Spire said:Vigilant Walrus is Gaf's true renewable hilarity source.
DaBuddaDa said:There are three separate development studios that work on Call of Duty: Sledgehammer, Treyarch and Infinity Ward. They have nothing to do with each other and work on separate games in the series. They're all owned by Activision.
The More You Know *woosh*
Infinity Ward has, over the past year, lost 25-35% of its original members, but the studio is still running and rebuilding.Zaptruder said:dammit. I thought it was only two and that infinity ward had dissolved. We're screwed.
Vigilant Walrus said:I don't Hate COD. But yeah, I see the paradox of what I am getting angry at. If you're the marked leader you could step up with your balls and guide the marked in a good direction instead of stalling.
Know what I mean?
I dunno. I feel like the sales are deserved just because it's obvious how much effort went into putting a bunch of content into the game, even if there are apparently some technical problems. I find it weird how forgiving people are of games like Fallout, where there are bugs and glitches all over the place, but when Call of Duty has some framerate issues THIS IS SOME BULLSHIT TREYARCH SUCKS
If you're the market leader you have no incentive to change much unless sales start dropping and in this case it's actually rising!Vigilant Walrus said:I don't Hate COD. But yeah, I see the paradox of what I am getting angry at. If you're the marked leader you could step up with your balls and guide the marked in a good direction instead of stalling.
Know what I mean?
Its because RPGs (especially open world ones... and especially rpgs that are heavy with dialogue branches and different factions that takes place in an open world) are on a whole other level when it comes to complexity.Htown said:I dunno. I feel like the sales are deserved just because it's obvious how much effort went into putting a bunch of content into the game, even if there are apparently some technical problems. I find it weird how forgiving people are of games like Fallout, where there are bugs and glitches all over the place, but when Call of Duty has some framerate issues THIS IS SOME BULLSHIT TREYARCH SUCKS.
acm2000 said:and CeX 2nd hand copies update...
(available online)
x360 - 123
ps3 - 71
wii - 6 :lol
i think this is a good indication of platform split
Popularity doesnt exactly ruin my day. Its just that the gaming industry is perhaps the largest "Me too!" industry in any entertainment medium. If one game genre or style of genre you dont like becomes popular you can be certain that the games you do like will suffer because resources will shift to accommodate what makes more money.gundamzeta209 said:I can't believe what i'm reading here in this thread. You are all acting like a some slacked jawed hipsters. Does something's popularity ruin your day?
Vigilant Walrus said:In Japan they are seeing this news, thinking "wtf... all those games are the same. good that we have Dynasty Warrior!"
But seriously, this is... Disturbing. I dont own the game yet, but it looks really weak.. What new does the game bring? I havent played Reach, but that series plays differently. Halo feels different. COD and everything else feels the same in pace, and gameplay time.
The fast death/ and fast respawn mentality, has reduced the aspect of dying/losing the game, to nothing, and thus suspense and a want to not die is removed, as the punishment for dying is good. if there is no risk, there is no reward. COD has become a cumbersome feeling of fuck.
COD4 was sorta fun, but I have not enjoyed this series to its fulliest since the first one, but even WW2 was getting stale back then, and already there, in the series inception the game rode on the fucking laurels of Allied Assault and everything-wanna-be-saving-private-ryan. ffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuu
God, I want a true sequel to Battlefield 2 so bad. I am so sick of this shit.
COD lacks sophistication, and balance. There is no healthy ego system. its a bundle of michael bay type narrative shit, but without the campy fun, pulled down by a majestic military porn setting, that takes its aces from war films through boring scripted events to hide the simplistic AI, respawning enemies, lack of balanced weapons, lack of authentic non-cheap difficulty(demons souls, ninja gaiden...) and just a peerless boring bunch of linear levels with many invisible walls.
The lack of imagination is disturbing. any setting has to be more fun than this modern crap. I'll say that Black Ops looks more interesting than the last two, as they at least swap the goddam era for something else, but my fiery heart is further enraged when I see that we're getting to ride down a stream in vietnam with more goddam vietnam rock music. As the klichee was not klichee enough. FFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Curses! But so what? So what? The world would be wrong if this mainstream game - This is the X factor/American Idol of video games. COD is Jonas Brothers and Lady Gaga. COD is Transfomers.
But I wanted this to be more like a high quality mainstream affair... Sure Dark Knight/Inception are overrated as crap in some areas. But if COD had that place in the gaming world, instead of the place of boring irelevance. Then the world would be a tiny bit better place.
EA and BF3 will not save us. It will not be the return to form for them. They will look inwards and at what COD is doing. That's what they are doing wrong. The last thing they should be doing is looking at COD.
I think I will buy Black Ops, but the multiplayer does not sound like anything, I was hoping for. Why are we going backwards? Stuffing everyone throat with modes, guns and weapons and just shit you dont need... What you need is fewer things that work. Less is more GODDAMIT. LESS IS MORE.
Give me 3 guns that are fun to use, rather than 30 mediocre once.
water_wendi said:Popularity doesnt exactly ruin my day. Its just that the gaming industry is perhaps the largest "Me too!" industry in any entertainment medium. If one game genre or style of genre you dont like becomes popular you can be certain that the games you do like will suffer because resources will shift to accommodate what makes more money.
gundamzeta209 said:I can't believe what i'm reading here in this thread. You are all acting like a some slacked jawed hipsters. Does something's popularity ruin your day?
I think I know who's complaining. It's the weabos. they're Mad because COD sells and their precious Atlus game doesn't. JRPGs suck and nobody important likes Anime anymore. Sorry to break it to you.
there are a lot of weird people on Neogaf. it can't be that serious. A popular video game is not an Analog to Pop music or popcorn summer films. Video games are a completely different medium of entertainment.
Games need to be fun or they aren't going to sell. Movies can get away with sucking if there's enough hype. A pop star can suck a singing if she looks good. If a game doesn't look fun or it doesn't have an established name, it's not going to sell. I don't care how much marketing or hype is involved. it's not going to sell.
rvy said:Meaning, gamers don't care about resolutions, framerates and buying unfinished products. Good job, gamers.
this just proves that the wii version is the best version because no one is trading in their copiesacm2000 said:and CeX 2nd hand copies update...
(available online)
x360 - 123
ps3 - 71
wii - 6 :lol
i think this is a good indication of platform split
And both of those were dumbed down versions of what came before it.Sho_Nuff82 said:BioWare has gone in the direction it did because of the success of KOTOR. It and Morrowind made Western RPGs popular on consoles.
Wrpgs with any kind of complexity or depth are very rare. Even when a game like Dragon Age is Biowares most successful release to date, they go the route of dumbing down the sequel.Mass Effect is a natural extension of KOTOR, ME2 was a step back as an RPG but fixed everything that was broken about the gunplay. Haven't played Dragon Age to judge. It's not as if traditional WRPGs aren't being made at all, isn't The Witcher a pretty big hit?
In Japan:Vigilant Walrus said:In Japan they are seeing this news, thinking "wtf... all those games are the same. good that we have Dynasty Warrior!"
Chinner said:this just proves that the wii version is the best version because no one is trading in their copies
water_wendi said:Popularity doesnt exactly ruin my day. Its just that the gaming industry is perhaps the largest "Me too!" industry in any entertainment medium. If one game genre or style of genre you dont like becomes popular you can be certain that the games you do like will suffer because resources will shift to accommodate what makes more money.
water_wendi said:Popularity doesnt exactly ruin my day. Its just that the gaming industry is perhaps the largest "Me too!" industry in any entertainment medium. If one game genre or style of genre you dont like becomes popular you can be certain that the games you do like will suffer because resources will shift to accommodate what makes more money.
water_wendi said:If i was at Respawn id be worried. The people that buy CoD care only about the name. Its like the Wests version of Gundam.
I doubt EA can do that.NHale said:Not really. I bet EA will make a huge marketing campaign for the game starting with "From the makers of COD4: Modern Warfare and Modern Warfare 2". That brand recognition is so strong that this will be enough to create enough awareness to make Respawn game a huge success. Unless they make a futuristic game...
Has nothing to do with hipster-ish elitism. Has to do with selfishness. i want games that push things forward and build off of what came before. i dont want games that are dumbed down because some guy didnt buy a game in a genre he doesnt like to begin with.gundamzeta209 said:Games aren't movies or music. Games aren't high art, and they don't have the possibility to be high art. I don't see where this hispter-ish elitism comes from. There's no foundation for it to begin with.
i doubt the eventual Respawn game is even going to be a blip on the radar saleswise.NHale said:Not really. I bet EA will make a huge marketing campaign for the game starting with "From the makers of COD4: Modern Warfare and Modern Warfare 2". I wouldn't be surprised if that sentence will be on the cover of the game.
The brand recognition is so strong that this single step will be enough to create enough awareness to make Respawn game a huge success. Unless they make a futuristic game...
Activision will sue them for telling the truth? :lolTheOddOne said:I doubt EA can do that.
Call of Motherfucking Duty brah. Activison can do no wrong.rvy said:Meaning, gamers don't care about resolutions, framerates and buying unfinished products. Good job, gamers.
You talkin' about Sledgehammer games?R2D4 said:Maybe they will get a third developer even shittier than Treyarch and start pumping these out every 6 months.
TheOddOne said:You talkin' about Sledgehammer games?
TheOddOne said:I doubt EA can do that.
water_wendi said:i doubt the eventual Respawn game is even going to be a blip on the radar saleswise.
Zep said:Rainbow Six is still the better shooter.
Jtyettis said:You know whatever happened to Rainbow Six. Was pretty big early on this generation. Kind of dropped off the map entirely. I still want a Ghost Recon like the early days of it.
Sledgehammer website.R2D4 said:Are there three already? I don't know what "Sledgehammer games" is.
DaBuddaDa said:Infinity Ward has, over the past year, lost 25-35% of its original members, but the studio is still running and rebuilding.
gundamzeta209 said:I can't believe what i'm reading here in this thread. You are all acting like a some slacked jawed hipsters. Does something's popularity ruin your day?
I think I know who's complaining. It's the weabos. they're Mad because COD sells and their precious Atlus game doesn't. JRPGs suck and nobody important likes Anime anymore. Sorry to break it to you.
there are a lot of weird people on Neogaf. it can't be that serious. A popular video game is not an Analog to Pop music or popcorn summer films. Video games are a completely different medium of entertainment.
Games need to be fun or they aren't going to sell. Movies can get away with sucking if there's enough hype. A pop star can suck a singing if she looks good. If a game doesn't look fun or it doesn't have an established name, it's not going to sell. I don't care how much marketing or hype is involved. it's not going to sell.
Yeah, all the top people left, I think. What's left are grunts who either didn't get invited to the new cool kids's party in EA, or who were unsure about leaving a safe post in this economy. /conjectureJB1981 said:Wow I actually did not know this. Didn't the best talent leave, though?
Beer Monkey said:How many of those PS3 copies are from people unhappy about the visuals?
Zep said:Rainbow Six is still the better shooter.
acm2000 said:and CeX 2nd hand copies update...
(available online)
x360 - 123
ps3 - 71
wii - 6 :lol
i think this is a good indication of platform split
VAIL said:Wii version is the best version, so of course no one would trade it in, the fact ANYONE is trading it in after it released this week is just mind boggling in itself...