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[Nirolak]

Well, this is disappointing. The DLC is $6.99.

£32.99 is a lot of money for a Season Pass. You know this, I know this, and Warner knows this, or at the very least, it does now after the initial announcement of its pricey post-launch DLC plan was met (rightfully) with much incredulity.

...

And as a first taste of what value we can expect from the Season Pass, the hour-long experience doesn't do much to help Warner's case.

Batgirl herself controls almost exactly like her mentor. She's essentially Batman on a budget - packing explosive gel, a line launcher, grappling hook, Batarangs and a remote hacking device. And that's about it, really. There are no upgrades, no new gadgets, and no unique vehicles or skills.

While the Harley Quinn pre-order Arkham Story didn't have any cutscenes, it at least had a unique look that played up to Harley's character; Batgirl's HUD is just the same as Batman's, only recoloured slightly. And Quinn's Psychosis Mode actually managed to cleverly integrate a little bit of backstory in along with the gameplay, by way of emphasised scrawlings like "God I'm so alone" marked out on walls in what amounted to her version of Detective Vision. Batgirl has no such luck. She has a dozen lines, tops, and most of those are spent worrying about her Dad or Batman, or exchanging awkward, cliched back-and-forths with a quietly lovesick Tim Drake.

Robin will show up a few times throughout the mission, having uncovered a bomb, and you'll have to race across the site, take down a handful of foes side-by-side and then stop the bomb from going off, all on a timer. But all told, your time with Babs will be up within an hour, culminating in a QTE-heavy boss fight between Batgirl, Robin, the Joker and Harley. The highlight of the entire experience, for me, was seeing Harley Quinn in her original Animated Series outfit. I would have switched teams if I could have.

It's not bad, exactly - it's functional and does exactly what it says on the tin; it just feels a wasted opportunity. There's no AR Challenge Map, for example, so the character model is confined to this one short story experience. The story is about as basic as they come - a shame given the strength of some of Arkham Knight's finer moments - and given how they've chosen to frame this version of Barbara Gordon as a two dimensional doting daughter and romantic interest for Robin, I can't help but think a story focusing on the Cassandra Cain incarnation of Batgirl would have been far, far more interesting. As it stands, Batgirl fans are likely to be the ones most disappointed by this offering.

Source: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2015-07-15-arkham-knight-batgirl-dlc

 

[AgentOtaku]

Sigh...

 

[Stone Ocean]

All the character DLCs sound extremely disappointing. What the hell happened?

 

[Diablohead]

Sounds about the same as harley quinn's revenge, that was about an hour long... and 22 minutes to speedrun.

 

[Real Hero]

Isn't the Harley dlc the same? All the negative news about this game has put me off playing it

 

[Vex_]

All the character DLCs sound extremely disappointing. What the hell happened?

The Ark Origins team happened.

 

[Nirolak]

All the character DLCs sound extremely disappointing. What the hell happened?

I can understand a pre-order bonus being pretty sparse, but at $10 each of the Dishonored DLC entries were 4-5 hours long or even a fair bit longer if you went for completionist, which had some nifty incentives and well designed puzzles.

I use that as an example since it's also an action adventure type game.

 

[giancarlo123x]

Isn't the Harley dlc the same? All the negative news about this game has put me off playing it

That one is about ten minutes. It's literally 3 or 4 challenge rooms connected together.

 

[DNAbro]

I feel sorry for the people who paid for it. Type of game where you wait for the GOTY edition.

 

[Waylon Drums]

The Ark Origins team happened.

I'll never understand the hate for that game.

 

[RoKKeR]

Another reason to wait for the inevitable "all-DLC" version of this game.

 

[darkwing]

most expensive DLCs? relative to the playing time

 

[Ninjimbo]

I'll probably still get it lol.

 

[zackmorris]

Isn't the Harley dlc the same? All the negative news about this game has put me off playing it

No reason not to play the game, but buying a season pass for any game at this point is just a horrible idea.

 

[RPGCrazied]

$7 for an hour? No thank you.

 

[Corpekata]

This season pass is sounding less and less like it is justifying its' 40 dollar price tag every time new info comes out about it.

 

[Vex_]

I'll never understand the hate for that game.

I don't hate the game for what it is. It just isn't a very good batman game.

 

[leng jai]

I was expecting amazing DLC after I looked at the ridiculously overpriced season pass.

 

[Conkerkid11]

I can understand a pre-order bonus being pretty sparse, but at $10 each of the Dishonored DLC entries were 4-5 hours long or even a fair bit longer if you went for completionist, which had some nifty incentives and well designed puzzles.

I use that as an example since it's also an action adventure type game.

It always makes sense to me to compare the value of DLC to the actual game. If the game cost me $60, and the DLC is $10, then the DLC should provide me with content equal to at least a sixth of the full game.

The Witcher 3 looks to be one of the only current gen games I know of that lives up to this promise.

I don't even want to know how all the fighting games get away with what they pull.

Edit: Oh, you meant this was a pre-order bonus? Not up-to-date on all the Arkham Knight DLC. Just know I'll be avoiding the season pass after I haven't heard anything good about previous Arkham franchise DLC.

 

[Real Hero]

No reason not to play the game, but buying a season pass for any game at this point is just a horrible idea.

I actually don't think I can yet, is it back on steam?

 

[backflip10019]

DLC just needs to die. I can't recall the last time I had a positive experience with any sort of DLC.

 

[privitsan02]

I feel sorry for the people who paid for it. Type of game where you wait for the GOTY edition.

Basically what I did with Arkham Asylum and Arkham City. The tradition will continue here with me, not because they are bad games but the value in content of the GOTY edition in sale is way too good in comparison to its vanilla release. Besides there are other games I'm playing on my PS4 at the moment anyway.

 

[Ridley327]

The Ark Origins team happened.

The Harley Quinn story DLC was Rocksteady, and that was terrible.

For reasons I can't understand, the Batman developers seem incapable of doing compelling one-shot DLC expansions, despite it being based on a property well known for one-shots.

 

[antitrop]

FORTY DOLLAR SEASON PASS

 

[tilomite!]

I wasn't expecting much for $7.

 

[RPGCrazied]

DLC just needs to die. I can't recall the last time I had a positive experience with any sort of DLC.

The Fallout 3 and New Vegas DLC's were good, so was the Shivering Isle for Oblivion, although that was more like an expansion pack.

 

[j-wood]

Glad I didn't buy the season pass. Crazy this is only an hour.

 

[Triggerhappytel]

All the character DLCs sound extremely disappointing. What the hell happened?

Warner being the worst publisher in the industry for DLC happened.

 

[Shig]

I don't hate the game for what it is. It just isn't a very good batman game.

It's a lot better one than Arkham Knight.

 

[Razgriz-Specter]

QTE heavy fight...
yeah no.

 

[semiconscious]

All the character DLCs sound extremely disappointing. What the hell happened?

1) extraordinary success
2) batmobile

the first guided warner's decisions. the second, rocksteady's. combined, they've produced a 'unique' batman experience ...

 

[GameSeeker]

This is why it's smart to wait for the GOTY edition will all the DLC for $40 or less.

Good things come to those with patience.

 

[BatDan]

More incentive to wait for the "Complete" edition.

 

[Shmeagatory94]

Was thinking about getting this but now I dont think I will ): Hopefully the next story DLC offers more content. Shame, I was pretty excited about the Batgirl DLC.

 

[Savitar]

Sounds like all the guest characters that you can play in these games suck and are short.

It's a pattern.

 

[Dryk]

I can understand a pre-order bonus being pretty sparse, but at $10 each of the Dishonored DLC entries were 4-5 hours long or even a fair bit longer if you went for completionist, which had some nifty incentives and well designed puzzles.

I use that as an example since it's also an action adventure type game.

At a guess. Arkane had something to prove, Rocksteady (thinks it) doesn't.

 

[Drakeon]

This is why I don't buy season passes.

 

[backflip10019]

The Fallout 3 and New Vegas DLC's were good, so was the Shivering Isle for Oblivion, although that was more like an expansion pack.

True, though even the most recent of those was half a decade ago. I'm increasingly jaded against DLC with all of the super bullshit tactics publishers are pulling lately. Plus the fact that none have really been truly great in this console generation.

 

[Johndoey]

It's a lot better one than Arkham Knight.

Nonsense and considering the overall reception of the game reality would agree with me.

 

[SpacePirate Ridley]

Next video for Jim?

This could have been included perfectly in the game as a side mission, in fact it reminds me to the Ciri flashbacks, and those are already in the game and probably have more story to them than batgirl dlc lol

DLC just needs to die. I can't recall the last time I had a positive experience with any sort of DLC.

You havent played The Witcher 3? DLCs like this are being given fore free, and then theres 2 meaty expansions that you can buy in a season pass that doesnt even cost as much as the arkham knight one, or, like lots of people are doing, wait for their release and then buy them.

 

[Corpekata]

This is why it's smart to wait for the GOTY edition will all the DLC for $40 or less.

Good things come to those with patience.

I mean, if you want to base your playing time around the best value for utterly mediocre DLC, sure.

 

[YianGaruga]

Time to skip future WB games until they fix their shit

 

[backflip10019]

You havent played The Witcher 3? DLCs like this are being given fore free, and then theres 2 meaty expansions that you can buy in a season pass that doesnt even cost as much as the arkham knight one, or, like lots of people are doing, wait for their release and then buy them.

Haven't gotten that far in the Witcher 3 yet. I guess I should've said paid DLC should die. Maybe the Witcher's expansions will turn me around on it.

 

[Lakitu]

Sounds similar to the Harley episode which was hugely disappointing aswell.

 

[Nori Chan]

I feel sorry for the people who paid for it. Type of game where you wait for the GOTY edition.

But the main game happens to be one of the best games I have ever played.

and if you wait for the goty you'l be disappointed in the dlc...so I don't understand what you mean

 

[NCR Redslayer]

That's more than you'd hope but less than you'd expect.

 

[RiccochetJ]

WB has quickly taken the lead for the title of "Shittiest Publisher of the Year."

Some of the things they've been in charge of so far this year has been absolutely astounding at the level of bullshit they've pushed out to consumers.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

I don't hate the game for what it is. It just isn't a very good batman game.

Its a great Batman game.

Technical issues aside.

 

[Stone Ocean]

I can understand a pre-order bonus being pretty sparse, but at $10 each of the Dishonored DLC entries were 4-5 hours long or even a fair bit longer if you went for completionist, which had some nifty incentives and well designed puzzles.

I use that as an example since it's also an action adventure type game.

Wasn't the Revenge of Harley DLC at that price as well? And that one was terrible and short.

After the Origins Freeze DLC I was kinda hoping WB Montreal / Rocksteady would step up their shit, not scale it down.

 

[darkwing]

looks like Witcher 3 continues to be the GOTY