toddhunter
Member
Why would you think that?
Minsc
Gold Member
I wonder if anyone posting about GemRB has actually used it? Videos I have seen have it running at way less than 100% speed, and controls no where near as nice as what this is said to be like. People say you can already play it on an iPad like it works perfectly, with no problems, but I don't believe that is the case, correct me if I'm wrong.
I also don't think GemRB can ever work with GameCenter for multiplayer can it? Since you have to jailbreak, or can you still use GameCenter jailbroken? Reminds me of the people who put fallout on their phone via dosbox to have it run at like 2fps... it's neat to have, but there's a big difference between an official app and some emulator or unofficial port.
So did you miss the title to the thread?
So did you miss the title to the thread?
Nope, but where does it confirm that it is coming to pc? Their website doesn't mention platforms.
Nope, but where does it confirm that it is coming to pc? Their website doesn't mention platforms.
It was confirmed last week when this was announced.
toddhunter
Member
I've played around with it on an android tablet, same concept. No it isn't perfect, but the point is given access to the source and so on, you can see how it could be very good without too much improvement. When I say 'it works' I mean as a concept of having a rpg like that on a tablet. This contrasts with something like a fps on the ipad, which just isn't fun. You can do it, but it never feels right, this will work.
If they have already solved performance, then it is only UI tweaks and we are good to go.
Yes. Which is why this is good.
Nope, but where does it confirm that it is coming to pc? Their website doesn't mention platforms.
If you missed it a good summary at:
http://www.escapistmagazine.com/new...eals-More-About-Baldurs-Gate-Enhanced-Edition
So much for "Enhanced Edition" :|. Like others have mentioned, this looks exactly the same as Baldur's Gate with the TuTu mod applied to run it in the updated Infinity Engine of Baldur's Gate II. I have an iPad 2 so I'm curious how it'll play. I think it'll do fine though, dragging to select characters, tapping for movement/attacks, a big button for pausing and larger buttons for spells/special abilities.
TouchMyBox
Member
Finally, the iPad's weird 4:3 aspect ratio is justified.
Psy-Phi
Member
Wha? I feel like I may not understand Englsih properly (my native language) to read such a thing and come away with the impression that you're not being facetious.
Welcome to have your own opinion of course, I'm just a bit taken aback as I've always felt it's been one of the finest examples of writing and plot in a video-game to this day.
Weird? Is paper weird? (not quite 4:3, but you can easily see why the iPad has the screen ratio it does. Honestly, for work, I'm sick of the 16:9 monitors. All 16:9 is good for is entertainment, and even then...I think isometric games benefit from a 4:3 resolution just for the sake of a more symmetrical views pace -- personal preference of course, but there's something weird about seeing more to the 'left and right' and not as much 'up and down'. I'd be interested in someone releasing a 1:1 ratio monitor honestly).
16:10 is the best resolution. For everything. Forever.
DJ_Lae
Member
The initial announcement of a tweaked PC version was somewhat exciting, but this is fantastic.
Great game for the iPad without suffering from the touch screen - and now I'm thinking about a whole host of other mouse-based games from that era and before that would work well on the iPad as well.
Like Ultima VII.
Great game for the iPad without suffering from the touch screen - and now I'm thinking about a whole host of other mouse-based games from that era and before that would work well on the iPad as well.
Like Ultima VII.
toddhunter
Member
I know it is not a popular opinion, but I found the whole thing incredible boring. I appreciate the attempt at providing better dialogue, but for me they failed and it just came across as a really poor fantasy story with characters I had no interest in despite the interesting setting.
All personal opinion of course, I recognise that most fans really liked it so I am in the minority. I did love BG for instance.
My second favourite game ever but I don't think it would work without major changes to the inventory system (which could be done). To be honest it was pretty fiddly even with a mouse.
Would be neat to see it on an iPad. But as far as a visual upgrade, Torment still looks damn good, especially at high resolutions where you get more screen-space.
I don't think you'd say that if you played the PC version at that resolution. Your character and UI is far too tiny. They'd have to either redraw everything or rebuild the engine to allow for zooming. Since they've already talked about how the new version will play nice with existing mods, there's no chance of this.
In my experience, 1280x800 is perfect for these games.
platypotamus
Member
Yeah, it IS awesome, and I don't want the system to change or anything, I just would be bummed out if the new character is cool, but leaves my party so I don't get to experience their awesomeness... and I know myself well enough to know I couldn't be evil enough to keep a baddy happy in my party
The enhanced editions will probably include modifications that fix up the game like mods have in the past.
All those games still look amazing. The only real thing they leave to be desired is how everyone looks the same.
Minsc
Gold Member
Nonsense, the iPad EE will support on the fly zooming (pinch to zoom), it says so right in the write-up from the OP! Nothing about the iPad 3 res should be an issue, UI elements should remain constant while the main game can scale bigger and smaller at will
I hope that makes it to the PC version too, would be great to use the mouse wheel to zoom in and out, and have the UI stay a logical size and all the type also stay a good size.
Yup, and they've said they have interest in keeping the EE's mod-friendly.
He is right if they dont include many of the standard mods youll be playing a gimped version.
You still can't strike no buttons and no mods is a huge deal for these games.
As someone who has played these games a lot, I feel like most mods are for minor conveniences/fixes, which are far less important than the plot and content of the game. I've only ever really used the widescreen mods and maybe a fix pack; I think it hardly counts as gimped. Compare to something like Morrowind.
No infinite stacks, no sale.
SquiddyCracker
Banned
Okay, those are some good points.
I withdraw my previous stance, and will take a wait&see approach to this.
Ninja Scooter
Member
Looks great. Hopefully others follow suit. Would love to see stuff like Diablo and Xcom. The iPad is becoming my new favorite game console.
Just to name a few:
Ascension
Tactics
TUTU
Dungeon Be Gone
Kelsey
Redemption
Soulafein
Widescreen
Banter Packs
Unfinished Business
Quest Pack
Saerileth
BGII Fixpack
Unmodded version is a gimped version.
Also you cant ctrl+J all around the map or change movement speed without access to the config file.
toddhunter
Member
Gimped version is exactly what I played through. Still the best game ever.
Games like Oblivion and Skyrim need mods to make them at least somewhat interesting or fun to play. These games have no such issues beyond a couple of tweaks that can be easily included.
funkystudent
Member
I hope they make the text readable at higher resolutions.
that text looks TINY.
that text looks TINY.
I still don't get it. BG2 runs since 2010 on android and iOS, thanks to GemRB.
Maybe the controls are "nicer"... mh.
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I see. I'm not alone.
Maybe the controls are "nicer"... mh.
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I see. I'm not alone.
Felix Lighter
Member
I still don't get it. BG2 runs since 2010 on android and iOS, thanks to GemRB.
Maybe the controls are "nicer"... mh.
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I see. I'm not alone.
In all of the videos I've seen of GemRB running, it didn't look like it performed very well.
I remember being excited at the idea but it never looked like it was worth playing in the form that I saw. That was awhile ago though.
Calling BG2 mods "tweaks" is a huge understatement.
I agree with you that Skyrim needs mods to be a fun game (not even fun with mods to me) and that BG2 is still a great game without mods. But that doesn't change the fact that the unmodded version is inferior.
toddhunter
Member
Yes but the point is it isn't nearly as important. Chocolate cake with sprinkles has been modded to be better than vanilla chocolate cake (if you follow me...) but chocolate cake is still great so it isn't really too big a deal.
Modding Skyrim from a turd sandwich to a peanut butter one where the peanut butter isn't really well spread but it is still ok and will do for lunch is a different story.
Anyway sounds like the intend to support mods anyway, so everyone wins. Either way with or without mods it is still the best game I have played.
The NPCs/quest/restoration mods always struck me as pretty rubbish and amateur when I tried them. IIRC the banter pack is fan dialogue too? Which is also not interesting to me. Dungeon Be Gone is straight up skipping content; hard to argue for this being the 'definitive version.' Fixpack, Widescreen and TUTU are all covered by the EE and are just tweaks.
So that leaves us with Ascension and Tactics. Ascension is pretty great and they've talked about maybe incorporating it into EE. Tactics is a matter of personal preference but it's not my thing.
I can understand that you like these things a lot more than I do, but I think it's pretty hard to make the case that these mods constitute an obviously superior version that people would be crazy not to play. The core gameplay, story and etc. from the original game is so much more important to the experience.
Personally, I just found most of the mods for BGII to be invasive and annoying rather than adding quality content. Only the various tweaks/fixes have ever had a lot of value to me.
I honestly don't know how anyone even enjoyed the game at release without those mods.
SerArthurDayne
Member
Oh god. Please include this in the base version. Most annoying aspect of the game. I'll also take a magical bag of holding if you want to throw it out there.
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toddhunter
Member
People were simpler back in those days. When you had to walk for 10 miles to get the batteries for your motorised computing device to play the game you appreciated it more. Didn't need no fancy mods from the future. In fact there were no time machines in those days so you didn't even know about the mods that might be created. All you had was the game that was created.
One of my friends in high school beat Baldur's Gate and Baldur's Gate 2 without pausing because he didn't know hitting the spacebar paused the game. When i told him that it blew his mind.
thelurkinghorror
Member
I still don't get it. BG2 runs since 2010 on android and iOS, thanks to GemRB.
Maybe the controls are "nicer"... mh.
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I see. I'm not alone.
GemRb is not an official App on stores, you have to jailbreak your iOs device to use it. I don't want to do that, and don't forget this is an enhanced version and specially configured for a tablet.